Just another fine example of how religious bigots such as Haw Haw and NoMo pick and choose their arguments based upon their opinion of a particular church.<quoted text>
Pattern matching, no wonder you let it out in these threads as a release from such a boring job.
1) The Catholic church did as you stated for who knows how long, breaking the law in spite of laws against what was being done. And they finally got busted big time. The LDS church in the last century has been about following the laws of the land, not breaking them. So the likely hood this church would do something to cause it's own demise by breaking laws it'd be found guilty of breaking is unlikely.
2) You speak of a couple wires to the genitals? they use to use electroshock therapy to help a person believe they weren't attracted to the same sex! Wires to the nuts would have been an option of relief to having your brain fried I would think.
Next, I don't agree with conversion therapy where aids are used to promote physical/mental pain and anguish. And anyone that's an adult that would subject themselves to such practices should really have their head examined.
See, you're missing an important element to this conversation. What's done to a minor who is sent by parents for conversion therapy is wrong. It's wrong because the parents want the conversion therapy and not necessarily the minor.
But what you're missing is most patients that go to these clinics, they are doing it of their own free will for whatever their reason is. Get it? The adults go because they want to change their sexual orientation for some purpose, rational or irrational.
So you can speak of what's done to minors as being wrong and I agree. But you can't speak for the adults that walk into these clinics and understanding what will take place, willingly subject themselves to that ordeal.
You find them supporting things such as the murder of unborn children in the womb at the behest of adults, or the right of adults to commit assisted suicide over "quality of life" issues, but when the same adult makes a choice to enter into the therapy of his or her choosing, Haw Haw and NoMo suddenly are outraged because they don't agree with the therapy, or the reasons the therapy exist.
The fact is, not everyone believes that homosexuality is a trait people are born with. Obviously, some believe that their homosexuality is a condition, deserving of treatment, and they seek out that treatment.
What business is it of some to deny an individual the treatment they choose?
Well, I can easily answer that: Those predisposed to "leftist" thinking must necessarily make choices for others based upon their own limited world view. They cannot allow people the liberty to make their own decisions when those decisions don't "fit in". And when they can falsely pin those decisions upon some organization they already have a beef with, all the better.
I find it humorous that both Haw Haw's and NoMo's behavior on this forum seems to border upon obsession, itself a treatable condition.