Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

There are 32001 comments on the CNN story from Oct 12, 2011, titled Who says Mormons aren't Christians?. In it, CNN reports that:

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“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#13254 Aug 12, 2012
No Surprise wrote:
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Noooo, the truth of you is quite sad really.
You're filled with thoughts of disgusting, filthy, cussing, derogatory things that you'll fill these threads with on purpose.
Says a man who justifies his sick God screwing his daughter.
You're a shame and an embarrassment to anyone that's a real Christian and speaks as one.
I'm sure there are some Mormons who could say the same about you.
Neither do you have any truths concerning Jesus. Your truths come from a different source, that's why you feel so righteous and inspired to think and speak the filth you do and think it's of God that you say those things.
I views of Jesus and his gospel comes from real scripture, unlike yours. Your faith is the source of my filth, and forces me to speak the truth about the perversion that is called Mormonism. If my language is filthy, it is because your leaders and teachings are filthy. It would be a sin on my part to say otherwise.
You have no more of an idea of what truth is concerning God then NuMu has an idea of what it means to be nice to people.
My faith is actually based on what Jesus taught, and doesn't come from the imagination of a sex pervert. God never screwed his daughter, and he certainly didn't threaten to kill Smith if he didn't marry other men's wives or screw teenagers. Those are the claims of a sex pervert wanting to justify his sickness. But you keep putting the hope of your salvation in that pig.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#13255 Aug 12, 2012
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
see, you're not understanding the difference between my God and your god.
Your god is predicated upon your feelings and emotions and logic. You have declared how he thinks and feels and how he doesn't think and feel. You have assigned your god with mortal limitations because you have stated, he thinks as you think.
My God on the other hand, he is his own master and answers to no one. He is the creator of all, therefore he can destroy what he created but not be judged according to the laws he made for us. His ways are not our ways it does state because he is The God and Father of all. He creates and he destroys at his will. That is the right of a creator and no law judges him that he gave that judges us.
Understand? My God is a product unto himself. Your god is a product of your thinking and emotions, thus you make your god what you expect him to be. That's our difference :)
Ur god rapes his own children and that's just fine with u....shows just how much that cult of urs taught u how to regard women, doesn't it? Ur Jesus is the product of incest. Ur god sees women as chattel.why any woman in her right mind would want to be Mormon is beyond me..

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#13256 Aug 12, 2012
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Spirits don't have penises. The only ones helping themselves to teens girls are Mormon prophets. Yet that doesn't bother you.
You're a fricking clown. You better do some real reseach into the marrying age of jewish girls 2000 years ago. You better do some research into Mary's age when she became Joseph's wife.
Your preoccupation with making slanderous remarks of older men and younger girls, pin pointing some and ignoring others doing the same is quite disturbing. Do you know that?
And spirits don't have flesh? Then explain to us all how two angels(messengers) and the Lord God when visiting Abraham, came with bodies, clothed as Abraham, then ate and drank with him before his tent? They could have did it with voices if they really have no substance. The Lord could have put abraham to sleep and spoke to him by voice. The fact that you wish others to belive that beings with no substance, would rather appear in bodies of flesh to communicate then to just speak as a voice makes no sense really. Get it?

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#13257 Aug 12, 2012
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Says the man who thinks a girl can get boned and still be a virgin. They saw Jesus. If you wasn't so hard put to defend your filthy faith, you could see the truth.
<quoted text>
You may have no truth, and that I agree with. And you have just demonstrated you have never had the spirit. Which would explain your logic, or lack of. No wonder you don't get it.
See, here's somemore of your out right lying. Don't you ever tire of being such a self perpetuating liar at times eh? I never said Mary was a virgin after having intercourse with God. I never said any such thing. You're such a self deluded liar and that is so sad.
Your self deluded view of what a Christian is, is to have the filthiest, most derogatory, degenerative cussing vocabulary that you think is possible to have within yourself. That is how you think your god teaches you to be and speak and you are sadly correct, that "your god" wants you to remain as you speak :)

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#13258 Aug 12, 2012
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Says a man who justifies his sick God screwing his daughter.
<quoted text>
I'm sure there are some Mormons who could say the same about you.
<quoted text>
I views of Jesus and his gospel comes from real scripture, unlike yours. Your faith is the source of my filth, and forces me to speak the truth about the perversion that is called Mormonism. If my language is filthy, it is because your leaders and teachings are filthy. It would be a sin on my part to say otherwise.
<quoted text>
My faith is actually based on what Jesus taught, and doesn't come from the imagination of a sex pervert. God never screwed his daughter, and he certainly didn't threaten to kill Smith if he didn't marry other men's wives or screw teenagers. Those are the claims of a sex pervert wanting to justify his sickness. But you keep putting the hope of your salvation in that pig.
I said no such thing.
I am not a Mormon so they would have no comment.
The gospel you view isn't of Jesus. Jesus didn't teach to resort to the filthy, dark, demented, perverted speech you use day in and day out here.
Do you know that you and NuMu are the only two in these threads that obsess to a dark perverted degree about older men having sex with young girls? Do you know that? Do you know that you and NuMu give all the appearences of liking to speak of such a sordid topic? That it's actually taken on a perverse tone from you both?
And what's worse is you both obviously enjoy speaking about the topic in the crudest, filthist, most foul thought of language you can think of to discuss it in. Did you know that of yourself and NuMu?
HOWMANY IQPTs HAVEYOULOST

Los Angeles, CA

#13259 Aug 12, 2012
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Shite for brains, this one.
Within hours of being ridiculed to hilarity and mirth all around this H.I.C.K's writing the above:

WHAT YOU HAVE DONE, H.I.C.K, is TRY to CLAIM that THE GOD of the N.A.T.I.O.N. of I.S.R.A.E.L.

IS not
WAS not
CAN not

BE a MAN. You ***F.A.L.S.E.L.Y. C.L.A.I.M.E.D***

that ***S.E.E.I.N.G.*** GOD is N.O.T. P.O.S.S.I.B.L.E BECAUSE GOD

HAS NO BODY or HUMAN FORM:

when the V.E.R.Y. D.E.F.I.N.I.T.I.O.N. of M.A.N.K.I.N.D.

is he ***L.O.O.K.S. LIKE G.O.D.***

And SOMEBODY PHYSICALLY WRESTLED with JACOB the whole night HAD a BODY: because

J.E.S.U.S. C.H.R.I.S.T.

hadn't COME to EARTH and RECEIVED a BODY yet.
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From some Jewish site remarking on the HEBREW ORIGINAL:
"The Hebrew word for angel (malakh) is actually not used in the story. The adversary re-names Jacob as "Israel," which is a play upon the word meaning "struggled with Elohim," and Jacob names the place of the struggle Peni-el, "meaning 'I have seen Elohim face-to-face and I came out alive.' "

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You SH*T-F*R-BR**NS ILLITERATE DROPOUT H.I.C.K.

"Uh... UH.. METYPHOR!!!!"

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"2 And he rose up that night, and took his two wives, and his two womenservants, and his eleven sons, and passed over the ford Jabbok.

23 And he took them, and sent them over the brook, and sent over that he had.

24 And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled ***A MAN*** with him until the breaking of the day.

25 And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, HE TOUCHED the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob's thigh was out of joint, as HE WRESTLED with HIM.

26 And HE SAID, Let me go, for the day breaketh. And he said, I will not let thee go, except thou bless me.

27 And HE SAID unto him, What is thy name? And he said, Jacob.

28 And HE SAID, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.

29 And Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there.

30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel:***for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.***

31 And as he passed over Penuel the sun rose upon him, and he halted upon his thigh.

32 Therefore the children of Israel eat not of the sinew which shrank, which is upon the hollow of the thigh, unto this day: because he touched the hollow of Jacob’s thigh in the sinew that shrank."
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You ignorant GRUB-EATING HICK, the thrones JOHN saw in REVELATION were the T.H.R.O.N.E.S.

of the F.A.T.H.E.R. and of J.E.S.U.S. C.H.R.I.S.T.

Your
I.G.N.O.R.A.N.T,
DESPERATE,

C.R.A.W.F.I.S.H.I.N.G,

MOLESTER-SHILL
WHORE-BABBLE

reveals you: UTTERLY DEGENERATE of MIND, the BLASPHEMING MOLESTER and APOSTATE.

Denying the ENTIRE PASSAGE where GOD NAMED JACOB ISRAEL, even EXISTS in the scriptures

AT ALL.
HOWMANY IQPTs HAVEYOULOST

Los Angeles, CA

#13260 Aug 12, 2012
Wisdom

Russellville, KY

#13261 Aug 12, 2012
piratefighting wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Dum without the B
Have you even read the Bible or the Book of Mormon?
There is ONE Christian God as far as I know. Apparently you are not aware of this along with your buddies.
You guys need to take some time off... go relax and read some...
then COME BCK EDUCATED!
Yes, but there is only one way to salvation. Your way is not the way. Working your way doing good to become a God is not what my God is about. Your 3 heavens is not of my God.
HOWMANY IQPTs HAVEYOULOST

Los Angeles, CA

#13262 Aug 12, 2012
Brain dead apostates vomit what they've read most recently and believe it's wisdom.

Hilarity all round continues with this:

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/TA24QKQVI...

and this:

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/TA24QKQVI...

which last one says this:

Indeed YOU ADMIT YOURSELF:

****YOU DON'T PRAY****

****to the *M*A*N* who NAMED JACOB, ISRAEL****

YOU pray to ANOTHER 'god'

ONE who CAN NOT WRESTLE with JACOB

*THEREFORE YOU DO NOT PRAY to the GOD of ISRAEL*

*B.Y. D.E.F.I.N.I.T.I.O.N.*
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Know what's hilarious? Not two chapters later, the Lord is talking to the man Jacob, who actually assaulted God, who had a physical body: and wrestled with him all night trying to hold him so he wouldn't leave him until he, God, promised, he wouldn't let his brother Esau kill him over a family squabble.

The God with whom he wrestled and whom he was named after: Elohim - REMINDED the man Israel that it WAS HE who WRESTLED with JACOB, that NIGHT.

M.A.S.S.I.V.E. SELF OWNING by the ILLITERATE H.I.C.K. MOLEST-A-MUTTS from the HOMOSEXUAL CLERGY field of the whores of Babylon.
Wisdom

Russellville, KY

#13263 Aug 12, 2012
Joe vs. Muhammed:
1.followers of both prophets claim these scriptures are miracles since their authors were the most simple and uneducated of men.
2.Both prophets claim of having angel visitations, and of receiving divine revelation to restore pure religion to the earth again.
3.Both prophets created new scripture which borrowed heavily from the Bible, but with a substantially new “spin.”
4.· As a part of their new scriptural “spin,” both prophets saw themselves as prophesied in scripture, and both saw themselves as a continuation of a long line of Biblical prophets. Mohammed saw himself as a continuation of the ministry of Moses and Jesus. Joseph Smith saw himself as a successor to Enoch, Melchizedek, Joseph and Moses. Joseph Smith actually wrote himself into his own version of the Bible—by name.
5. Both prophets held up their own scripture as superior to the Bible. Mohammed claimed that the Koran was a perfect copy of the original which was in heaven.
6. Both prophets held up their own scripture as superior to the Bible. Mohammed claimed that the Koran was a perfect copy of the original which was in heaven.
7. Both ultimately set up their own towns as model societies.
8. Immediately after the death of Muhammad and Smith, a fight broke out from among the "faithful converts" as to who would succeed Muhammad and Smith. Both groups were plunged into irreparable division that has endured ever since. Islam and Mormonism both have squabbles among themselves as to who is the one true splinter group of their prophet!
.
I just wish when God sends his Angel to give all these "prophets" his new and EXACT word as it's found in heaven he would make it the same Exact word of God for each of them. huh......
Because one of these Religions is wrong. Or could it be both were false prophets as the Bible talks so much about?
HOWMANY IQPTs HAVEYOULOST

Los Angeles, CA

#13264 Aug 12, 2012
Wisdom wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, but there is only one way to salvation. Your way is not the way. Working your way doing good to become a God is not what my God is about. Your 3 heavens is not of my God.
OK THEN EXPLAIN why,

YOU HAVE 50% DIVORCE
YOU HAVE 50% of your WOMEN RAPED/MOLESTED
YOU HAVE 50% of your MEN ADMITTING to ADULTERY on YOUR WIFE
YOU HAVE 50% of your WOMEN on HARD PHARMACEUTICALS
YOU HAVE 30% of your *M.E.N. M.O.L.E.S.T.E.D: MANY by YOUR CLERGY*

YOU HAVE O.N.E. in F.I.V.E. of your Y.O.U.N.G. A.D.U.L.T.S.

H.A.S. VENEREAL DISEASE.

EXPLAIN why you DON'T OBEY a SABBATH DAY AMONG your PEOPLE
EXPLAIN why you DON'T ALLOW your CHILDREN to PRAY in PUBLIC
EXPLAIN why you DON'T ALLOW your SELVES to PRAY in PUBLIC MOSTLY
EXPLAIN why you DON'T ALLOW the GOD of the JEWS on YOUR MONUMENTS.

When you explain that, we'll move on to why you have clergy who won't marry, won't have kids, but molest thousands, and why you won't even make it illegal for them.

THAT is a CREDIBILITY PROBLEM you WHORES of BABYLON HAVE:

EVERYTHING YOU TOUCH GOES INSANE
or
CATCHES V.D.
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HOWMANY IQPTs HAVEYOULOST

Los Angeles, CA

#13266 Aug 12, 2012
Wisdom wrote:
Joe vs. Muhammed:
Joseph Smith can't be a prophet because if I write whatever I can make fit, it'll make all of us Americans not be WHORES like JOE SMITH SAID WE WOULD BECOME,

and it'll make that EXPLOSION of LIGHT and TRUTH COMING INTO THE EARTH DISAPPEAR, that JOE SMITH SAID the LORD TOLD HIM, was ABOUT to HAPPEN,

and, MY SOCIETIES' NUMBERS WON'T BE SO SHAMEFUL I DON'T EVEN D.A.R.E.
M.E.N.T.I.O.N.
U.S.
You still can't do anything about the fact that to YOU,

EVEN MOST of that SLIVER of a BIBLE - not even accepting JESUS CHRIST'S OWN SCRIPTURES for STUDY-

is UTTERLY UNINTERPRETABLE by YOU.

ENTIRE BOOKS of the BIBLE: YOU HAVE NO IDEA what any of those PROPHECIES MEANS, to YOU it is MUD.

YOU HICKS can't EVEN DECIDE whether ELOHIM the MAN who WRESTLED with JACOB
is a M.A.N.
and HAS a BODY.

Ignorant grub-eating, syllable adding, sister-dating, banjo picking
H.I.L.L.B.I.L.L.Y.
HOWMANY IQPTs HAVEYOULOST

Los Angeles, CA

#13267 Aug 12, 2012
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Says a man who justifies his sick God screwing his daughter.
<quoted text>
WHAT'S it LIKE to NOT be ABLE to BACK DOWN from a CHARGE LEVIED by your PRIESTHOOD

BEFORE the TECHNICAL PROCEDURES for INSEMINATION without INTERCOURSE were KNOWN to BE TRUE and ABLE to be DONE?

Because WE SAID FROM THE BEGINNING: the ZYGOTE PLACED IN MARY was of the MALE
SEXUAL
GENDER
and she REMAINED a VIRGIN
while becoming
P.R.E.G.N.A.N.T.
with the NATURAL OFFSPRING of the GOD who IMPREGNATED HER.

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You BANJO PICKING MOLESTERS jumped on that like it was a HOT BISCUIT:
only to have the Mormon Authorities stop JUST SHORT of the
F.I.L.T.H. YOU WERE ESPOUSING as the

*O*N*L*Y**P*O*S*S*I*B*L*E*

W.A.Y.

and simply POINT to the FACT we DO these PREGNANCIES, E.V.E.R.Y. DAY,

and leave you standing there with your HOMOSEXUAL PRIESTLY DRESS on and a STUPIFIED LOOK on your SHIRTFRONT DROOLING FACE?

What's it like to be W.R.O.N.G. about EVEN whether GOD is a MAN.

What's it LIKE to be W.R.O.N.G. about EVEN whether GOD has a BODY.

It's like FORGETTING JESUS CHRIST SAID 'BLESSED are the... for THEY shall SEE GOD'

LoL.
Ignorant H.I.C.K.S.
HOWMANY IQPTs HAVEYOULOST

Los Angeles, CA

#13268 Aug 12, 2012
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
You're a fricking clown. You better do some real reseach into the marrying age of jewish girls 2000 years ago. You better do some research into Mary's age when she became Joseph's wife.
Your preoccupation with making slanderous remarks of older men and younger girls, pin pointing some and ignoring others doing the same is quite disturbing. Do you know that?
And spirits don't have flesh? Then explain to us all how two angels(messengers) and the Lord God when visiting Abraham, came with bodies, clothed as Abraham, then ate and drank with him before his tent? They could have did it with voices if they really have no substance. The Lord could have put abraham to sleep and spoke to him by voice. The fact that you wish others to belive that beings with no substance, would rather appear in bodies of flesh to communicate then to just speak as a voice makes no sense really. Get it?
Pure OWNAGE of the 'God has no substance' snake-handlers at church.

How a man could WRESTLE with ANOTHER *MAN* as STATED REPEATEDLY -
THEN HAVE that MAN

IDENTIFY HIMSELF as the GOD who is SPEAKING - LATER -

in the
***PIVOTAL MOMENT OF THE EXISTENCE of the NATION of ISRAEL***

***when the N.A.M.E. I.S.R.A.E.L. was F.O.R.G.E.D.***

-then come in here SCREAMING and RAILING and ON and ON; about how THERE is NO MAN named GOD
THERE is NO MAN named GOD with a BODY

it's disturbed thought. It's mental illness and it's what leads them to get into those churches and molest like maniacs.

If the things they think about led to moral clarity why are they frenetically taking down every mention of God from the places they govern?

If the things they think about led to moral clarity why are they constantly being revealed as having molested another dozen children? HOMOSEXUALLY MOLESTING THEM.

If the things they think about led to moral clarity why are even their SCHOOL TEACHERS child molesting animals?

These aren't fundie marriages 'till death do they part like Amish or Quaker or L.D.S. fundies - they have at least the guidelines of ancient Israelite theocratic/legal systems, which had to compete in their, ORIGINAL time, with the civilizational cultures around them:

the MOLESTINGS they do are pure and simple the RAVINGS of the UTTERLY UNPREPARED CHILD ADULT which has had NO sociological discipline at ALL.

It's the RIVER of FILTH seen by Nephi, it's the TIME when ALL THINGS seem to them to be in commotion, and they have come unglued like a herd of pigs with evil spirits cast into them: PLUNGING into SUICIDAL behavior, SQUEALING the WHOLE WAY.

It's really funny from the standpoint of the Mormons, and Amish, Quaker fundie types, the real devout ascetic arms of Christianity wherever these CROSS DRESSING QUEENS haven't MOLESTED EVERTHING in SIGHT.

Because when the Lord makes a bunch of degenerates go insane, you know it's coming onto the leading edge of the end, of their hegemony.

They're as possessed by the spirit to MOLEST as ANY GROUP of PEOPLE in the HISTORY of MANKIND:

they can't stop DIVORCING
they can't stop MOLESTING
they can't stop COMMITTING ADULTERY
they can't stop STEALING

they can't stop MONEY GRUBBING with that 24/7/365 MONEY LUNGE,
they can't stop SCAMMING trying to STEAL EACH OTHER'S WEALTH through passage of LAWS meant to SEIZE other people's WEALTH:

it's all they do: M.O.L.E.S.T. and dream
of ROAMING the EARTH,
MARUAUDING like LIONS.

We'll see how it shakes out.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#13269 Aug 12, 2012
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
You're a fricking clown. You better do some real reseach into the marrying age of jewish girls 2000 years ago. You better do some research into Mary's age when she became Joseph's wife.
Your preoccupation with making slanderous remarks of older men and younger girls, pin pointing some and ignoring others doing the same is quite disturbing. Do you know that?
And spirits don't have flesh? Then explain to us all how two angels(messengers) and the Lord God when visiting Abraham, came with bodies, clothed as Abraham, then ate and drank with him before his tent? They could have did it with voices if they really have no substance. The Lord could have put abraham to sleep and spoke to him by voice. The fact that you wish others to belive that beings with no substance, would rather appear in bodies of flesh to communicate then to just speak as a voice makes no sense really. Get it?
Angels are not the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit can only dwell in you because it doesn't have flesh.Bait and switching does not make the LDS church true. It only makes you look desperate.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#13270 Aug 12, 2012
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
I said no such thing.
You've only been defending the teaching, but you didn't say it. Back being a lying a$$ again, playing ignorant words games.
I am not a Mormon so they would have no comment.
You attend the LDS church, but you're not Mormon. If you're not Mormon, you sure do a good impersonation of one. Especially with the running to the Bishop to tattle like a little b!tch on some poor kid that hasn't done a damn think to you. Try being honest for once in you damn life. Try to show you have a pair of balls, some dignity, some intestinal fortitude.
The gospel you view isn't of Jesus. Jesus didn't teach to resort to the filthy, dark, demented, perverted speech you use day in and day out here.
It doesn't teach you to be the biggest lying jerk you can be either. As long as you keep jacking off around here, I'll treat you like a jack off. But you definition of being Christian is to be the sneakiest SOB you can be.
Do you know that you and NuMu are the only two in these threads that obsess to a dark perverted degree about older men having sex with young girls? Do you know that? Do you know that you and NuMu give all the appearences of liking to speak of such a sordid topic? That it's actually taken on a perverse tone from you both?
And what's worse is you both obviously enjoy speaking about the topic in the crudest, filthist, most foul thought of language you can think of to discuss it in. Did you know that of yourself and NuMu?
That is because the pigs to commit these acts only deserve that kind of language. But, being holy men to you, you justify old men fu*king young girls. Maybe it's because you wish you were one of them. Maybe that teen you turned in made you jealous because he was the friend of some teen girl you had your eye on. That I could believe the way you defend perverts.

You're one of the most dishonest a$$holes I've ever met, plain and simple, Mormon or not. Your postings reflect a man who knows the LDS is just one big pile of crap, and you just don't care.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#13271 Aug 12, 2012
Wisdom wrote:
Joe vs. Muhammed:
1.followers of both prophets claim these scriptures are miracles since their authors were the most simple and uneducated of men.
2.Both prophets claim of having angel visitations, and of receiving divine revelation to restore pure religion to the earth again.
3.Both prophets created new scripture which borrowed heavily from the Bible, but with a substantially new “spin.”
4.· As a part of their new scriptural “spin,” both prophets saw themselves as prophesied in scripture, and both saw themselves as a continuation of a long line of Biblical prophets. Mohammed saw himself as a continuation of the ministry of Moses and Jesus. Joseph Smith saw himself as a successor to Enoch, Melchizedek, Joseph and Moses. Joseph Smith actually wrote himself into his own version of the Bible—by name.
5. Both prophets held up their own scripture as superior to the Bible. Mohammed claimed that the Koran was a perfect copy of the original which was in heaven.
6. Both prophets held up their own scripture as superior to the Bible. Mohammed claimed that the Koran was a perfect copy of the original which was in heaven.
7. Both ultimately set up their own towns as model societies.
8. Immediately after the death of Muhammad and Smith, a fight broke out from among the "faithful converts" as to who would succeed Muhammad and Smith. Both groups were plunged into irreparable division that has endured ever since. Islam and Mormonism both have squabbles among themselves as to who is the one true splinter group of their prophet!
.
I just wish when God sends his Angel to give all these "prophets" his new and EXACT word as it's found in heaven he would make it the same Exact word of God for each of them. huh......
Because one of these Religions is wrong. Or could it be both were false prophets as the Bible talks so much about?
Don't forget they both practiced polygamy and they both started screwing children also.
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HOWMANY IQPTs HAVEYOULOST

Los Angeles, CA

#13273 Aug 12, 2012
There should be a thread called,'God Has No Substance: Discuss.'

Anyway sorry for interrupting your conversation I just think it past not mentioning the
OBVIOUS
MENTAL ILLNESS
of ANYONE in THIS DAY AND AGE not KNOWING the OLD TESTAMEN STATES in the NARRATIVE of the EVENTS leading to the BIRTH of the ISRAELITE NATION of the time.

These people should really review all the MYRIAD literature reflecting the nature of the birth of their rat religion and bring it more into line with the teachings of 4500 years or whatever of Israelite national history as having to do with their religions, because

WHEN THEY HAVE CLERGY COMING IN SCREAMING GOD is NOT a MAN and HAS no BODY, you know, it's over: when the very FORGING of the NATION whose GOD they TOOK
TOOK
TOOK
UNTO them

IS a STORY about a MAN: with a BODY: who was GRABBED by the NATION'S FOUNDER and TOLD HE COULDN'T LEAVE until he BLESSED HIM that his BROTHER not KILL him for SEEKING BLESSINGS and OUTSMARTING HIM in DOING SO.

That M.A.N. later CONFESSING HE WAS THE G.O.D. SPEAKING (at the later time) with WHOM that MAN

wrestled.

WHAT it SHOWS is that ONLY a MENTALLY CHALLENGED PERSON would ASSOCIATE with

such C.L.E.A.R.L.Y. D.E.L.U.D.E.D. DOCTRINE.

The FATHER of the ISRAELITE NATION W.R.E.S.T.L.E.D. PHYSICALLY with a M.A.N. who appeared and who LATER CONFESSED it was HE who was the GOD who was SPEAKING.

He CHANGED the NAME of the man Jacob, son of Isaac, son of Abram,

to ISRAEL.

Yet T.H.E.S.E. HICKS when CONFRONTED with the NEWS that H.E.B.R.E.W. O.R.I.G.I.N.A.L. ETYMOLOGY of
ISRAEL
&
PENEAL

are DERIVATIVE of THE NAME of the FATHER: E.L.O.H.I.M.

their HOWL goes up that it CAN'T, CAN'T, BE TRUE! NO! NO!

Yes, you MOUTH BREATHING, DOCTRINE-FROM-THE-MIDDLE-AGES
H.I.C.K.S,
IT
IS
TRUE.

And there's not ONE THING you're going to DO about it except DESTROY
EVERY
BIBLE

Mentally ill Satanically possessed people who cling to doctrines devised in the middle ages is who they are.

Same ones who inherited their doctrine from homosexual clergy, are in here saying they want homosexual clergy again.

AND DENYING the GOD who NAMED the FOUNDER of the Israelite NATION,

"Israel"

was a M.A.N.-stated C.L.E.A.R.L.Y
who PHYSICALLY, the man Israel was too strong to get away from so he TOUCHED his leg and SHRIVELED his LEG.

While WRESTLING.
In the BODY.

It's purely and simply, AND OBVIOUSLY: the
MIDDLE AGES DOCTRINE about how GOD is TOO HOLY to BE a MAN
so there's NO NEED FOR MARRIAGE even though God COMMANDS it
Set up by GREEK
HOMOSEXUAL CLERGY as they TOOK OVER what was LEFT of CHRISTIANITY at the time.

Paul SAID that the last days would NOT COME BUT there BE a FALLING AWAY first:

The REMNANTS of that are in here SWEARING AT US that GOD
is NOT the MAN
with a BODY who WRESTLED with JACOB later ISRAEL

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#13274 Aug 12, 2012
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Angels are not the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit can only dwell in you because it doesn't have flesh.Bait and switching does not make the LDS church true. It only makes you look desperate.
Buzzzzzzzzz...wrong answer.
From the trinity doctrine, God is one but, with three distinct persons. Read the trinity doctrine, absorb it, understand it's complications in matters as this one.
The Holy Spirit/Ghost can take on any form it wants because it is God. It can be anything it wants to be because it is God. The same for God and the same for Jesus. According to the trinity doctrine, none of those three persons have limitations of any kind. They are manifestations of each other if need be. Jesus can be God the Father or the Holy Spirit or himself. God the Father can be the Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ and himself. The Holy Spirit can be God the Father and Jesus Christ and himself.
Those three are one and the same. That is trinity doctrine. Learn the theory your going to support is my urging to you :)
You want to castigate Mormon teachings but many of their teachings come from Bible sources. To show their wrong in your judgement, you prove errors in the Bible with the same judgement.
You say the Holy Spirit can only dwell in us because it's not flesh. Well jesus was flesh and that makes the Spirit flesh and God the Father flesh while being spirit all at once. The spirit of Christ lives in us to the NT teaches but Jesus was flesh.
I keep terlling you, do a little reseach before you speak, it gives you more credibility :)
HOWMANY IQPTs HAVEYOULOST

Los Angeles, CA

#13275 Aug 12, 2012
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Angels are not the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit can only dwell in you because it doesn't have flesh.Bait and switching does not make the LDS church true. It only makes you look desperate.
THAT'LL BE Y.O.U. CHANGING the SUBJECT to your favorite subject sex, HomoClown.

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