Ok. So If I harassed and called your wife or kids names and threaten you and you hit me CAN I KILL YOU THEN LEGALLY????????
So I have to wait until someone does hurt me to defend myself?????
no, dimbulb, not necessarily... if I am waving or otherwise displaying a weapon(knife or gun or mace!) AND threatening you to the POINT that you fear for your Life or limb or some family members L or l or even a nobody, then you can take pre-emptive action.
we are supposed to meet force with force, but, nowadays, oftimes waiting for the Trayvons of this world to damn-near kill you, IT IS TOO LATE.
the old advice was to cut and RUN. SYG and other LIBERAL self-defense laws give all people the right to NOT be forced to cut and run and give the streets, parking lots, alleys, malls, ATM kiosks, whatever, over to the thugs/etc...
why should GOOD people always be expected to suffer unto Death, or near Death, before they REACT in a pro-active manner?
one day, after being out on your little bass boat and fishing, you putt-putt into the darkened dock to tie-up and call it a day. some goof steps out of nowhere, maybe with his hand in his pocket, maybe with a pistol/knife in his hand, or maybe he just tells you he is armed. and then he says 'give me your money and watch and ring... OR ELSE'.
do you, must you assume he is NOT serious? that his hidden hand is NOT on a weapon? he's lying about having a weapon?
or, because he is doing what he is, when you reach towards your back pocket to get your wallet, instead you pull YOUR .38 snub-nose and put two in HIS center-of-mass, is that wrong?
what if he only steps up to you, you two get into a tussel, he starts doing damage to your HEAD(and brain), says something like 'now you are gonna die'... what do you do? what are you SUPPOSED to think AT THAT TIME?
gee, this guy is really pissed... but I'm ok?????
gee, that other guy just left me alone, getting my head beaten I DON'T KNOW HOW BADLY, maybe I better pull MY gun while I can???
at WHAT point does TM assume ANY responsiblity for HIS actions?
if TM had only sucker punched GZ and then fled, what then?
if TM had blocked a punch and then returned one or two and then STOPPED, what then???
my question to all TM supporters is: what if TM had stayed HIDDEN and never let GZ know he was anywhere near, what would have happened?
therefore, why DID TM approach GZ IN THE FIRST PLACE?
dude, it was not to sell him a magazine subscription, WAS IT?
even in THIS tragedy, try applying a little common sense, okay?
it should have never happned, but TM had the LAST say in how it ended, didn't he? really? he was out of sight and OUT OF DANGER until HE ACTED.
good lord, man, did TM HAVE to follow GZ all the way back to his SUV and then pull him out of it before you'll see the ERROR or TM's actions!?!