Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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MikeF wrote:
ARGH!
Sorry, perhaps it would have been better if you did not know.

Now we need a 3 person round robin discussion by Jimbo, Brenda, and the dark lord. So much insanity in one location could cause a meltdown of the server.
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Among other things, it proved that some people will ignore the value of scientific research is it dares to threaten their religious beliefs.
The Miller-Urey experiment was an abject failure...why would it threaten anyone's religious beliefs. It proved absolutely nothing.
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What the hell are you talking about? A pope was NEVER considered to be a god. Why don't you get you head out of your ass and actually learn something.
Have Popes Really Claimed to be God?

http://www.geoffhorton.com/PapalClaims.html

Quotations (more properly, alleged quotations for the most part, as we'll see later) showing that popes have claimed to be God or equal to God are a staple of anti-Catholic polemics. I recently ran across such a list, and the results of my investigations are below. I suspect the list as I got it is rather old, as its most recent entry dates only to the late 19th Century. The continuing growth of materials available on the Internet has made it possible to shed some light on the facts behind these “quotations”.

The List
1. Pope Innocent III (1198-1216) wrote:“We may according to the fullness of our power, dispose of the law and dispense above the law. Those whom the Pope of Rome doth separate, it is not a man that separates them but God. For the Pope holdeth place on earth, not simply of a man but of the true God.”(1 Book of Gregory 9 Decret. c. 3)
2. The Lateran Council addressing Pope Julius II in an oration delivered by Marcellus said:“Take care that we lose not that salvation, that life and breath which thou hast given us, for thou art our shepherd, thou art our physician, thou art our governor, thou art our husbandman, thou art finally another God on earth.”(Council Edition. Colm. Agrip. 1618)
3. Pope Nicholas said of himself:“I am in all and above all, so that God Himself and I, the vicar of God, hath both one consistory, and I am able to do almost all that God can do... wherefore, if those things that I do be said not to be done of man, but of God, what do you make of me but God? Again, if prelates of the Church be called of Constantine for gods, I then being above all prelates, seem by this reason to be above all gods. Wherefore, no marvel, if it be in my power to dispense with all things, yea with the precepts of Christ.”(Decret. par. Distinct 96 ch. 7 edit. Lugo 1661)
4. The RC New York catechism states:“The Pope takes the place of Jesus Christ on earth... by divine right the Pope has supreme and full power in faith, in morals over each and every pastor and his flock. He is the true vicar, the head of the entire church, the father and teacher of all Christians. He is the infallible ruler, the founder of dogmas, the author of and the judge of councils; the universal ruler of truth, the arbiter of the world, the supreme judge of heaven and earth, the judge of all, being judged by no one, God himself on earth.”
5. The title “Lord God the Pope”- these words appeared in the Canon Law of Rome.“To believe that our Lord God the Pope has not the power to decree as he is decreed, is to be deemed heretical.”(The Gloss extravagances of Pope John XXII Cum. Inter, tit XIV Ad Callem Sexti Decretalium, Paris, 1685)

Father A. Pereira acknowledged:“It is quite certain that Popes have never disapproved or rejected this title “Lord God the Pope” for the passage in the gloss referred to appears in the edition of the Canon Law published in Rome by Gregory XIII.”
6. Pope Nicholas I declared that “the appellation of God had been confirmed by Constantine on the Pope, who being God, cannot be judged by man.”(Labb IX Dist.: 96 Can 7 Satis Evidentur Decret Gratian Primer Para)
7. Speaking [in] the name of the Pope (a rhetorical device) Cardinal Manning said:“I acknowledge no civil superior, I am the subject of no prince, and I claim more than this, I claim to be the supreme judge on earth and director of the consciences of men, I am the last supreme judge of what is right and wrong.”(Sermon in the Pro Cathedral, Kensington, Tablet Oct 9, 1864)
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Because god appoint you the judge of who is a Christian and who isn't. STFU.
His Word told me to test peoples works (fruits) to be able to tell WHO they worship.

There are only two choices: God or satan
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No? So who's going to pay for those big ass churches?
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/med...
The true Church is the sum of its members...it is not a building.
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His Word told me to test peoples works (fruits) to be able to tell WHO they worship.
There are only two choices: God or satan
If you believe in such nonsense, I suppose so.

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I did not, you are simply trolling.
There is the link where you said it. You misquoted. End of story.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/T9Q...
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They never claimed to be perfect either, that's why they acknowledge needing a savior.

They also never CLAIMED TO "BE" GOD or claim to "FORGIVE SINS" like the Pope does.

It seems the Pope is considered infallible, meaning he thinks he is sinless, right?

So, the pope claims to be perfect like God.

It also seems that the Bible warns of a 'SYSTEM' coming along like that, where a large population will be 'amazed' by this system, even worship this system, and call this system 'infallible' and take their 'mark'.

Oh, but when the Catholic pope and priests get caught with their pants down, they cover it up with their 'POLITICAL' power.

Remember, they have WORLD WIDE political power, just as the Bible says will happen.

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<quoted text>The Miller-Urey experiment was an abject failure...why would it threaten anyone's religious beliefs. It proved absolutely nothing.
Obviously it threatens yours since you keep whining what an 'abject failure' it was when it was anything but.
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<quoted text>Recently. Evolution has never stood up, except with crutches.
Isn't that the truth.

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His Word told me to test peoples works (fruits) to be able to tell WHO they worship.
There are only two choices: God or satan
OK, you can be Satan.

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The true Church is the sum of its members...it is not a building.
Better tell that to your peeps. I don't care.

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They never claimed to be perfect either, that's why they acknowledge needing a savior.
They also never CLAIMED TO "BE" GOD or claim to "FORGIVE SINS" like the Pope does.
It seems the Pope is considered infallible, meaning he thinks he is sinless, right?
So, the pope claims to be perfect like God.
It also seems that the Bible warns of a 'SYSTEM' coming along like that, where a large population will be 'amazed' by this system, even worship this system, and call this system 'infallible' and take their 'mark'.
Oh, but when the Catholic pope and priests get caught with their pants down, they cover it up with their 'POLITICAL' power.
Remember, they have WORLD WIDE political power, just as the Bible says will happen.
I have neither the time nor the inclination to teach you the basics of the RCC but you are incorrect on just about every count.

I'll research your references as I have time.
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<quoted text>Really, since 163 huh? Well, with lies like that, it will always lead your pack. Just not the scientific world. Evolution is like a paraplegic, it needs a wheelchair becomes it can not stand on it's own two feet. In ten yeas, atheist nuts will be calling evolution biology and biology evolution and hoping that we don't notice the change. The only thing that evolutionist have proven is that evolution theory is a transformer, it transforms from one lie to the next.
Actually it takes much more faith to believe such trumped up idea as evolution( which as you stated cannot stand up under any serious scrutiny) than it does believe in God's creation of everything.
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MikeF wrote:
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Among other things, it proved that some people will ignore the value of scientific research is it dares to threaten their religious beliefs.
LOL!

You think evolution threatens our religious beliefs?

You are so wrong and funny. There is nothing you can do to stop God's Word from spreading, don't you know many have already tried .....and failed, miserably.
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I have neither the time nor the inclination to teach you the basics of the RCC but you are incorrect on just about every count.
I'll research your references as I have time.
You don't have to teach me anything.

I've been researching it for years.

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LOL!
You think evolution threatens our religious beliefs?
You are so wrong and funny. There is nothing you can do to stop God's Word from spreading, don't you know many have already tried .....and failed, miserably.
You're right , that would take the removal of your fingers out your ears, and eyelids off your eyes, as well as stop that nah nah nah nah sound you make.
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Isn't that the truth.
No, it is not, as far from the truth as one can get. One might say it is an outright lie.
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You don't have to teach me anything.
I've been researching it for years.
And yet you've learned nothing.
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Mike F, Here is another site

http://www.chick.com/information/religions/ca...

Research with an open mind and pair with scripture.

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