Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 173820 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Since: Jun 13

Nashville, TN

#94072 Jun 26, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry but it appears you are living in your delusion,
as it it were real.
I will try to keep this simple. One of many reasons evolution has been debunked: there is there is no genetic mechanism that creates new genes. But "ape to human evolution" relies on apes and humans having the ability to create new genes with new functions. It cannot happen kids.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#94073 Jun 26, 2013
BiggBBoss wrote:
<quoted text>
It sounds like you are confusing adaptation and evolution. Evolution has been debunked. Adaptation is very real. I would encourage you to read up on the two subjects.
"...has been debunked."

I think we've cleared that up.

And still no answer.

Since: Jun 13

Franklin, KY

#94074 Jun 26, 2013
Sounds like many people do not understand the difference between evolution and adaptation. Evolution has been debunked. One of many reasons evolution has been debunked: there is there is no genetic mechanism that creates new genes. But "ape to human evolution" relies on apes and humans having the ability to create new genes with new functions.

“The Edge”

Since: Dec 10

Of Tomorow

#94075 Jun 26, 2013
BiggBBoss wrote:
<quoted text>
I will try to keep this simple. One of many reasons evolution has been debunked: there is there is no genetic mechanism that creates new genes. But "ape to human evolution" relies on apes and humans having the ability to create new genes with new functions. It cannot happen kids.
Who told you this?
Genes or genetic makeup changes over time, it doesn't make new ones.
But it does make different ones. As far as new functions , genes all have the same function, nothing new about that.

“The Edge”

Since: Dec 10

Of Tomorow

#94076 Jun 26, 2013
BiggBBoss wrote:
<quoted text>
I will try to keep this simple. One of many reasons evolution has been debunked: there is there is no genetic mechanism that creates new genes. But "ape to human evolution" relies on apes and humans having the ability to create new genes with new functions. It cannot happen kids.
I said it doesn't make new ones, but truthfully it does make new ones but they are copied, so they're not new as in brand new,
but in fact new copies.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#94077 Jun 26, 2013
BiggBBoss wrote:
Sounds like many people do not understand the difference between evolution and adaptation. Evolution has been debunked. One of many reasons evolution has been debunked: there is there is no genetic mechanism that creates new genes. But "ape to human evolution" relies on apes and humans having the ability to create new genes with new functions.
I suppose you've never heard of gene duplication.

You keep saying it's been debunked but never provide any references or citations. Can you or are we to assume you're just blowing smoke?

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#94078 Jun 26, 2013
BiggBBoss wrote:
<quoted text>
I will try to keep this simple. One of many reasons evolution has been debunked: there is there is no genetic mechanism that creates new genes. But "ape to human evolution" relies on apes and humans having the ability to create new genes with new functions. It cannot happen kids.
Wrong. There are several different ways that mutations occur in DNA. By definition those are new genes.

And technically we are apes. We have been classified as apes long before Darwin's theory. In fact the person who first realized we were apes was Linnaeus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Linnaeus

Since: Jun 13

Franklin, KY

#94079 Jun 26, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>I said it doesn't make new ones, but truthfully it does make new ones but they are copied, so they're not new as in brand new,
but in fact new copies.
Agreed. No new genes can be created, as evolution requires.

“Up with which, I will not put”

Since: Jul 08

Sao Paulo

#94080 Jun 26, 2013
BiggBBoss wrote:
<quoted text>
Evolution has been debunked...
I has, has it? Care to elaborate a bit more?

Since: Jun 13

Franklin, KY

#94081 Jun 26, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong. There are several different ways that mutations occur in DNA. By definition those are new genes.

And technically we are apes. We have been classified as apes long before Darwin's theory. In fact the person who first realized we were apes was Linnaeus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Linnaeus
Fyi: Wikipedia is a poor source. Iv wouldn't trust it enough to formulate my own opinions.

We are apes? interesting. I can see why people would buy into the MSM on this issue. Something for you to think about: The human Y chromosome has twice as many genes as the Chimpanzee Y chromosome. Humans have at least 78 genes and Chimpanzees have only 37. The Y chromosomes of Chimpanzees and humans are radically different in the arrangement of their genes. What more need I say? Or should I continue?

(See 2010, Nature published a scientific paper entitled "Chimpanzee and human Y chromosomes are remarkably divergent in structure and gene content." Nature, by the way, is the most respected peer reviewed scientific journal for evolutionary genetics.)

“The Edge”

Since: Dec 10

Of Tomorow

#94082 Jun 26, 2013
BiggBBoss wrote:
<quoted text>
Agreed. No new genes can be created, as evolution requires.
As I said it makes copies , but the copies differ slightly.
So they change over time, this is how they can become completely different. This is also very old news and evolution is a fact.
Species change and evolution is real, quit whining about it.
HTS

Englewood, CO

#94083 Jun 26, 2013
MikeF wrote:
<quoted text>
I suppose you've never heard of gene duplication.
You keep saying it's been debunked but never provide any references or citations. Can you or are we to assume you're just blowing smoke?
Gene duplication... Such as Down's syndrome?
Gene duplication does not result in any novel traits.
No references or citations are needed to debunk evolution.
I have personally debunked evolution on this forum repeatedly.
My unanswered challenges are only met with derision against religion.
Falsification of a theory does not require formal concessions by those who are religiously committed to it.
HTS

Englewood, CO

#94084 Jun 26, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong. There are several different ways that mutations occur in DNA. By definition those are new genes.
And technically we are apes. We have been classified as apes long before Darwin's theory. In fact the person who first realized we were apes was Linnaeus.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Linnaeus
The blind parroting of evo-dogma is pointless, SZ.
Simply stating that "we are apes" doesn't make it so.
You should speak for yourself.
I know that your religion requires you to desperately want to be related to apes, but that is your problem.
Before you make such asinine statements, perhaps you should define "ape" and then I will immediately humiliate you.

Since: Jun 13

Franklin, KY

#94085 Jun 26, 2013
HTS wrote:
<quoted text>Gene duplication... Such as Down's syndrome?
Gene duplication does not result in any novel traits.
No references or citations are needed to debunk evolution.
I have personally debunked evolution on this forum repeatedly.
My unanswered challenges are only met with derision against religion.
Falsification of a theory does not require formal concessions by those who are religiously committed to it.
Sad but true. Evolution has become a cult.

“The Edge”

Since: Dec 10

Of Tomorow

#94086 Jun 26, 2013
BiggBBoss wrote:
<quoted text>
Fyi: Wikipedia is a poor source. Iv wouldn't trust it enough to formulate my own opinions.
We are apes? interesting. I can see why people would buy into the MSM on this issue. Something for you to think about: The human Y chromosome has twice as many genes as the Chimpanzee Y chromosome. Humans have at least 78 genes and Chimpanzees have only 37. The Y chromosomes of Chimpanzees and humans are radically different in the arrangement of their genes. What more need I say? Or should I continue?
(See 2010, Nature published a scientific paper entitled "Chimpanzee and human Y chromosomes are remarkably divergent in structure and gene content." Nature, by the way, is the most respected peer reviewed scientific journal for evolutionary genetics.)


Now trolly define the key word here.

"divergent"

Note it say's remarkably divergent.

1. Drawing apart from a common point; diverging.
5. Biology The evolutionary tendency or process by which animals or plants that are descended from a common ancestor evolve into different forms when living under different conditions.

Genetic divergence

Genetic divergence is the process in which two or more populations of an ancestral species accumulate independent genetic changes (mutations) through time, often after the populations have become reproductively isolated for some period of time. In some cases, subpopulations living in ecologically distinct peripheral environments can exhibit genetic divergence from the remainder of a population, especially where the range of a population is very large (see parapatric speciation). The genetic differences among divergent populations can involve silent mutations (that have no effect on the phenotype) or give rise to significant morphological and/or physiological changes.

Genetic divergence will always accompany reproductive isolation, either due to novel adaptations via selection and/or due to genetic drift, and is the principal mechanism underlying speciation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_divergen...

Since: Jun 13

Franklin, KY

#94087 Jun 26, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>As I said it makes copies , but the copies differ slightly.
So they change over time, this is how they can become completely different. This is also very old news and evolution is a fact.
Species change and evolution is real, quit whining about it.
Read the difference between adaptation and evolution. Genes cannot be made new. Look at what happens when genes to differ. It's a disaster.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#94088 Jun 26, 2013
HTS wrote:
<quoted text>
The blind parroting of evo-dogma is pointless, SZ.
Simply stating that "we are apes" doesn't make it so.
You should speak for yourself.
I know that your religion requires you to desperately want to be related to apes, but that is your problem.
Before you make such asinine statements, perhaps you should define "ape" and then I will immediately humiliate you.
Hey tard!

Did you notice the link?

Linnaeus was even one of you and he still recognized that we are apes.

“Up with which, I will not put”

Since: Jul 08

Sao Paulo

#94089 Jun 26, 2013
BiggBBoss wrote:
<quoted text>
Agreed. No new genes can be created, as evolution requires.
Evolution does not require genes to be created, however genes do evolve over time as necessary. Kind of a counter-point to Creation, don't you think?

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#94090 Jun 26, 2013
BiggBBoss wrote:
<quoted text>
Fyi: Wikipedia is a poor source. Iv wouldn't trust it enough to formulate my own opinions.
We are apes? interesting. I can see why people would buy into the MSM on this issue. Something for you to think about: The human Y chromosome has twice as many genes as the Chimpanzee Y chromosome. Humans have at least 78 genes and Chimpanzees have only 37. The Y chromosomes of Chimpanzees and humans are radically different in the arrangement of their genes. What more need I say? Or should I continue?
(See 2010, Nature published a scientific paper entitled "Chimpanzee and human Y chromosomes are remarkably divergent in structure and gene content." Nature, by the way, is the most respected peer reviewed scientific journal for evolutionary genetics.)
Wrong. Wikipedia is an excellent source these days. It has been found to be at least as accurate as the Encyclopedia Britannica. It is not so easily changed by a whim any more. And if someone makes a false entry it is quickly corrected.

Lastly most articles have links that you can follow making it an excellent starting point.

“The Edge”

Since: Dec 10

Of Tomorow

#94091 Jun 26, 2013
BiggBBoss wrote:
<quoted text>
Read the difference between adaptation and evolution. Genes cannot be made new. Look at what happens when genes to differ. It's a disaster.
Why were your new genes too tight? BTW that's spelled jeans.
Yes too tight jeans can be a disaster.

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