Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 209834 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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“Pissing people off since 1949”

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#93959 Jun 25, 2013
JesusMyLord wrote:
<quoted text>Can you explain all of this in your own words, so we can see if you are not simply regurgitated stuff you could not properly chew on the first time.
You mean like you folks do with your bible?

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#93960 Jun 25, 2013
JesusMyLord wrote:
<quoted text>Really, since 163 huh? Well, with lies like that, it will always lead your pack. Just not the scientific world. Evolution is like a paraplegic, it needs a wheelchair becomes it can not stand on it's own two feet. In ten yeas, atheist nuts will be calling evolution biology and biology evolution and hoping that we don't notice the change. The only thing that evolutionist have proven is that evolution theory is a transformer, it transforms from one lie to the next.
I will assume that was a typo or an outright lie but thanks, I was food for a little research…

The pre christian Greeks and Romans had the idea of descent with modification, i.e. an early comprehension of evolution.

Later the medieval theories fostered by christianity was that of spontaneous generation, which stated that living things can appear fully formed from inorganic matter. This deliberately limited concept prevented thinking and speculation about evolution or descent with modification.

In the mid 1700s Carolus Linnaeus, kicked off the modern understanding with his hybridisation experiments on plants. At the same time Darwins grandfather speculated that all life could a have a single common ancestor. A little later Immanuel Kant developed a concept that is relatively close to modern understanding and anticipated Darwinian thinking. Thomas Malthus’s theories of population growth are what inspired both Darwin and Alfred Wallace to independently produce theories of natural selection.

The work of these pioneers fuelled one of the most researched branches of science, research that has now proven without doubt and in several independent ways and beyond any reasonable doubt that evolution happened, happens and can be observed happening now.

Just because you don’t like it, or because it shows that a bunch of bronze age goat herders and escaped slaves did not have much understanding of science is besides the point.

In 10 years godbots will be calling faith, truth and truth, faith and hoping we don’t notice the change, oh wait a moment, that’s already happened.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#93961 Jun 25, 2013
JesusMyLord wrote:
<quoted text>Can you explain all of this in your own words, so we can see if you are not simply regurgitated stuff you could not properly chew on the first time.
ROFL!! This is coming from a guy whose avatar is the stereotypical Euro-Caucasian Jesus. Regurgitate some more church doctrine, Bonzo.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#93962 Jun 25, 2013
JesusMyLord wrote:
<quoted text>Can you explain all of this in your own words, so we can see if you are not simply regurgitated stuff you could not properly chew on the first time.
I did explain the video in my own words a couple of my posts before the one you quoted.

As others have pointed out, nice white Jesus.
HTS

Englewood, CO

#93963 Jun 25, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
<quoted text>
On the contrary, evolution is one of the greatest long distance runners in the scientific world, still leading the pack after 150 years even with religious nuts trying to trip it up for all that time.
What a joke...
Evolution is crashing by the minute.
The collapse of Lamarckism...
The failed junk DNA debacle...
The failed fossil record...
The collapse of genetic determinism...
The proven impossibility to create genetic information through mutations...
The utter lack of even a proposed mechanisms of creating genetic information...let alone absence of any evidence.
The impossibility of abiogenesis...
You are clinging on to a sinking ship...
You'd best follow the rats and jump off.

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#93964 Jun 25, 2013
Hi all. Missed me any?

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#93965 Jun 25, 2013
HTS wrote:
<quoted text>
What a joke...
Evolution is crashing by the minute.
What a maroon! Evolution is stronger every year.
The collapse of Lamarckism...
Lamarckism was never part of evolution idiot. Its collapse means nothing.
The failed junk DNA debacle...
The idea of Junk DNA is extremely healthy. Your misunderstanding of a few articles does not qualify as evidence.
The failed fossil record...
LMFAO!!!

The fossil record can only be explained via the theory of evolution. It is extremely successful. This was a true "How's That for Stupid?" moment.
The collapse of genetic determinism...
Never part of the theory of evolution in the manner that you believe. It has not "collasped".
The proven impossibility to create genetic information through mutations...
Another "How's That for Stupid?" moment! Two in one post!

Idiot, we have observed that sort of event in the laboratory. REPEATEDLY!!
The utter lack of even a proposed mechanisms of creating genetic information...let alone absence of any evidence.
We have a record! That is three "How's That for Stupid?" moments in one post!!

There are several known mechanisms. Simple mutation is only one of them.
The impossibility of abiogenesis...
I would almost count this as four.

You have never given even any evidence that abiogenesis is impossible. That along with many successful experiments shows that once again you are clueless.
You are clinging on to a sinking ship...
You'd best follow the rats and jump off.
Okay, that is definitely another "How's That for Stupid?" moment.

I lost count was that four or five completely idiotic, unsupported, proven wrong, statements in one post?
HTS

Englewood, CO

#93966 Jun 25, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
You have never given even any evidence that abiogenesis is impossible. That along with many successful experiments shows that once again you are clueless.
<quoted text>
Okay, that is definitely another "How's That for Stupid?" moment.
I lost count was that four or five completely idiotic, unsupported, proven wrong, statements in one post?
What "many successful experiments?" Urey-Miller?..a collossal failure... You think that producing a few amino acids and sugars in a lab proves anything?
You are apprently grossly ignorant as to the complexity of life.
You can rant and spout off ad nauseum in the vain attempts to defend your evo-relgion. At the end of the day, you embrace a theory that is entirely unsupported by science.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#93967 Jun 25, 2013
Double Fine wrote:
Hi all. Missed me any?
Hey DF! Long time, no see!

Nah. Pretty much same old stuff.

HTS (as you can see) is still in unsupported assertion mode.

We **DO** have the return of another classic (whacked-out) poster on another thread.

Who?

I'll give you a hint:

"Girasas"
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“Pissing people off since 1949”

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#93969 Jun 25, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey DF! Long time, no see!
Nah. Pretty much same old stuff.
HTS (as you can see) is still in unsupported assertion mode.
We **DO** have the return of another classic (whacked-out) poster on another thread.
Who?
I'll give you a hint:
"Girasas"
Brenda??? Which thread?

“Up with which, I will not put”

Since: Jul 08

Sao Paulo

#93970 Jun 25, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
...It seems that this site does not like to see the abbreviation for Frequently Asked Questions.
Really? What the faq is up with that?

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#93971 Jun 25, 2013
Double Fine wrote:
Hi all. Missed me any?
Nice to see you again! Welcome back.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#93972 Jun 25, 2013
HTS wrote:
<quoted text>
What "many successful experiments?" Urey-Miller?..a collossal failure... You think that producing a few amino acids and sugars in a lab proves anything?
You are apprently grossly ignorant as to the complexity of life.
You can rant and spout off ad nauseum in the vain attempts to defend your evo-relgion. At the end of the day, you embrace a theory that is entirely unsupported by science.
Wrong again idiot and demonstrably so.

The Urey-Miller experiment was even more successful than they first thought. You are showing your complete lack of understanding of how science works.

What do you think the goal of the Urey-Miller experiment was?

Thank the Flying Spaghetti Monster that our inventors are not like you. With your first failure you would declare it to be impossible.

What a weak weak character you are.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#93973 Jun 25, 2013
MikeF wrote:
<quoted text>
Brenda??? Which thread?
Thrinaxodon - a World First

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#93974 Jun 25, 2013
MikeF wrote:
<quoted text>
Brenda??? Which thread?
This thread:

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TJL...

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#93975 Jun 25, 2013
JM_Brazil wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? What the faq is up with that?
Strange.

It just happened to me again. Perhaps it is the plural that this site does not like.

This is only a test: "faq".

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#93976 Jun 25, 2013
ARGH!

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#93977 Jun 25, 2013
Yep, signed out and back in. I cannot see my post with "faq s" (squish those too together) but I can see my post with "faq" when I log out.
HTS

Englewood, CO

#93978 Jun 25, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong again idiot and demonstrably so.
The Urey-Miller experiment was even more successful than they first thought. You are showing your complete lack of understanding of how science works.
What do you think the goal of the Urey-Miller experiment was?
Thank the Flying Spaghetti Monster that our inventors are not like you. With your first failure you would declare it to be impossible.
What a weak weak character you are.
The spontaneous appearance of simple sugars and amino acids in a controlled laboratory experiment does to prove that vastly more complex molecules could appear by chance.
A monkey can in fact randomly type keys...that does not prove he can type Shakespeare.
A few building blocks of life produced by random events doesn't prove that a skyscraper could be produced by random events.
Tell me what the Urey-Miller experiment proved...

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#93979 Jun 25, 2013
HTS wrote:
<quoted text>
The spontaneous appearance of simple sugars and amino acids in a controlled laboratory experiment does to prove that vastly more complex molecules could appear by chance.
A monkey can in fact randomly type keys...that does not prove he can type Shakespeare.
A few building blocks of life produced by random events doesn't prove that a skyscraper could be produced by random events.
Tell me what the Urey-Miller experiment proved...
Why must you lie in every post?

You should know that you are lying since you have made the same errant claim thousands of times.

First off, the appearance of complex molecules are not by chance. The appearance of complex molecules occurs do to the laws of chemistry.

You even admitted that the Miller-Urey experiment was successful in this post and you still want me to tell you what the experiment proved.

What a moron.

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