Well sir, I have never quoted Johnson, nor was I concerned what Hitler used to drive his armies. My point was atheism wants no competition from God, and lawyers have a reputation for wanting to "win" despite the truth. On the other point, establishment can be entirely in error. This happened in the NW US concerning the Missoula Flood. The Geologist that proposed it was beat down by the entire gov geologic establishment in two countries, but was vindicated after his death. One thing he purposed was short duration catastrophisim - oh, goodness! a back door tactic for those horrible ID people, grab your trench coats, commence the witch hunt, ID in disguise! Bias is so dull.<quoted text>
Behind Intelligent Design, and trying to get creationist lies into public schools across America is Phillip E. Johnson. A LAWYER. Behe may still be selling religious books, but I think he has a rather ‘iffy’ reputation as a scientist anymore.
“The entire establishments of the USSR and China feel the same way about evolution also, but I don't buy into dogma because of numbers.“
There is tremendous scientific evidence behind what I say about Adam and Eve.
What invalidates them is the fact that we have found abundant evidence of humans (Homo-sapiens) living as far back as 200,000 years ago. Archaeologists, paleoanthropologists, and DNA science have made the links, and we now understand that we humans ARE of the great ape line. So we did evolve and the above primates are our ancestors.
Also in the mix is that DNA scientists says that the human genome was never down to just 1 mating pair, at any time—or 4 mating pairs if you believe the Noachian Flood story.
So, do you think the Adam and Eve myth is viable anymore?? Of course you will….you are a fundamentalist who thinks the bible is literal truth, and you will deny or ignore the facts.
Funny thing about facts is they never go away and they are always facts.
A good place to start learning is: http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence and: http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/genetics These are at the Smithsonian Museum of Natural History website.
“I don’t want to believe, I want to know”– Carl Sagan
Yes I have presuppositions, but complexity doesn't arise in a mindless, self-driven system of hopeful forward complexity in experience or experiment. Yes I have faith, and fear. If there are questions to be answered that challenge Scripture I have confidence they will be answered. I stay current in the rebuttals from my side, and challenges are often dismantled very logically before press.
Fantastic complexity, the closed system of the cell, proof of the Biblical major geologic events (like the Great Unconformity), history, archeology evidence, its all there and fits, outside of my faith. If my faith was empty, with no answered prayer, revelation, or action, I would be a theistic skeptic or maybe a Panasperma cult follower. And yes, Adam and Eve were real people, because the Bible states so in many places. As more clues come in, who know's what can happen next? Eve in the mDNA made some headlines, what will you say if Adam turns up, will your side change position again?
Interesting that you use the term "paleoanthropologists " I remember not long ago Johansson was hoping one day it could be a "science", as all they had was bones to cover a pool table for all the transitionals, but now they have 1 1/2 tables and you are asking me to throw away my Bible. Sorry, no deal.