Evolution vs. Creation

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008. Read more

Since: Sep 12

Fort Worth, TX

#63448 Dec 5, 2012
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>No, I was wrong...I did some research and Missouri is where the Mormons believe the Garden of Eden was/is.

Hard to keep up with this stuff..:-)

And keep a straight face I might add...
Missouri is a fine state.....lol

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#63449 Dec 5, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
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Missouri is a fine state.....lol
Ramen...

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#63450 Dec 5, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
<quoted text>
Burn and abandon the constitution.
However if we're going to do that you'll lose the other 9 of your bill of rights. Established by Christians
"What must the United States do to rid ourselves of this blight (creationism) on humanity?"
Who wrote the constitution? I know Thomas Jefferson was rather heavily involved and he was not a Christian. He was a deist who did not believe in miracles, the Trinity, or the divinity of Jesus.

Ben Franklin seemed to be an atheist, though he was not a direct writer of the Constitution. Early America had more deists (those who believed in god but weren't Christians) and atheists than your history classes taught you.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#63451 Dec 5, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
<quoted text>
Burn and abandon the constitution.
However if we're going to do that you'll lose the other 9 of your bill of rights. Established by Christians
"What must the United States do to rid ourselves of this blight (creationism) on humanity?"
Established by Agnostics mostly, from what I hear. Why else would there be the separation of church and state and secular control.

I think our founding fathers were well educated and were a little leery of religion. EVERY time religion controls society people and society suffer greatly.

Creationism loses its credibility with me when it tries to move in on our schools and teach grossly wrong junkscience and try to exert moral control of the citizenry. My words to them are: quite trying to take over and impose your bullsh!t values on me.
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#63452 Dec 5, 2012
AustinHook wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you mean that religious "faith" is expected to act as a key to open up the box of religious magic?
Not at all. I just say that the "faithful" here don't know what they are or what they are looking for. They expect to find out through the only actions that they feel they can trust. They would spy on people who don't know they are being spied on.

You've got totally mangled people in the faith funny farm.

Since: Apr 11

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#63453 Dec 5, 2012
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Yup, I think you've finally found your level Chucks.
Oh, and you also replied. That makes you part of it.

Since: Apr 11

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#63454 Dec 5, 2012
anonymous wrote:
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Yes, well you can regress to those years of diaper dilemmas if you must. Just stop preaching at us!
I am not preaching but clarifying.

Since: Sep 12

Fort Worth, TX

#63455 Dec 5, 2012
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>You say:
"Ill debate God, faith , history. I do try to not argue science as I don't fully understand the ins and outs of evolution."

Fair enough.

With all the evidence piling up that contravenes the Bible and religion in general...how do you still believe in a magical God? Do you just ignore the evidence, or do you think the evidence is rigged somehow?
I don't believe in a magical God. God does what he does how he does it we just don't understand how. 1000 years ago the average person would look at a rainbow and see magic now we know about bending light and while they're still neat we know what it is. 300 years ago the idea of floating steel ships would have gotten you laughed at and called a dreamer now we have floating steel cities. 1000 years from now some new brand of science may come out proving evolution wrong. You can doubt it but just like God you can't prove it impossible.

I do not believe in God just because a book tells me to. It has to do with my personal experience. Things that took place in my life that go beyond coincidence past faith and things I can't even begin to understand in full. I do not doubt my own eyes I am convinced.
Even if the bible is just some collection of stories the lessons and truth that is there can't just be ignored.

Since: Sep 12

Fort Worth, TX

#63456 Dec 5, 2012
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>Established by Agnostics mostly, from what I hear. Why else would there be the separation of church and state and secular control.

I think our founding fathers were well educated and were a little leery of religion. EVERY time religion controls society people and society suffer greatly.

Creationism loses its credibility with me when it tries to move in on our schools and teach grossly wrong junkscience and try to exert moral control of the citizenry. My words to them are: quite trying to take over and impose your bullsh!t values on me.
Read the constitution and please tell me where it says separation of church and state. IT DOESN'T
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#63457 Dec 5, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> I am not preaching but clarifying.
That's a funny way of describing the act of painting the walls with the contents of your dirty diaper.

Right, Mr. GooGoo?

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#63458 Dec 5, 2012
thewordofme wrote:
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Established by Agnostics mostly, from what I hear. Why else would there be the separation of church and state and secular control.
I think our founding fathers were well educated and were a little leery of religion. EVERY time religion controls society people and society suffer greatly.
Creationism loses its credibility with me when it tries to move in on our schools and teach grossly wrong junkscience and try to exert moral control of the citizenry. My words to them are: quite trying to take over and impose your bullsh!t values on me.
Bill, your unbelief of the bible and God definitely will not change the reality of God's existence.
Our problem generally, is see and belief. But can you see spirits physically? no, but the world, its composition, enable us to know that there is a God. We use faith to determine this( that).

Since: Sep 12

Fort Worth, TX

#63459 Dec 5, 2012
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>Who wrote the constitution? I know Thomas Jefferson was rather heavily involved and he was not a Christian. He was a deist who did not believe in miracles, the Trinity, or the divinity of Jesus.

Ben Franklin seemed to be an atheist, though he was not a direct writer of the Constitution. Early America had more deists (those who believed in god but weren't Christians) and atheists than your history classes taught you.
Some light reading he may have been deist but that's even a maybe
http://www.wnd.com/2002/06/14285/

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#63460 Dec 5, 2012
anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>That's a funny way of describing the act of painting the walls with the contents of your dirty diaper.
Right, Mr. GooGoo?
Lol
Dirty? that is an understand. In the US alone, they( the Christians) are in the majority.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#63461 Dec 5, 2012
Typo:
I meant, understatement and not understand.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#63462 Dec 5, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> I am not preaching but clarifying.
Fine.

Let's assume that you've clarified.

You may go now.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#63463 Dec 5, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
<quoted text>
Read the constitution and please tell me where it says separation of church and state. IT DOESN'T
The phrase came from Thomas Jefferson and he was one of the writers of the constitution. If you want to say that the constitution should be interpreted as the the writers meant it when they first wrote it then you have to go by what Jefferson said.

Since: Apr 11

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#63464 Dec 5, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Lol
Dirty? that is an understand. In the US alone, they( the Christians) are in the majority.
Typographical error:
I meant, " understatement ", and not, " understand "...

Since: Apr 11

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#63465 Dec 5, 2012
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Fine.
Let's assume that you've clarified.
You may go now.
Don't be scared buddy, i am a registered member.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#63466 Dec 5, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
<quoted text>
Some light reading he may have been deist but that's even a maybe
http://www.wnd.com/2002/06/14285/
No, that had nothing that said that Jefferson was not a deist. And, worse yet, it was from a biased source.

Jefferson's religious views were well known. A weak religious site is not going to undo history.

Since: Sep 12

Fort Worth, TX

#63467 Dec 5, 2012
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>The phrase came from Thomas Jefferson and he was one of the writers of the constitution. If you want to say that the constitution should be interpreted as the the writers meant it when they first wrote it then you have to go by what Jefferson said.
So the constitution that was signed and we made our laws by shouldn't be read as it is but what he meant it to say or what you wish he meant it to say. Well than in that case lets do everything that way and make evolution the same as creation because I sure wish creation is what Darwin was saying so it is.
I live in a land where people say what they mean not what some other guys says it means.

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