Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 221445 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#63460 Dec 5, 2012
anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>That's a funny way of describing the act of painting the walls with the contents of your dirty diaper.
Right, Mr. GooGoo?
Lol
Dirty? that is an understand. In the US alone, they( the Christians) are in the majority.

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#63461 Dec 5, 2012
Typo:
I meant, understatement and not understand.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#63462 Dec 5, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> I am not preaching but clarifying.
Fine.

Let's assume that you've clarified.

You may go now.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#63463 Dec 5, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
<quoted text>
Read the constitution and please tell me where it says separation of church and state. IT DOESN'T
The phrase came from Thomas Jefferson and he was one of the writers of the constitution. If you want to say that the constitution should be interpreted as the the writers meant it when they first wrote it then you have to go by what Jefferson said.

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#63464 Dec 5, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Lol
Dirty? that is an understand. In the US alone, they( the Christians) are in the majority.
Typographical error:
I meant, " understatement ", and not, " understand "...

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#63465 Dec 5, 2012
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Fine.
Let's assume that you've clarified.
You may go now.
Don't be scared buddy, i am a registered member.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#63466 Dec 5, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
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Some light reading he may have been deist but that's even a maybe
http://www.wnd.com/2002/06/14285/
No, that had nothing that said that Jefferson was not a deist. And, worse yet, it was from a biased source.

Jefferson's religious views were well known. A weak religious site is not going to undo history.

Since: Sep 12

Arlington, TX

#63467 Dec 5, 2012
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>The phrase came from Thomas Jefferson and he was one of the writers of the constitution. If you want to say that the constitution should be interpreted as the the writers meant it when they first wrote it then you have to go by what Jefferson said.
So the constitution that was signed and we made our laws by shouldn't be read as it is but what he meant it to say or what you wish he meant it to say. Well than in that case lets do everything that way and make evolution the same as creation because I sure wish creation is what Darwin was saying so it is.
I live in a land where people say what they mean not what some other guys says it means.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#63468 Dec 5, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
<quoted text>
So the constitution that was signed and we made our laws by shouldn't be read as it is but what he meant it to say or what you wish he meant it to say. Well than in that case lets do everything that way and make evolution the same as creation because I sure wish creation is what Darwin was saying so it is.
I live in a land where people say what they mean not what some other guys says it means.
What, you clearly did not understand what I wrote.

The wording of the Constitution clearly left some questions about how church and state should interact. Jefferson, one of the main writers of the Constitution. If he was not an expert you would go to for clarification who would you go to? I am very much a original intent person when it comes to the Constitution. That means I am big on Second Amendment Rights, even though I do not now personally own a gun.

If the meaning of the Constitution is not clear to you, who better than old TJ to go for a clarification?

Since: Nov 12

Raymond, Canada

#63469 Dec 5, 2012
anonymous wrote:
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Not at all. I just say that the "faithful" here don't know what they are or what they are looking for. They expect to find out through the only actions that they feel they can trust. They would spy on people who don't know they are being spied on.
You've got totally mangled people in the faith funny farm.
I'm still looking to understand what people who claim "faith" in God, Jesus or whatever, mean by it. I figure I might be able to make at least a plausible case for some kind of God out there, and I might suspect that it was correct, but I wouldn't phrase it as faith. More likely I'd apply the word "faith" to my confidence in a light switch that had served me well already 10,000 times.

I know many people of "faith" who don't carry a lot of the baggage that the current wave of born-twicers do, and whose lives are much less messed up than those of many sceptics I know. I only wish there were an easy philosophical key to dealing with life. My experience is that religion is more like skin colour -- rather superficial to the innate personality.

As far as spying on people goes, I'm convinced that as many or more "liberal" or even non-believer politicians rationalize their need for warrantless spying as the other side does. It seems to me to be a moral failure along a different axis.

Since: Nov 12

Raymond, Canada

#63470 Dec 5, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Bill, your unbelief of the bible and God definitely will not change the reality of God's existence.
Our problem generally, is see and belief. But can you see spirits physically? no, but the world, its composition, enable us to know that there is a God. We use faith to determine this( that).
Sure sounds backwards to me. If the world and its composition allow one to know that there is a God, then faith derives from that, rather than that faith determines the world and it's composition.

Since: Nov 12

Raymond, Canada

#63471 Dec 5, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Bill, your unbelief of the bible and God definitely will not change the reality of God's existence.
Seems to me it should be more like "your [belief] of the bible and God definitely will not change the reality of.. existence.

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#63472 Dec 5, 2012
AustinHook wrote:
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Sure sounds backwards to me. If the world and its composition allow one to know that there is a God, then faith derives from that, rather than that faith determines the world and it's composition.
Opinions do differ(s).

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#63473 Dec 5, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
<quoted text>
Read the constitution and please tell me where it says separation of church and state. IT DOESN'T
Just didn't explain myself well...not to get upset my friend.

The country was set up so that religion did not control law and policy making. There was no national religion, like Sweden for instance.

In America many sects existed, but none were "officially" endorsed.

From what I understand the only reason many of the founders espoused religion was they could get killed if they disagreed too much. Religion is like that you know.

They still want it to be that way if you listen to the redneck creotards that clog many reply pages on some websites.

Religion is dangerous no matter which one you are talking about

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#63474 Dec 5, 2012
AustinHook wrote:
<quoted text>
Seems to me it should be more like "your [belief] of the bible and God definitely will not change the reality of.. existence.
Your translation or understanding.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#63475 Dec 5, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Bill, your unbelief of the bible and God definitely will not change the reality of God's existence.
Our problem generally, is see and belief. But can you see spirits physically? no, but the world, its composition, enable us to know that there is a God. We use faith to determine this( that).
Well Charles since I don't believe any God exists of course I am not changing the "reality" of God. God is not a reality.

My mission in life is to turn religious believers into non-believers by showing them the ridiculousness of that belief and how ridicules the whole sky-daddy thing is. We are very far away from the bronze age now and we need to stand up and cast off the old boogeyman who some think controls human destiny somehow.

Since: Nov 12

Raymond, Canada

#63476 Dec 5, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Opinions do differ(s).
And clear explanations of how one arrived at an opinion are the heart of of a very important thing that we can do fo each other. It builds group knowledge and consensus.

Since: Nov 12

Raymond, Canada

#63477 Dec 5, 2012
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>

My mission in life is to turn religious believers into non-believers by showing them the ridiculousness of that belief and how ridicules the whole sky-daddy thing is. We are very far away from the bronze age now and we need to stand up and cast off the old boogeyman who some think controls human destiny somehow.
Maybe we should settle for more and better airtight compartmentalization. I notice that in daily life it works pretty well; if only the politicians would leave it alone.

“Ignore the trolls”

Since: Oct 08

Glastonbury, UK

#63478 Dec 5, 2012
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks. Not the 290 mya whale fossils I am looking for, but interesting.
The first link is higly biased and short on important details, but the second link provided more detail.
So if creation geologist consider this to be evidence of a Worldwide flood, then they are pusing the date of that unsupported event back 2 million years if they are using these fossils. That may be the first time I have read about alledged flood evidence that didn't hit around the 4-6 thousand year range.
I tried getting the actual article from Geology that these two articles report on, but was unable to get access.
Only problem with that date using that is the humanoid species of that time would probably have had no chance of building an ark (lacked the skills/brainpower)- so either way the Noah story goes out of the window.

“Ignore the trolls”

Since: Oct 08

Glastonbury, UK

#63479 Dec 5, 2012
FREE SERVANT wrote:
The human brain is intricate in its fashioning and it is associated with the timing and functioning and correlating of much of the great complexity of the body. We as humans are apart from other creatures and much of our refinements are related to our brain and hand coordination. We think and feel with our hands. The hands contribute to the mental processes of thought and feeling.
Wonder where you plagiarised this? Ain't yours, that's for sure. Did you know that plagiarism is theft and one of the commandments has something to say on that one?

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