Evolution vs. Creation

There are 20 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#61635 Nov 28, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
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My faith doesn't make me unwilling to learn. It gives me freedom from sin. Evolution isn't sinful. Removing God from his creation is. Faith is just a part of who I am like an arm or a leg. I was once a very mean person I drank to much spent a lot of time in jail I was a thief and a liar. When I was at my lowest point God found me when no one else would have me God accepted me he has answered so many of my prayers it goes so far beyond mathematical probability. When I say I have first hand knowledge of God I mean what I say not some guy told me about Jesus and now I have his knowledge.
Evolution really doesn't remove God from creation. Evolution is just what is seen when you look at all the evidence.

If you feel you are a better person because of your faith that is great, but your faith or any other should not be the basis for science. Science doesn't care about religion, politics, geography or national boundries.

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#61636 Nov 28, 2012
FREE SERVANT wrote:
The early period of human history is said to be the Stone Age by Darwinist, but the Bible tells us there were giants in those days and Noah fashioned an ark with a window and a door and it had three stories. I don't think an apelike caveman could have done such a thing. The first humans must have had good understanding with a high mental capacity. I have seen studies that indicate aptitude may have decreased from the first man.
The Stone Age was coined by archeologists if I am not mistaken. It refers to the level of technology possessed by those peoples. Biblical times were in what is known as the Bronze Age.

What do giants referenced in the Bible have to do with anything? How tall were they? What was the average adult height at the time? Good understanding of what? What studies were these? How did they quantify aptitude? How were they able to quantify the aptitude of the "first man?" If aptitude is decreasing, then how come science and technology are increaseing?
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Bellevue, WA

#61637 Nov 28, 2012
Anyone who calls themselves Christians should believe Noah existed because Jesus mentioned him.

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Since: May 08

Orlando

#61638 Nov 28, 2012
FREE SERVANT wrote:
Anyone who calls themselves Christians should believe Noah existed because Jesus mentioned him.
...or, at least the people writing about Jesus (minimum 60 yrs after His supposed death) SAID Jesus mentioned Noah.

....at least thats what those persons that EDITED the books that became the Bible (cir 1300's?) said that those writers of the books of the Bible said!
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Bellevue, WA

#61639 Nov 28, 2012
Kong_ wrote:
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...or, at least the people writing about Jesus (minimum 60 yrs after His supposed death) SAID Jesus mentioned Noah.
....at least thats what those persons that EDITED the books that became the Bible (cir 1300's?) said that those writers of the books of the Bible said!
Yes, and it a miracle that we have the Bible.

Since: Sep 12

United States

#61640 Nov 28, 2012
Kong_ wrote:
<quoted text>...or, at least the people writing about Jesus (minimum 60 yrs after His supposed death) SAID Jesus mentioned Noah.

....at least thats what those persons that EDITED the books that became the Bible (cir 1300's?) said that those writers of the books of the Bible said!
http://www.askelm.com/doctrine/d740101.htm

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Orlando

#61641 Nov 28, 2012
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, and it a miracle that we have the Bible.
....written by simple,(comparatively) ignorant, ancient shepards, based upon even earlier oral traditions?
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Bellevue, WA

#61642 Nov 28, 2012
Kong_ wrote:
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....written by simple,(comparatively) ignorant, ancient shepards, based upon even earlier oral traditions?
Written very very painstakingly.....

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#61643 Nov 28, 2012
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, and it a miracle that we have the Bible.
No miracle. Most current religions have a sacred text or texts. What would be a miracle is for people to realize that it is not the absolute word of God, but a book translated through a dozen languages during its development with material based on previous religions and stories from other cultures and the fnial copy we have has had the contents cherry picked with what is included. That would be a true miracle.

I was raised in a Southern Baptist church and then a United Methodist Church. Growing up under this tutelage, I found that a literal interpretation of the Bible was often at odds with the facts, was rigid and regressive and often led to contradictions in its understanding. A strict interpretation of the Bible is not a prerequiste for belief in God. The Bible is full of a lot of wisdom, but as any text written by men, is not without error. God doesn't want blind fools that never grow or develop and that is what a literal interpretation creates.

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#61644 Nov 28, 2012
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Written very very painstakingly.....
Not anymore than anything else written by man. Some parts less so than others.

That is just wishful thinking or denial.

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Since: Oct 08

London, UK

#61645 Nov 28, 2012
Constitution-lover wrote:
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No all science...Just any science that lies about age of the Earth and stupid evolution....
Oh, so some science isn't spawned by the devil and some is? How do you tell the difference? Or is it just the bits you want to use you accept and the bits you don't like you reject? Sounds to me a little like the bible - some is believable, some is rubbish.

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London, UK

#61646 Nov 28, 2012
Constitution-lover wrote:
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The Earth is less then 20,000 years old and man has not evolved from an ape....ANYTHING THAT SAYS DIFFERENT IS A LIE AND SATANS WORK.
Quick tip for you - posting rubbish in capitals will not make it true. And deflection is the art of one who has lost the argument (look up deflection if you are not sure of the term).

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Since: May 08

Orlando

#61647 Nov 28, 2012
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>No miracle. Most current religions have a sacred text or texts. What would be a miracle is for people to realize that it is not the absolute word of God, but a book translated through a dozen languages during its development with material based on previous religions and stories from other cultures and the fnial copy we have has had the contents cherry picked with what is included. That would be a true miracle.

I was raised in a Southern Baptist church and then a United Methodist Church. Growing up under this tutelage, I found that a literal interpretation of the Bible was often at odds with the facts, was rigid and regressive and often led to contradictions in its understanding. A strict interpretation of the Bible is not a prerequiste for belief in God. The Bible is full of a lot of wisdom, but as any text written by men, is not without error. God doesn't want blind fools that never grow or develop and that is what a literal interpretation creates.
Well said.

And just where I was going.

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#61648 Nov 28, 2012
FREE SERVANT wrote:
Anyone who calls themselves Christians should believe Noah existed because Jesus mentioned him.
So if Jesus didn't mention a person, then they didn't exist. On the other hand, I am mentioning Flash Gordon. Does that mean Flash existed?

Jesus, being a young Jewish man of his time would have been familiar with the religios texts of Judaism and the allegory of Noah. Just as he knew of the professies surrounding the messiah and was able to miraculously fulfill them. I don't find this mention of Noah to be proof of the existence of Noah. Further, the existence of a Noah does not in turn prove the existence of a World wide flood.

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London, UK

#61649 Nov 28, 2012
Constitution-lover wrote:
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6 total days it took God from start of universe to all living things done. What God did with Cain was painted him black so he look like the savage subhuman blacks. Only White people are Gods chosen or human as it were.
Wow - how's your white cloak and pointy white hat? Burnt any crosses lately? Christianity - not only do you not know you religion's own teaching, but you express yourself like an ignoramous.

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#61650 Nov 28, 2012
tony1003 wrote:
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Oh, so some science isn't spawned by the devil and some is? How do you tell the difference? Or is it just the bits you want to use you accept and the bits you don't like you reject? Sounds to me a little like the bible - some is believable, some is rubbish.
Isn't it interesting that he rejects the science that puts his beliefs in question, but accepts the science that gets him to work and Wal Mart or sends rockets into space. What I find most interesting is that the physics that accepts is the same physics used to age rocks and the Earth itself.

That kind of thinking is all the devil man will ever need.

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#61651 Nov 28, 2012
Kong_ wrote:
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Well said.
And just where I was going.
Thanks Kong.
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Fort Lauderdale, FL

#61652 Nov 28, 2012
Discord wrote:
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Atheism has nothing to do with Evolution. Why would scientists support Evolution with no evidence?
I agree on the part where you say "Why would scientists support Evolution with no evidence"

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London, UK

#61653 Nov 28, 2012
Constitution-lover wrote:
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No Jesus was a Nazarene....MEANING WHITE.... Sorry only White people are TRUE humans. Rest are just somewhat smart apes..
Oh really - so now the Middle East is full of white people. This is better than any comedy show on TV.

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London, UK

#61654 Nov 28, 2012
Constitution-lover wrote:
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I am not a bigot. I treat all humans equal.
As long as they are white, for, according to you, blacks are not human. You are scum, nothing more and nothing less.

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