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Obama says Boy Scouts should allow gays as members

There are 635 comments on the New York Daily News story from Feb 3, 2013, titled Obama says Boy Scouts should allow gays as members. In it, New York Daily News reports that:

U.S. President Barack Obama called for the Boy Scouts to allow gay members in comments aired right before the Super Bowl.

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Roberta

Plymouth, MN

#522 Feb 28, 2013
American_Infidel wrote:
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Typical lazy lib...I aint doing shit, google it yourself.
and btw, Hitler is the guy in the WH.
SIEG HEIL MEIN FUHRER, ODUMBA!!!
Nazis are associated with the right, not left, wing. Hence, Republicans are more closely associated with Hitler and skin heads than Democrats. Crazy, mixed up Republicans. How typical.

So we liberals are the ones to say to Republicans: "Seig Heil!" and "Eat Poop!"
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Cool Hand luke

Bangkok, Thailand

#525 Mar 7, 2013
So your saying the CDC is misleading people?

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GAY MEN RESPONSIBLE FOR 79% OF NEW AIDS INFECTIONS

Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM)1 represent approximately 2% of the US population, yet are the population most severely affected by HIV. In 2009, MSM accounted for 61% of all new HIV infections, and MSM with a history of injection drug use (MSM-IDU) accounted for an additional 3% of new infections. That same year, young MSM accounted for 69% of new HIV infections among persons aged 13–29 and 44% of infections among all MSM. At the end of 2009, an estimated 441,669 (56%) persons living with an HIV diagnosis in the US were MSM or MSM-IDU.
The Numbers
New HIV Infections2

In 2009, MSM accounted for 61% of new HIV infections in the US and 79% of infections among all newly infected men. Compared with other groups, MSM accounted for the largest numbers of new HIV infections in 2009.
Among all MSM, white MSM accounted for 11,400 (39%) new HIV infections in 2009. The largest number of new infections (3,400) occurred in those aged 40–49.
Among all MSM, black/African American MSM accounted for 10,800 (37%) new HIV infections in 2009. Whereas new HIV infections were relatively stable among MSM overall from 2006–2009, they increased 34% among young MSM—an increase largely due to a 48% increase among young black/African American MSM aged 13–29.
Among all MSM, Hispanic/Latino MSM accounted for 6,000 (20%) new HIV infections in 2009. The largest percentage of new infections (45%) occurred in those aged 13–29.

Estimates of New HIV Infections in the US, 2009, for the Most-Affected Subpopulations
Shown here is a vertical bar chart entitled,“Estimates of New HIV Infections in the United States, 2009, for the Most-Affected Subpopulations”. White MSM = 11,400 Black MSM = 10, 800 Women = 6,000 Latino MSM = 5,400 Black Heterosexual Men =2,400 White Heterosexual Women = 1,700 Black Male IDUs = 1,700 Latina Heterosexual Women = 1,200 Black Female IDUs =940 Subpopulations representing 2% or less of the overall US epidemic are not reflected in this chart.

Subpopulations representing 2% or less of the overall US epidemic are not reflected in this chart.
HIV and AIDS Diagnoses3 and Deaths

In 2010, in the 46 states with long-term confidential, name-based reporting, MSM accounted for 78% of estimated HIV diagnoses among all males aged 13 years and older, and 61% of estimated diagnoses among all persons receiving an HIV diagnosis that year.
At the end of 2009, of the estimated 784,701 persons living with an HIV diagnosis, 396,810, or 51%, were MSM. About 48% of MSM living with an HIV diagnosis were white, 30% were black/African American, and 19% were Hispanic/Latino.
In 2010, MSM accounted for 51% of estimated AIDS diagnoses among all adults and adolescents in the 50 states and the District of Columbia. Of the estimated 16,796 AIDS diagnoses among MSM, 37% were in blacks/African Americans; 36% in whites; and 22% in Hispanics/Latinos.
By the end of 2009, an estimated 296,222 MSM with an AIDS diagnosis had died in the US since the beginning of the epidemic.

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/index.htm
Not Yet Equal wrote:
False information mixed in with a few misleading facts, is offered in order demonize, dehumanize, and justify punishment. Yet it ignores that even more straight people do everything done by gay people, and we don't deny fundamental rights based on disease.
Cool Hand luke

Bangkok, Thailand

#526 Mar 7, 2013
That's not what the CDC SAYS! You know that thought don't you? Your hoping some dumb a.. politician will believe you!
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So your saying the CDC is misleading people?
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http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/index.htm
Not Yet Equal wrote:
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Again, gay women are the lowest risk group.
Straight men and women have a higher rate of infection than gay women.
Does this mean most straight men and women are infected?
A higher rate does not mean the majority are infected. They are not.
This is another example of misusing information for a purpose it was never intended. We don't use disease transmission rates to deny equal rights. Your desire to do so now, is irrational.
Disease transmission information demonstrates the importance of encouraging committed monogamous relationships through marriage.
It also demonstrates the importance of comprehensive education about disease transmission and risk reduction.
It fails as an excuse for denial of equal fundamental rights.
Because it provides no legitimate governmental interest, it is nothing more than an attempt to demonize, dehumanize, and rationalize harming others needlessly.
Will Money

San Jose, CA

#527 Mar 7, 2013
They will lie at the drop of a hat!
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Will Money

San Jose, CA

#530 Mar 7, 2013
No it's usually the queers and their political allies doing the lying.
Sparkle wrote:
<quoted text>your right... christians lie lie lie
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“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#532 Mar 7, 2013
Cool Hand luke wrote:
So your saying the CDC is misleading people?
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GAY MEN RESPONSIBLE FOR 79% OF NEW AIDS INFECTIONS
Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM)1 represent approximately 2% of the US population, yet are the population most severely affected by HIV. In 2009, MSM accounted for 61% of all new HIV infections, and MSM with a history of injection drug use (MSM-IDU) accounted for an additional 3% of new infections. That same year, young MSM accounted for 69% of new HIV infections among persons aged 13–29 and 44% of infections among all MSM. At the end of 2009, an estimated 441,669 (56%) persons living with an HIV diagnosis in the US were MSM or MSM-IDU.
The Numbers
New HIV Infections2
In 2009, MSM accounted for 61% of new HIV infections in the US and 79% of infections among all newly infected men. Compared with other groups, MSM accounted for the largest numbers of new HIV infections in 2009.
Among all MSM, white MSM accounted for 11,400 (39%) new HIV infections in 2009. The largest number of new infections (3,400) occurred in those aged 40–49.
Among all MSM, black/African American MSM accounted for 10,800 (37%) new HIV infections in 2009. Whereas new HIV infections were relatively stable among MSM overall from 2006–2009, they increased 34% among young MSM—an increase largely due to a 48% increase among young black/African American MSM aged 13–29.
Among all MSM, Hispanic/Latino MSM accounted for 6,000 (20%) new HIV infections in 2009. The largest percentage of new infections (45%) occurred in those aged 13–29.
Estimates of New HIV Infections in the US, 2009, for the Most-Affected Subpopulations
Shown here is a vertical bar chart entitled,“Estimates of New HIV Infections in the United States, 2009, for the Most-Affected Subpopulations”. White MSM = 11,400 Black MSM = 10, 800 Women = 6,000 Latino MSM = 5,400 Black Heterosexual Men =2,400 White Heterosexual Women = 1,700 Black Male IDUs = 1,700 Latina Heterosexual Women = 1,200 Black Female IDUs =940 Subpopulations representing 2% or less of the overall US epidemic are not reflected in this chart.
Subpopulations representing 2% or less of the overall US epidemic are not reflected in this chart.
HIV and AIDS Diagnoses3 and Deaths
In 2010, in the 46 states with long-term confidential, name-based reporting, MSM accounted for 78% of estimated HIV diagnoses among all males aged 13 years and older, and 61% of estimated diagnoses among all persons receiving an HIV diagnosis that year.
At the end of 2009, of the estimated 784,701 persons living with an HIV diagnosis, 396,810, or 51%, were MSM. About 48% of MSM living with an HIV diagnosis were white, 30% were black/African American, and 19% were Hispanic/Latino.
In 2010, MSM accounted for 51% of estimated AIDS diagnoses among all adults and adolescents in the 50 states and the District of Columbia. Of the estimated 16,796 AIDS diagnoses among MSM, 37% were in blacks/African Americans; 36% in whites; and 22% in Hispanics/Latinos.
By the end of 2009, an estimated 296,222 MSM with an AIDS diagnosis had died in the US since the beginning of the epidemic.
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/index.htm
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STOP having unsafe sex and you'll be fine. WHAT are YOU so worried about, unless you are opening your legs for strangers.
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“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#534 Mar 8, 2013
Worm wrote:
Maybe we are just sick and tired of paying the bills for sh.t eating homosexuals!
Maybe I am tired of paying my huge taxes to keep your cross eyed brats in reform school.

“Alley Cat Blues”

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#535 Mar 8, 2013
Worm wrote:
Maybe we are just sick and tired of paying the bills for sh.t eating homosexuals!
Do you think homosexuals don't pay taxes for you?

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#536 Mar 8, 2013
"Homophobia, stigma, and discrimination put MSM at risk for multiple physical and mental health problems and affect whether MSM seek and are able to obtain high-quality health services. Negative attitudes about homosexuality can lead to rejection by friends and family, discriminatory acts, and bullying and violence. These dynamics make it difficult for some MSM to be open about same-sex behaviors with others, which can increase stress, limit social support, and negatively affect health." CDC

The prejudice promoted on this site and elsewhere contributes to the high risk behavior which results in disease transmission.

Safe sex and risk reduction need to be part of general education.
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Since: Jun 11

AOL

#538 Mar 8, 2013
Again, gay women are the lowest risk group.

Straight men and women have a higher rate of infection than gay women, according to the CDC.

A higher rate does not mean the majority are infected. They are not.

This is another example of misusing information for a purpose it was never intended. We don't use disease transmission rates to deny equal rights.
The desire to do so now, and only for one segment of the population, is irrational.

Disease transmission information demonstrates the importance of encouraging committed monogamous relationships through marriage.

It also demonstrates the importance of comprehensive education about disease transmission and risk reduction.

It fails as an excuse for denial of equal fundamental rights.

Because it provides no legitimate governmental interest, the use here is nothing more than an attempt to demonize, dehumanize, and rationalize harming others needlessly.
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Since: Jun 11

AOL

#541 Mar 8, 2013
CHICAGO — Suicide attempts by gay teens — and even straight kids — are more common in politically conservative areas where schools don't have programs supporting gay rights, a study involving nearly 32,000 high school students found.

Those factors raised the odds and were a substantial influence on suicide attempts even when known risk contributors like depression and being bullied were considered, said study author Mark Hatzenbuehler, a Columbia University psychologist and researcher.

His study found a higher rate of suicide attempts even among kids who weren't bullied or depressed when they lived in counties less supportive of gays and with relatively few Democrats. A high proportion of Democrats was a measure used as a proxy for a more liberal environment.

The research focused only on the state of Oregon and created a social index to assess which outside factors might contribute to suicidal tendencies. Other teen health experts called it a powerful, novel way to evaluate a tragic social problem.

"Is it surprising? No. Is it important? Yes," said Dr. Robert Blum of Johns Hopkins' Bloomberg School of Public Health.

The study "takes our relatively superficial knowledge and provides a bit more depth. Clearly, we need lots more understanding, but this is very much a step in the right direction," he said.

Blum serves on an Institute of Medicine committee that recently released a report urging more research on gay health issues. Blum said the new study is the kind of research the institute believes has been lacking. The independent group advises the government on health matters.

The new study was published online Monday in the journal Pediatrics.
Previous research has found disproportionately high suicide rates in gay teens.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42635619/ns/healt...

Prejudice kills.
Robert Schiavell

Midlothian, TX

#542 Mar 8, 2013
Cool Hand luke wrote:
So your saying the CDC is misleading people?
.
GAY MEN RESPONSIBLE FOR 79% OF NEW AIDS INFECTIONS

<quoted text>
Hey, I have an idea. Why don't we encourage "gay marriage" so they find a committed life partner.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#543 Mar 8, 2013
20 oz Soda Cures Buggery wrote:
Save the children.
Hurry!
I am, I pay taxes with both hands to keep your window licking brats in school.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#544 Mar 8, 2013
High risk sex and other self destructive behaviors are higher in populations that are subjected to prejudice and rejection. While most survive, too many do not.

"Many studies find a higher rate of health and mental health problems among lesbian, gay and bisexual and transgender (LGBT) teens than in heterosexual youth, often fingering social rejection as the culprit. A new study of lesbians, gays and bisexuals, however, suggests another major possible cause: parental rejection.
The research, published in the January Pediatrics (Vol. 123, No. 1), found that LGB adults who reported high rates of parental rejection in their teens were 8.4 times more likely to report having attempted suicide, 5.9 times more likely to report high levels of depression, 3.4 times more likely to use illegal drugs, and 3.4 times more likely to have had unprotected sex than LGB peers who reported no or low levels of family rejection, reports the study team, headed by Caitlin Ryan, PhD, of San Francisco State University.

"Because families play such a critical role in child and adolescent development, it is not surprising that adverse, punitive and traumatic reactions from parents and caregivers would have such a negative influence on [young people's] risk behaviors and health status as young adults," the authors write.

The study, conducted on 224 white and Latino LGB young adults, is the first to identify and measure specific parental rejecting behaviors and link them to health and mental health outcomes in LGB youth, Ryan says. The work is part of a larger project called the Family Acceptance Project ( http://familyproject.sfsu.edu ). Ryan is using the findings to develop interventions to help families from various ethnicities better support their LGBT children, she says.

Preliminary results are promising: "We've seen that families can grow and become more supportive once they've learned how their words, actions and behaviors affect their LGBT children," she says."

http://www.apa.org/monitor/2009/03/orientatio...

Prejudice can be overcome. But when spread, it kills.
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“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#546 Mar 8, 2013
20 oz Soda Cures Buggery wrote:
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So says the hebrew narcissist packer. All citizens, children or not, have an obligation to our youth and a good education in hopes of a morally sound society. As you can see however, public education has been heavily influenced by the regressive liberals. The same morons coming up with this idea or ss parenting.
How about saying thank you for my paying for your future drop out kids while I have none.

Of course I have no problem paying for schools. I went to school on other people's tax money, I drive on streets for paid by taxes, I am protected by police and fire fighters, and so on. I just am sick and tired of you guys saying that gay people do not carry their share. Most of the guys I know make good incomes and pay GOBS of taxes. You guys always forget that, don't you?

For every little West Hollywood queen who stays home and eats bon bons, there are 50 who go to work every day and pay their rightful share to the general funds.
Cool Hand Luke

Bangkok, Thailand

#547 Mar 8, 2013
Do you mean like when homosexuals claimed that if they were allowed to become priests in the Catholic Church celibacy would make them less likely to molest children? Is that what you mean? Because we know how that worked out!
Robert Schiavell wrote:
<quoted text>Hey, I have an idea. Why don't we encourage "gay marriage" so they find a committed life partner.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#548 Mar 8, 2013
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
Do you mean like when homosexuals claimed that if they were allowed to become priests in the Catholic Church celibacy would make them less likely to molest children? Is that what you mean? Because we know how that worked out!
<quoted text>
Comparing an institution devoted to unworkable celibacy with letting pre pubescent gay kids have a scouting experience? Real logical, Cletus. I bet you ripped the debate team to shreds!
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“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#551 Mar 9, 2013
Me Me Me Me wrote:
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And if everyone thinks and lives like you the selfish narcissist, this nation will be virtually gone in less than 75 years, so maybe deporting you to The Middle East isn't a bad idea after all.
Not much of an economics buff, are we?
Wow, you're WELCOME to my huge taxes. Enjoy educating your brats.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#552 Mar 9, 2013
Me Me Me Me wrote:
<quoted text>
And if everyone thinks and lives like you the selfish narcissist, this nation will be virtually gone in less than 75 years, so maybe deporting you to The Middle East isn't a bad idea after all.
Not much of an economics buff, are we?
I note you completely ignored post 246 which refutes everything you said about me in your crabby taunt.

TYPICAL hater. ONLY responds to what furthers his agenda. Ignores anything that might agree with him. Great debate techniques, Cletus.

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Since: Mar 09

THE CONSERVATIVE REVOLUTION!!

#553 Mar 9, 2013
Emboldening the gays is another method of weakening and destroying the country which is what Obama and the Democrats are trying to do.

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