Hong Kong Welcomes Edward Snowden to ...

Hong Kong Welcomes Edward Snowden to the Neighborhood

There are 95 comments on the The Atlantic story from Jun 18, 2013, titled Hong Kong Welcomes Edward Snowden to the Neighborhood. In it, The Atlantic reports that:

It may still be early in Edward Snowden's attempt to find safe haven here, but a new poll and a weekend rally demanding that the local government protect Snowden indicate that the people and government of this semi-autonomous region of China may be taking a shine to the 29-year-old whistle-blower.

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dude

Aberdeen, WA

#42 Jul 2, 2013
Guest wrote:
They only collected phone numbers and who they called and they went before the courts to get that. From that list they scanned for known terrorist phone numbers. When they find one they go before the court to get wire taps on that number.
They can care less if you were hooking up with girlfriend behind your wife's back, fools.
Ok they have also been wire taping and bugging Euro diplomats in DC, London and Brussels. Are Euro diplomats their terror suspects? Have you ever considered that maybe Barry and his friends tell lies from time to time? Think about it..
Guest

United States

#43 Jul 2, 2013
dude wrote:
<quoted text>Ok they have also been wire taping and bugging Euro diplomats in DC, London and Brussels. Are Euro diplomats their terror suspects? Have you ever considered that maybe Barry and his friends tell lies from time to time? Think about it..
Link?
The main problem with the conspiracy nuts is surveillance on American Citizens and those you speak of are not. You believe US diplomats in Russia are not wire tapped?
Lamer

Hopkins, MN

#44 Jul 2, 2013
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According to the Verizon info, it was only numbers called and time called.
you keep trying to repeate what you "think" they are collecting and every time you open your mouth it's something different. Or you can look at the docs that show what is being collected. At this point, either way, its clear your nuts
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Lamer

Hopkins, MN

#46 Jul 2, 2013
Guest wrote:
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Link?
The main problem with the conspiracy nuts is surveillance on American Citizens and those you speak of are not. You believe US diplomats in Russia are not wire tapped?
I believe our diplomats in russia are smart enough to use their own satilite uplinks and sat phones with encryption. But we are talking about bugging offices and such as well. I thought NATO and the EU were supposed to be our allies but it looks like we spy on those closer to us than our enemies.
Guest

United States

#47 Jul 2, 2013
Lamer wrote:
<quoted text>you keep trying to repeate what you "think" they are collecting and every time you open your mouth it's something different. Or you can look at the docs that show what is being collected. At this point, either way, its clear your nuts
Not what I think. What was reported. Get out much? You think the Government is interested in you? Paranoid are ya?
Guest

United States

#48 Jul 2, 2013
Lamer wrote:
<quoted text>I believe our diplomats in russia are smart enough to use their own satilite uplinks and sat phones with encryption. But we are talking about bugging offices and such as well. I thought NATO and the EU were supposed to be our allies but it looks like we spy on those closer to us than our enemies.
Just because someone has the ability to do it doesn't mean they do. Any Verizon or ATT employee can do the same thing but they have ethics. Snowden is a scared little boy, like you.
Lamer

Hopkins, MN

#49 Jul 2, 2013
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Not what I think. What was reported. Get out much? You think the Government is interested in you? Paranoid are ya?
then whereever you get your reports must be a shitty news site for you to change your tune on what they are collecting every day. And every day you have been wrong. If only you chose not to rely on shitty news reports and read the actual leaked docs...

My paranoia or lack there of doesnt really have anything to do with this topic. I'd run to change the topics too if i were you.
Lamer

Hopkins, MN

#50 Jul 2, 2013
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Just because someone has the ability to do it doesn't mean they do. Any Verizon or ATT employee can do the same thing but they have ethics. Snowden is a scared little boy, like you.
any verizon or att employee can bug a EU or NATO office? Really? its clear this whole time you have been grasping at straws; hell go back and read your post from the last page. They make no sense.

You can call me a scared little boy all you want, some random dumbass from the internet isnt goint ot hurt my feelings.
Lamer

Hopkins, MN

#51 Jul 2, 2013
Guest wrote:
They only collected phone numbers and who they called and they went before the courts to get that. From that list they scanned for known terrorist phone numbers. When they find one they go before the court to get wire taps on that number.
They can care less if you were hooking up with girlfriend behind your wife's back, fools.
This is the post that really makes you look dumb. If they have a "database of terrorist phone numbers" as you call it. Then why do they have to spy on everyone to see whom calls the terrorists numbers? THEY DONT! If they had a database of numbers why would they not just tap those and then they...get this....see who calls them without having to tap the other billion phones in the country....

So again, yes you have no idea what you are talking about.
Guest

United States

#52 Jul 2, 2013
Lamer wrote:
<quoted text>This is the post that really makes you look dumb. If they have a "database of terrorist phone numbers" as you call it. Then why do they have to spy on everyone to see whom calls the terrorists numbers? THEY DONT! If they had a database of numbers why would they not just tap those and then they...get this....see who calls them without having to tap the other billion phones in the country....

So again, yes you have no idea what you are talking about.
Hard to tap a phone in Yemen but easier to tap the phone in the US that is calling it. You can deny it all you like, I don't care.

The Gov is not interested in my pizza ordering or yours either but if you were calling a known terrorist or someone associated with them then yes, you have something to he worried about.

It's not a hard idea to grasp unless you are paranoid and believe the Gov is after you because you hate Obama.

As for Gov. spying on another Gov., it happens everyday. No surprise about that at all. That is not "new" news.

Snowden is only digging a deeper hole for himself.
Lamer

Hopkins, MN

#53 Jul 2, 2013
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Hard to tap a phone in Yemen but easier to tap the phone in the US that is calling it. You can deny it all you like, I don't care.
The Gov is not interested in my pizza ordering or yours either but if you were calling a known terrorist or someone associated with them then yes, you have something to he worried about.
It's not a hard idea to grasp unless you are paranoid and believe the Gov is after you because you hate Obama.
As for Gov. spying on another Gov., it happens everyday. No surprise about that at all. That is not "new" news.
Snowden is only digging a deeper hole for himself.
what do you mean its hard to tap a phone in yemen? Outfit a drone with cell technology and put them up in the air. Those cell phones connect to the drones rather than the tower and now you have a man in the middle attack. They did this with black sites across Europe in the 90s.

Or you can goto the yemen gov and get the equivilent to a subpena to get a tap on the line. Yemen has no problem bending over backwards for Obama as we saw when their gov tried to tell its people that it was their bombs and not our that were droning their towns.

I can think of another half dozen ways to tap a phone in yemen that would not need to spy on spy on citizen inside the USA.

But all that is beside the point if all you are worried about is US calls outgoing to a targeted number in yemen. All our telecoms are equiped to be able to pull those numbers on their own with a simple report and still not need to spy on a billion other phones.

Seems to me you do not have a very strong technological background to understand the concepts you keep trying to defend.
Holg

Berlin, Germany

#54 Jul 2, 2013
it was well known for everybody at least for me that criminals from usa spy globally and everybody and spend fat billions from cash of tax payers for this purpose. Such spying networks like facebook is easy leader in this crime.
One thing is not to understand, why you as nation don´t protest. Your pseudodemocratical, criminal governments destroy countries by all these global wars by using your taxes, destroy your lives, destroy your economy and global economy and additionally spy everybody. When do you intend to make something against it? After this point when your schisoid governments confirm that this guy or that guy are state enemies and begin to liquidate you gradually one by one. It is now time to protest, to show that you have balls too.
Lamer

Hopkins, MN

#55 Jul 2, 2013
Holg wrote:
it was well known for everybody at least for me that criminals from usa spy globally and everybody and spend fat billions from cash of tax payers for this purpose. Such spying networks like facebook is easy leader in this crime.
One thing is not to understand, why you as nation don´t protest. Your pseudodemocratical, criminal governments destroy countries by all these global wars by using your taxes, destroy your lives, destroy your economy and global economy and additionally spy everybody. When do you intend to make something against it? After this point when your schisoid governments confirm that this guy or that guy are state enemies and begin to liquidate you gradually one by one. It is now time to protest, to show that you have balls too.
because for years they have been taught they are free people and that their country is so great it's shitt dont stink. In that time they forgot they have to actually stand up for their freedoms. Now the ignorant masses and misinformation media will keep them in their place.

These are all self inflicted wounds and will reap everything they have sown, and rightfully so.
dude

Aberdeen, WA

#56 Jul 2, 2013
Guest wrote:
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Link?
The main problem with the conspiracy nuts is surveillance on American Citizens and those you speak of are not. You believe US diplomats in Russia are not wire tapped?
Every thing you've been saying I've heard before. Its the same narrative that comes from the leaders and big media. Look at the situation and think for yourself. Does a small band of extremists a few thousand miles away really justify this mass collection of data from us? Another point, who do you think is buying the billions it costs to run this collection ? Yet another point , do the terrorists have any intrest in you or me? Food for thought .
dude

Aberdeen, WA

#57 Jul 2, 2013
Lamer wrote:
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because for years they have been taught they are free people and that their country is so great it's shitt dont stink. In that time they forgot they have to actually stand up for their freedoms. Now the ignorant masses and misinformation media will keep them in their place.
These are all self inflicted wounds and will reap everything they have sown, and rightfully so.
I agree
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lulz

Laurinburg, NC

#59 Jul 12, 2013
well that explains why privacy index list america as a survaillence state. and the lack of suprise here does not get me one bit since you people are stupid enough to think having a government filled with psychopath watching you is cool.
guest

United States

#60 Jul 12, 2013
lulz wrote:
well that explains why privacy index list america as a survaillence state. and the lack of suprise here does not get me one bit since you people are stupid enough to think having a government filled with psychopath watching you is cool.
No one is watching little ole you unless you are calling Hazis in the Middle East. Until you do that, no one is concerned with you at all.
lulz

Laurinburg, NC

#61 Jul 13, 2013
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No one is watching little ole you unless you are calling Hazis in the Middle East. Until you do that, no one is concerned with you at all.
yeah i guess all that crap about targeting protesters like OWS and the tea party never happened right? i think you just cant accept the fact its being used for things other then what it was meant for. even the guy who made the patriot act is talking about how he regrets it now with what there doing with it and how they have got past the safeguards he put in it. one of the fisa judges defended it and as soon as she resigned a few days ago she started saying how bad it is and clapper pretty much commited perjury saying none of this happened and put out a bs fact sheet that was debunked on the first day took back and for some reason he still has his job. you want to know how easy it is to for someone to get survaillence on them? protest in front of a courthouse thats low level terrorism according to them. i aint a conspiracy nut but you dont have to believe in fake moon landings to know this #### aint right. christ its practically obvious.
guest

United States

#62 Jul 13, 2013
lulz wrote:
<quoted text>yeah i guess all that crap about targeting protesters like OWS and the tea party never happened right? i think you just cant accept the fact its being used for things other then what it was meant for. even the guy who made the patriot act is talking about how he regrets it now with what there doing with it and how they have got past the safeguards he put in it. one of the fisa judges defended it and as soon as she resigned a few days ago she started saying how bad it is and clapper pretty much commited perjury saying none of this happened and put out a bs fact sheet that was debunked on the first day took back and for some reason he still has his job. you want to know how easy it is to for someone to get survaillence on them? protest in front of a courthouse thats low level terrorism according to them. i aint a conspiracy nut but you dont have to believe in fake moon landings to know this #### aint right. christ its practically obvious.
You are a victim of Chem Trails.
dude

Aberdeen, WA

#63 Jul 14, 2013
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You are a victim of Chem Trails.
You are a victim of prozac, monday night football and MSNBC or whatever sheep herding news you watch. If you believe terrorists are going to get you if you don't give up some of your rights then you need to up your meds.

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