Republicans after Romney: Rebuild or revamp?

Nov 19, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Washington Times

WASHINGTON , November 19, 2012 - The Republicans are going through some serious soul-searching, following the defeat of their candidate Governor Mitt Romney.

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Billy Ringo

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inbred Genius wrote:
republicans...the party of people who work for a living and pay taxes.
Democrats...the party of moochers and tax takers, who sit around waiting on their check, after it has been forcibly removed from the people who actually pay taxes.
Hey, that's is exactly what Etchy said - what a coincidence !!!

Worked well for him.

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I think it is time you do some research on what Globalism is.
When you learn what Globalism is and what it does to national GDP and national soverignity, you may stop the D versus R game and realize the nonsense you are spewing is nothing more than DNC talking points.
Think for yourself, do your own research. Stop repeating what TV tells you.
I stand by those statistics...prove them wrong....
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<quoted text>Morons like you are the problem. You didn't win the election, we handed it to you with a third party candidate and a million and a half conservatives staying home because they were tired of being ignored. Obama was down nine million voters. If your way was the way, they would not have stayed home.
No. If the tea party stayed at home, that is their fault they lost. And if they did not stay at home, which is what I think, they were simply out voted because there are more young people plus black and Hispanic people, plus all the gays, the single mothers. The Dems had a coalition of several different groups of people and the Repubs ONLY had the tea party, the people 65 and older. They voted, they were simply out-voted and only by one percent. It was close. If Ryan had not said he was going to end SS and Medicare on everyone under 55, the Repubs would have gotten more young voters, or had Romney not revealed he was going to do a trade war with China, he would have won the Asian vote. They tend to vote Republican but the trade war with China tanked the Asian vote. He should have not said anything and just done the trade war after he got elected. Or, he could have played to the Mexicans that he will do an amnesty and then not do one, like Obama did. Or promise the gays stuff and not do it, like Obama does.
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The other thing is, like I said from day one, most people are fiscally conservative and socially liberal. Now I am a 35 year Republican and I am a moderate Repub, and I have never heard candidates talking about ending birth control and ending abortion and all the far right crazy talk on social issues. They need to stay out of the social issues. Some nut case like Santorum stirs the pot and he had zero chance of winning, and in the meantime, people hear that nut job talking his crazy talk and that drives young voters away from the party. They think Santorum is back in 1929. All I care is they fix the fiscal end of it and allow people to make a living and live free. I could care less if gays want to marry or a single woman who is poor wants to have an abortion. It's none of my business. I don't expect the government to monitor and control anyone's life. Liberty is not controlling people's lives. Both parties ran up debt until the country is going under, mismanaged everything in every way. They are all a sick joke. I would settle just for them not bankrupting the country at this point, never mind monitoring half the country not taking birth control pills.
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And, the Repubs also need to deal with global warming. Newt Gingrich admitted years ago that it is real, up until Bush's oil companies told ALL of the Repubs to go backwards and deny it. They need to catch up to 2012 so that they do appeal to younger voters. Young people ALL know global warming is real, they grow up around openly gay people and accept them same as anyone, many of them are bi-racial, so you can't sell them old time stay on ending oil and global warming is not real and attack women. It's too far in the past.
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Pamela wrote:
The other thing is, like I said from day one, most people are fiscally conservative and socially liberal. Now I am a 35 year Republican and I am a moderate Repub, and I have never heard candidates talking about ending birth control and ending abortion and all the far right crazy talk on social issues. They need to stay out of the social issues. Some nut case like Santorum stirs the pot and he had zero chance of winning, and in the meantime, people hear that nut job talking his crazy talk and that drives young voters away from the party. They think Santorum is back in 1929. All I care is they fix the fiscal end of it and allow people to make a living and live free. I could care less if gays want to marry or a single woman who is poor wants to have an abortion. It's none of my business. I don't expect the government to monitor and control anyone's life. Liberty is not controlling people's lives. Both parties ran up debt until the country is going under, mismanaged everything in every way. They are all a sick joke. I would settle just for them not bankrupting the country at this point, never mind monitoring half the country not taking birth control pills.
As much as the Cons would like to avoid social issues, they are very important to a lot of voters. A candidate cannot ignore them.
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2012 Election Results: After Losing Badly, the GOP Must Do 9 Things to Avoid Becoming Extinct

1. Obama was vulnerable: if voters could be assured that his opponent would not initiate a similar political fiasco as we have witnessed during the past four years. Romney was not able to do so. Voters stayed with the incumbent. The importance of Obama’s victory in the face of adversity should not be understated. Remember economic conditions did not improve under Obama, gasoline prices are a multiple of what they were when the president began his first term, poverty is much greater as measured by food stamps usage, and unemployment has remained at unprecedented levels.

2. Conservatives should stop:“obsessing about what other adults might be doing in their bedrooms.” If their activities are lawful and consensual, impinging on these people is “socially uncouth and politically counterproductive” The GOP is supposed to be the party of small and less intrusive government. Yet, it has legions of busybodies who peak into their neighbors’ homes.

3. Conservatives need to:“tone down the abortion extremism.” Opposition to abortion in cases of rape and incest is unacceptable to a majority of Americans. The GOP lost an incredible number of votes because a few in the party convinced many women that Republicans as a party espouse such a radical perspective.

4.“Bilingualism is an intelligent virtue: not a deviant sexual practice.” Stephens’ metaphor is pretty far out, but his point is clear. Children who learn both Spanish and English growing up will be better for it. Certainly, English needs to be taught in schools for the benefit of students who will eventually enter a work force that communicates mostly in English. But, this is not an issue that Republicans should be clamoring about, as it will only alienate Hispanics who are pretty alienated already.

5. The GOP base should demand: that congressional candidates take IQ tests.“There were at least five Senate seats that might have been occupied by a Republican come January had not the invincible stupidity of the candidates stood in the way.” I am sure Stephens’ comment was made tongue in cheek. Yet, candidates really should be vetted to determine whether they have deep and dark opinions that will surface during an election and assure their defeat.

6. Demonizing Latin American immigrants is a very bad political strategy: as the group continues to grow rapidly and is more politically astute during each succeeding election. Prop 187 in California, which was passed in 1994 and later declared unconstitutional, was a screening system directed at Hispanics. It also prohibited illegal aliens from using public services. This initiative marked the end of a meaningful GOP presence in the state. In spite of this unfortunate episode, Republicans are going down the same course nationally.

7.“If the argument is that illegal immigrants are overtaxing the welfare system: then that’s an argument for paring back the welfare state, not deporting 12 million people.” Also, illegals take jobs in the country, but who wants to be a maid or a crop worker anyway. Immigration reform is the next major issue that the federal government must deal with.

8.“Running for president should be undertaken only by those with a reasonable chance of winning a general election.” It should not be a career path leading to a “gig” on Fox News. If a candidate gets trounced in a presidential primary why is he or she an ideal person to advise the country as a talking head?

9. A Romney victory would have hurt the GOP in the long run: because he would have been “politically cautious” and “ideologically defensive.” The GOP needs candidates with strong convictions about the most controversial issues.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/19084/2012-...
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As much as the Cons would like to avoid social issues, they are very important to a lot of voters. A candidate cannot ignore them.
Well they need to let go of the abortion issue, live and let live, leave people alone. I like their fiscal policies much, much better than the Dems so I put up with the crazy talk and I figure they won't ever really do anything about it. Reagan promised the far right loons a Constitutional amendment with regards to abortion and then he didn't do it. But this time, people like Santorum scared me. I've never seen nuts like that before. He would have started WWII, started a war with Iran and Russia would have jumped right into it, and he would have locked up women for taking birth control pills. He was far out, really crazy if you ask me. I put up with the nonsense to avoid the Dems big huge spending, their Keynsian economics, the welfare programs, the big government pensions, their bankrupt entitlements. But both parties are so messed up now because the REbpus deny global warming now and want to stay on oil but oil is running out, cheap oil is gone now.

The Dems need to end all of their programs, end all of it, and the Repubs need to stop having wars. "End the welfare/warfare state" - Ron Paul.

Let the Dems deal with our energy policy and war policies, let the Repubs deal with our entitlements and welfare. That way we wouldn't spend money on wars nor on welfare and we would deal with global warming. That's the best plan.
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CunningLinguist wrote:
2012 Election Results: After Losing Badly, the GOP Must Do 9 Things to Avoid Becoming Extinct
5. The GOP base should demand: that congressional candidates take IQ tests.“There were at least five Senate seats that might have been occupied by a Republican come January had not the invincible stupidity of the candidates stood in the way.” I am sure Stephens’ comment was made tongue in cheek. Yet, candidates really should be vetted to determine whether they have deep and dark opinions that will surface during an election and assure their defeat.
6. Demonizing Latin American immigrants is a very bad political strategy: as the group continues to grow rapidly and is more politically astute during each succeeding election. Prop 187 in California, which was passed in 1994 and later declared unconstitutional, was a screening system directed at Hispanics. It also prohibited illegal aliens from using public services. This initiative marked the end of a meaningful GOP presence in the state. In spite of this unfortunate episode, Republicans are going down the same course nationally.
7.“If the argument is that illegal immigrants are overtaxing the welfare system: then that’s an argument for paring back the welfare state, not deporting 12 million people.” Also, illegals take jobs in the country, but who wants to be a maid or a crop worker anyway. Immigration reform is the next major issue that the federal government must deal with.
8.“Running for president should be undertaken only by those with a reasonable chance of winning a general election.” It should not be a career path leading to a “gig” on Fox News. If a candidate gets trounced in a presidential primary why is he or she an ideal person to advise the country as a talking head?
9. A Romney victory would have hurt the GOP in the long run: because he would have been “politically cautious” and “ideologically defensive.” The GOP needs candidates with strong convictions about the most controversial issues.
http://www.policymic.com/articles/19084/2012-...
I don't know if it is IQ test or sanity tests some of those Tea Party candidates need to take, hold competency hearings maybe??
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Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>I don't know if it is IQ test or sanity tests some of those Tea Party candidates need to take, hold competency hearings maybe??
One thing is certain, unless major changes take place, 2014 will see the remaining republican governors, that attempted voter restrictions and union busting, to be replaced.

The GOP is totally lost. Out of date, time, touch, ideas and answers.

Poor McCain is ranting, vainly attempting to put anything favorable on his less than stunning political career. His 'educated' selection of Sassy Sarah was a 'window' into the GOP mindset.

It is not any surprise that the voters remembered Sarah, viewed the 8 prospects, and found them all laughable.

The election was more than a massive defeat, it was a KO!

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au contraire wrote:
Regenerate is more like it. The establishment has ruined the party with mediocrity and moderates. America needs a clear choice between conservatism and communism.
You mean they have to regerate conservativism, because Republicans are not conservative today.
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The Republican Party in serious trouble. Will they abandon their so called principals to win elections?
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You have to laugh at Republicans when they call themselves conservatives. Republicans are big time liars.
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One thing is certain, unless major changes take place, 2014 will see the remaining republican governors, that attempted voter restrictions and union busting, to be replaced.
The GOP is totally lost. Out of date, time, touch, ideas and answers.
Poor McCain is ranting, vainly attempting to put anything favorable on his less than stunning political career. His 'educated' selection of Sassy Sarah was a 'window' into the GOP mindset.
It is not any surprise that the voters remembered Sarah, viewed the 8 prospects, and found them all laughable.
The election was more than a massive defeat, it was a KO!
WEll they have to get unions out of government jobs. There is a pension tsunami coming with regards to government pensions bankrputing the cities and states, the unfunded liabilities total over $5 trillion. The unions know they are losing. They were run out of the private sector in the 70s and then went into government jobs. No one needs a union to represent you against the taxpayers and the government. And, I see most everyone posting about the government unions, the giant pensions - not only in here - in other websites too, so this is the big issue right now. FDR said unions should not be allowed in government jobs. Everyone else knows they have nothing and never will now cause of Obama getting reelected, so they want the government employees to share in the poverty and misery. Right now they are the ONLY middle class left and they live really fat on the taxpayers and they keep forcing new taxes and higher taxes on the people. They are the privileged untouchables while everyone else is poor and we pay for it.

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??? You really think that 1% outnumbers 99%? If they were makers instead of takers, they wouldn't be called the idle rich. They are obviously the takers, because you can see what they have taken. The workers have not taken much, because as you can see, they don't have much.
Your math is as dumb as your voting habits. 47% don't pay taxes, the rest of us do. The 99% is a prop tool the left and the MSM propagated through out the air waves to create more class envy.

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The Republican Party in serious trouble. Will they abandon their so called principals to win elections?
Why, we are not liberals?
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<quoted text>Why, we are not liberals?
No, that's true, you lack common sense, much less intelligence...LOL
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<quoted text>au contraire, oh mindless one. Trickle up poverty is working so good we see. Are you out of candy already? Did Obama take it with him on his kissy touchy tour to bribe Asia?
"Based on Census Bureau estimates, the nation’s white population, which was 85 percent in 1960 and 63 percent in 2011, will drop to minority status, about 47 percent, in 2050. Latino population, only 3.5 percent in 1960 and 17 percent last year, is projected to rise to 29 percent by then, while Asian-Americans, less than one percent 52 years ago and 5 percent last year, is seen as rising to 9 percent in 2050. The trend of fast-rising Latino population is happening in other traditionally Republican states such as Arizona and Texas."
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au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>Your math is as dumb as your voting habits. 47% don't pay taxes, the rest of us do. The 99% is a prop tool the left and the MSM propagated through out the air waves to create more class envy.
Newsflash with real facts about really happened in the real world for all the delusional racist white men who think Obama was in a "desperate election" or that "welfare puerto ricans" won him Florida. The ONLY ethnic group where Romney lead was white men. "Republicans have won the white vote in every presidential election since 1964, and that continued Tuesday with Romney beating Obama by 20 points, 59 percent to 39 percent, according to exit polls. Obama won 80 percent of the minority vote, which, besides Latinos, included African Americans, 13 percent of turnout, the same as 2008, and Asian-Americans, who were 3 percent of the vote, up a point from the last election. President Barack Obama on Tuesday won a whopping 71% of the Latino vote, up from 67% in 2008. By contrast, John Kerry only managed to get about 53% of the Latino vote in 2004 when he lost in his bid to unseat President George W. Bush, according to publicly available exit polls. In Colorado, he captured three-quarters of Hispanic voters, up from 61 percent in 2008. He also improved his Hispanic performance in Florida, a result that included dominance of the heavily Puerto Rican swing precincts around Orlando and the election of a Cuban American Democrat to Congress, symbolizing the end of the GOP’s decades-long lock on that community. In 2012, the share of the Latino vote rose to a record high 10%, a number that’s doubled in the past 16 years. President Obama won about 8.4 million Latino votes, using a rough calculation based on exit-poll data. Romney captured no more than 3.44 million votes. In Iowa and New Hampshire, states without big minority populations, Obama won by gaining the support of nearly six in 10 women. Obama won 71% of the Asian-American vote. From the exit polls, President Obama’s support from men slipped a few points from 49% four years ago, but women supported the president over Romney by 55% to 44%."
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au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>Your math is as dumb as your voting habits. 47% don't pay taxes, the rest of us do. The 99% is a prop tool the left and the MSM propagated through out the air waves to create more class envy.
With the exception of New Mexico, the ten poorest states all voted for Romney. So much for out of touch Mitten's nitwit theory about losing due to "gifts from Obama."
1. Mississippi
2. West Virginia
3. Arkansas
4. Kentucky
5. Alabama
6. Tennessee
7. Louisiana
8. New Mexico (Blue)
9. South Carolina
10. Oklahoma

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