Police shoot driver outside Capitol a...

Police shoot driver outside Capitol after chase

There are 184 comments on the Yahoo! story from Oct 3, 2013, titled Police shoot driver outside Capitol after chase. In it, Yahoo! reports that:

A woman driving a black Infiniti with a young child inside tried to ram through a White House barricade Thursday, then led police on a chase toward the Capitol, where police shot and killed her, witnesses and officials said.

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xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#146 Oct 5, 2013
Undercover Cop Stood By As Bikers Beat SUV Driver During Motorcycle Attack: Report
The Huffington Post | By Sara Gates
Posted: 10/05/2013 11:41 am EDT | Updated: 10/05/2013 2:17 pm EDT

Undercover police officers may have been riding with the pack of bikers that beat up 33-year-old Alexian Lien, the SUV driver who struck a motorcyclist on the West Side Highway Sunday.

According to multiple reports, at least one undercover cop stood by during the attack as bikers caught up to the Range Rover miles later and pulled Lien from the vehicle. The officer allegedly did not intervene when the bikers began beating the driver in order to maintain his cover.

Sources told The New York Post that the undercover officer did not come forward until Wednesday night. He reportedly turned in his gun and badge Friday and has been placed on modified duty.

However, there may have been others who witnessed the assault. As WABC-TV reports, there were five off-duty NYPD officers among the group of bikers who were taking part in the rally and at least two detectives were on the scene when the bikers caught up to Lien's vehicle.

Internal Affairs is currently investigating whether there were other undercover or off-duty officers riding in the rally.

The cop who came forward was reportedly a motorcycle hobbyist who rides with Front Line Soldiers, a club based in New Rochelle. Though the undercover officer was apparently not investigating the group, he nonetheless did not want to reveal his identity.

According to The Daily News, the officer left the scene of the attack after he knew police were on the way and passersby were assisting Lien.

One of the bikers, Christopher Cruz, who was involved in the initial collision that led to the assault, was arrested earlier this week. He was was charged with reckless endangerment, reckless driving, endangering the welfare of a child, and menacing.

Days later, on Friday, two others involved in the attack turned themselves in to authorities. Brooklyn resident Robert Sims, 35, who is seen in footage filmed at the scene, faces several charges including gang assault and criminal possession of a weapon. Another biker, 38-year-old Reginald Chance, also surrendered and was questioned by police Friday night.

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Who can you trust anymore these days?
ima-Ilis Myka Ashanti

El Paso, TX

#147 Oct 5, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
Undercover Cop Stood By As Bikers Beat SUV Driver During Motorcycle Attack: Report
The Huffington Post | By Sara Gates
Posted: 10/05/2013 11:41 am EDT | Updated: 10/05/2013 2:17 pm EDT
Undercover police officers may have been riding with the pack of bikers that beat up 33-year-old Alexian Lien, the SUV driver who struck a motorcyclist on the West Side Highway Sunday.
According to multiple reports, at least one undercover cop stood by during the attack as bikers caught up to the Range Rover miles later and pulled Lien from the vehicle. The officer allegedly did not intervene when the bikers began beating the driver in order to maintain his cover.
Sources told The New York Post that the undercover officer did not come forward until Wednesday night. He reportedly turned in his gun and badge Friday and has been placed on modified duty.
However, there may have been others who witnessed the assault. As WABC-TV reports, there were five off-duty NYPD officers among the group of bikers who were taking part in the rally and at least two detectives were on the scene when the bikers caught up to Lien's vehicle.
Internal Affairs is currently investigating whether there were other undercover or off-duty officers riding in the rally.
The cop who came forward was reportedly a motorcycle hobbyist who rides with Front Line Soldiers, a club based in New Rochelle. Though the undercover officer was apparently not investigating the group, he nonetheless did not want to reveal his identity.
According to The Daily News, the officer left the scene of the attack after he knew police were on the way and passersby were assisting Lien.
One of the bikers, Christopher Cruz, who was involved in the initial collision that led to the assault, was arrested earlier this week. He was was charged with reckless endangerment, reckless driving, endangering the welfare of a child, and menacing.
Days later, on Friday, two others involved in the attack turned themselves in to authorities. Brooklyn resident Robert Sims, 35, who is seen in footage filmed at the scene, faces several charges including gang assault and criminal possession of a weapon. Another biker, 38-year-old Reginald Chance, also surrendered and was questioned by police Friday night.
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Who can you trust anymore these days?
under this present regime, we can't trust the anointed one so where does that leave anyone else especially his followers? Our country is in great trouble but getting back to the topic of this thread I cannot understand why this woman was shot as she was, really I think this was uncalled for and if anything her tires should've been shot at....something isn't right here. Why has the messiah not commented, Sharpton? J. Jackson? most of these cops were white shooting at her. Bet they all have had to staple their mouths shut for fear of starting up another racial uproar as the messiah did when Zimmerman shot the kid. I'm not a racist, I'm hispanic but what these police did doesn't appear to be right in the least especially since she had a child in the car. Imagine what this innocent baby went through, brought on by her/his distraught mother? and then to hear all the shots and yelling from the delirious police. Are they that inept that they couldn't have handled it different? I know one of them was hit by the car but then and there they should have shot it's tires.
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#148 Oct 5, 2013
ima-Ilis Myka Ashanti wrote:
<quoted text> under this present regime, we can't trust the anointed one so where does that leave anyone else especially his followers? Our country is in great trouble but getting back to the topic of this thread I cannot understand why this woman was shot as she was, really I think this was uncalled for and if anything her tires should've been shot at....something isn't right here. Why has the messiah not commented, Sharpton? J. Jackson? most of these cops were white shooting at her. Bet they all have had to staple their mouths shut for fear of starting up another racial uproar as the messiah did when Zimmerman shot the kid. I'm not a racist, I'm hispanic but what these police did doesn't appear to be right in the least especially since she had a child in the car. Imagine what this innocent baby went through, brought on by her/his distraught mother? and then to hear all the shots and yelling from the delirious police. Are they that inept that they couldn't have handled it different? I know one of them was hit by the car but then and there they should have shot it's tires.
With that comment, I can only quote Geraldo on Bill O' last night when he said "People are asking why the police didn't shoot out the tires. Look...... this isn't a move. This is a real live tragic event. Shooting at tires would be the most foolish thing in the world because bullets bounce off of cement."

Or something like that.

I would be willing to bet that the police couldn't see any child in the car. Even if they did, they probably figured the child has a better chance at survival if they stop the mother than if they allow her to continue driving that way.

In the new world of potential terrorism in the US, nobody knew who this woman was, where she was from, what was inside of the car or trunk, what her motive was. Police did what they thought was best. No cop wants to shoot anybody--especially a mentally deranged woman.

All of the things that took place that day will eventually unfold as new information slowly becomes available. What I think they will find is that police gave her an order to stop the car and don't move in which she jumped out of the car. The worst thing you can do is not listen to the orders of the police. It often ends up tragically.
michelbottier

Switzerland

#149 Oct 5, 2013
Responsibility wrote:
<quoted text>
Dear, so can scissors.
But guns are more efficient, quicker, easy to obtain and kill very efficiently.
So can comprehensive ignorance such as that which you exhibit apparently without shame. Do you think that it is more difficult to buy a car or a gun? Are there more people killed in the United States each year in car accidents or by gun violence?

On a national level ignorance such as yours has repercussions far more dangerous than those caused by random acts of gun violence committed by criminals.
Cat74

United States

#150 Oct 6, 2013
I changed my mind about the shooting. We cannot take a chance on a car full of dynamite, or worse. I don't approve of much of what President Obama wants to do to our country, but this woman was a threat, and had to be dealt with.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#151 Oct 6, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
I still don't understand how the driver was such a threat she need to be killed. Is Obama that trigger happy? What is he so afraid of? What if he had sacrificed the child as well? There has to be more to this story.
Don't worry, it will be announced today that a special panel (that never meets) will be established to see why it took 7 police firing semi automatic .40 cal. bullets to stop her. I suspect these 7 should be first on the furlough list.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#152 Oct 6, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
I changed my mind about the shooting. We cannot take a chance on a car full of dynamite, or worse. I don't approve of much of what President Obama wants to do to our country, but this woman was a threat, and had to be dealt with.
Very true, but it is fun to see if these was a white women, Jesse, Al and a host of the Black Caucus would be going stomp stomp stomp at the racially motivated DC police.
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#153 Oct 6, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
I changed my mind about the shooting. We cannot take a chance on a car full of dynamite, or worse. I don't approve of much of what President Obama wants to do to our country, but this woman was a threat, and had to be dealt with.
Exactly. Remember our second largest terrorist attack was by an American and he only used one U-Haul truck.
Responsibility

Petaluma, CA

#154 Oct 6, 2013
michelbottier wrote:
<quoted text>
repercussions far more dangerous than those caused by random acts of gun violence committed by criminals.
Dear - never acted in violence, never needed a gun and the only "dangerous" side to folks like me are that they are disgusted by our violent society, disgusted by how many of our folks get killed each year (yes by guns) and trying to figure out why some of you folks are so paranoid that you need a handful of guns.

If you think that is "dangerous" thinking, you might want to look in the dictionary.
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#155 Oct 6, 2013
Responsibility wrote:
<quoted text>
Dear - never acted in violence, never needed a gun and the only "dangerous" side to folks like me are that they are disgusted by our violent society, disgusted by how many of our folks get killed each year (yes by guns) and trying to figure out why some of you folks are so paranoid that you need a handful of guns.
Nobody needs a gun until they are attacked. But if you don't have one to defend yourself, then you'll wish you did.

If the liberals were able to take over the entire federal government and the Supreme court, and then outlawed guns totally, you would see a great increase in murders and violence. That's why we need our guns. Like narcotics, the only people that would have guns would be the criminals.

This is the case in states and cities that resist gun ownership by citizens. Before our CCW laws passed, I used to read stories about people getting killed over the five bucks in their pocket or the sneakers they were wearing. Today a criminal has to ask himself if that five dollars or sneakers is worth the risk of getting killed himself.

After people started carrying their guns, there was a dramatic decrease in car jackings and ATM robberies. Some of those ATM robberies ended up in death.

The point here is that if you are so worried about deaths caused by guns, the only way to reduce those deaths is to have law biding citizens having guns and the legal ability to use them.

“PRESIDENT TRUMP & VP PENCE”

Since: Mar 09

WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

#156 Oct 6, 2013
Schizos should be segregated from the community. Their PSYCHOlogist and their families have a responsibility to society to inform the proper authorities that the person is a threat to others and themselves.

The dumb ass Obama and Sebellius should be pushing for this but they're so focused on pushing Obama's quack care while the schizos are running amok shooting innocent people.
pedro j castillo

Juárez, Mexico

#157 Oct 6, 2013
all cops shud dye , I hate amerikans [email protected] I work in monterrey mexico at frysa grupo cassol
Cat74

United States

#158 Oct 6, 2013
Crime rates went down in every city, and state where Conceal carry, or open carry was enacted. You are right, criminals have 2nd thoughts about attempting to steal from someone who might be armed.
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#159 Oct 6, 2013
American_Infidel wrote:
Schizos should be segregated from the community. Their PSYCHOlogist and their families have a responsibility to society to inform the proper authorities that the person is a threat to others and themselves.
The dumb ass Obama and Sebellius should be pushing for this but they're so focused on pushing Obama's quack care while the schizos are running amok shooting innocent people.
The real problem started years ago when the libs were complaining mental institutions were crime-less prisons.

A word you seldom hear today is "committed." Years ago when the police or a family member suspected a person not right in the head, it was taken to court where a judge committed such people. After this push came along, the mental institutions had to unlock their doors and these unfortunate people are still out there--many homeless people.

Today it's very difficult to have somebody committed or institutionalized in any way with the exception of the mentally retarded. As far as liberals are concerned, terrorists and mentally challenged people have Constitutional rights too.

“A Frog's Worst Nightmare”

Since: Oct 13

West Monroe, La

#160 Oct 7, 2013
sandy1 wrote:
<quoted text>
This has absolutely nothing to do with the shutdown. This poor woman was hospitalized twice, she was delusional and suffering from postpartum depression. You can't blame the GOP for this sad situation.
I blame her kin-folk. Down here in the Holler we take care of our own. Where was the baby-daddy or those fancy-schmancy sisters of hers?
sandy1

Southold, NY

#161 Oct 7, 2013
Uncle Si wrote:
<quoted text>I blame her kin-folk. Down here in the Holler we take care of our own. Where was the baby-daddy or those fancy-schmancy sisters of hers?
Good question. Whether or not we get the answer remains to be seen.
CBOW

Dover, PA

#162 Oct 7, 2013
fox-KKK-news wrote:
<quoted text>
Because of job loss and no access to WIC program to feed her toddler because of GOP sequester and government shutdown...
Nah, it was because Odumbo was stalking her.....her own words. Definitely a libturd.
Cat74

United States

#163 Oct 7, 2013
The woman was a Dental tech. She better not be getting free stuff. She better have paid taxes like the rest of us. Too bad Obama stalked the poor thing. I wonder why she thought he did. Don't you think it is odd that in the last 2 weeks the Government has killed 2 black people they said were delusional?
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Nome

Baltimore, MD

#165 Nov 16, 2013
Responsibility wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps we should blame the Tooth Fairy or should it be Santa?
You guys are nuts.
So are you statists.
Nome

Baltimore, MD

#166 Nov 16, 2013
Responsibility wrote:
<quoted text>
Dear, cars are not built to kill and car drivers should have some knowledge to be able to drive and have a license and insurance.
It seems any paranoid tom, paranoid dick and paranoid harry can own a gun. Luckily Suzie Q in this instance didn't have own.
See the difference, dear friend?
Dear, cars are used as weapons often and for something not built to kill, a lot of people die in them. A license is a privilege. Do you not know the difference between a right and a privilege?
I guess for one as dense as yourself, logic escapes you.

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