Philippines cyber law slammed

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ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#1 Oct 3, 2012
Catholics priests, nuns, and Protestant ministers are now in danger of being committed to jail!!! For they are tops in doing fabrications, gossips, demeaning, despoiling, bullying, and other acts of cyber crimes against others in the minority religions!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#2 Oct 3, 2012
Only the ill-mannered Roman Catholics and Protestants are against the Cyber Crime Prevention Law!!! They are against it because their brains operate under the dictate of the Old Serpent!!!

In every blog site, the absence of good manners and right conduct are too apparent from Catholic and Protestant posters!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
Kiwi Thumper

Upper Coomera, Australia

#3 Oct 3, 2012
you really are off your rocker another thread with the same old fcuking rubbish does what i put up mention what you have stated drone

Philippines cyber law slammed

Manila - The Philippine government faced a barrage of protests on Wednesday as a cybercrime law went into effect that critics said had imposed dictator-style monitoring and policing of the internet.

Major news outlets, bloggers, rights groups and other critics turned their social media profile pages black to express outrage over the law, which could see people face long jail terms for posting defamatory comments online.

Thousand of furious tweets were posted on Twitter, with the hashtag #notocybercrimelaw becoming the top trend on the microblogging site in the Philippines on Wednesday.

"This law works against ordinary netizens and disregards, among other things, our right to privacy and freedom of expression," tweeted Noemi Dado, a prominent Manila blogger who edits a citizen media site called Blog Watch.

Senator Teofisto Guingona, one of the few members of parliament who opposed the bill that President Benigno Aquino signed into law last month, also stepped up his campaign to have it overturned.

"The implementation of the law... will take back our citizens to the Dark Ages where freedom of speech and expression were not recognised," he said in a statement.

Up to 12 years in jail

Many provisions of the cybercrime law aim to fight a range of online crimes not deemed controversial, such as fraud, identity theft, spamming and child pornography.

However one provision makes any libellous comments posted online a criminal offence, with a penalty of up to 12 years in jail, much tougher than for traditional media.
Kiwi Thumper

Upper Coomera, Australia

#4 Oct 3, 2012
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
Only the ill-mannered Roman Catholics and Protestants are against the Cyber Crime Prevention Law!!! They are against it because their brains operate under the dictate of the Old Serpent!!!
In every blog site, the absence of good manners and right conduct are too apparent from Catholic and Protestant posters!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
only ill mannered drone hear is you dipshit really are we know going to have to read the same old crap drone your brain operates under the false teachings of felix manalo who is nothing but a fales messiah
Kiwi Thumper

Upper Coomera, Australia

#5 Oct 3, 2012
yes drone you really are fcuked in the head pull on one of your leaders knobs you will feel better

Philippines cyber law slammed

Equally controversially, the Department of Justice also now has the power to close down websites and monitor online activities, such as e-mail, instant messaging or video chats, without a warrant.

The Philippines has had one of Asia's most vibrant democracies and robust media environments since a people power revolution led by Aquino's mother toppled dictator Ferdinand Marcos in 1986.

Social media has also flourished in recent years. Nearly a third of the population of 100 million people has access to the internet, and 96% of Filipino netizens use Facebook, according to industry figures.

But critics of the law have said it echoes tactics to silence and monitor dissenters employed by Marcos when he imposed martial law in the 1970s.

Government websites hacked

"The Cybercrime Prevention Act of 2012 is the worst assault on free expression since Ferdinand Marcos declared martial law," Luis Teodoro, a journalism professor at the University of the Philippines, wrote in a blog.

Joaquin Bernas, a Jesuit priest and lawyer who helped draft the country's post-dictatorship constitution in 1987, voiced similar sentiments in an article published this week outlining his concerns about the law.

"There are very valid reasons for being frightened by this," Bernas wrote in the Philippine Daily Inquirer, highlighting the government's new authority to monitor and close down suspect websites without a warrant.

"I for one recall the law on search and seizure in effect during the past martial law period."

Aquino's spokespeople have repeatedly defended the law as necessary to fight cybercrime, while insisting his administration would uphold freedom of speech online.

They also said a spate of hacking on government websites in protest over the law highlighted the need for it.

Petitions filed

Petitions filed

But amid the backlash, some of the politicians who voted for the bill said they were willing to get rid of the controversial provisions.

"At the end, we should be humble enough to admit we may have made a mistake and we can still amend the law," said Congressman Sonny Angara, whose father, Senator Edgardo Angara, authored the cybercrime bill.

Critics have also filed petitions to the Supreme Court calling on it to rule that the law is unconstitutional.
Denz

Quezon City, Philippines

#6 Oct 3, 2012
cmple.. in america there is such thing cyber crimes, compared here... cyber crime is such an over acting dipshit law...
excartpuller

Saint Paul, MN

#7 Oct 3, 2012
They can't be serious about this thre's a whole lot ofn serious crimes and social infra structures to focus on and they add cyber policing?
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excartpuller

Saint Paul, MN

#11 Oct 3, 2012
Abdul_ wrote:
<quoted text>
The one who is sponsoring this law doesn't know what he's doing.
He's a moron and ignorant about internet freedom. He should be put in jail and let him rot there.
Well that is definitely dictatorship. The flips must have been talking to god again if you know what I mean.
Martin Nuke

Philippines

#12 Oct 3, 2012
Maybe this would be like the Great Firewall of China.
Kiwi Thumper

Australia

#13 Oct 4, 2012
Guingona: Implementing rules won't correct illegal provisions in cybercrime law

MANILA -- Justice Secretary Leila de Lima and Senator Teofisto Guingona III took different positions whether the contentious provisions on online libel and control on computer data in the Internet under the Cybercrime Prevention Act of 2012 may be remedied by coming up with polished rules.

De Lima on Wednesday said they will take into consideration the negative feedback in the crafting of the implementing rules and regulations, which is set to be finished by December.

But Guingona disagreed, saying the Supreme Court must first resolve the nine petitions questioning the law's constitutionality.

"The law itself has provisions that are unconstitutional and they cannot be corrected by IRR. They should first be declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court and then we can make amendments," he said in a chance interview.

Senators Francis Escudero, Gregorio Honasan II and Jinggoy Estrada have already filed bills seeking to decriminalize libel, which has stiffer penalties under the anti-cybercrime law. Taking this route, however, will eat up a lot of time, having to go through the committee hearings and debates in both houses of Congress, said Guingona.

"The important part now is what route is the fastest way and we believed that the Supreme Court is the fastest way because the rights of the citizens, of individuals are affected and therefore the sooner we have the laws with pertinent provisions of the laws declared unconstitutional the better. The better for all of us, the better for all the citizens of this country," he said.

Opponents of the law called on the SC to issue a temporary restraining order against it as they hit it for violating the constitutional provisions on due process, equal protection of the law, double jeopardy and prohibition on illegal seizure.

Petitions filed by the National Union of Journalists of the Philippines (NUJP) and the Ateneo Human Rights Center even asked for oral arguments to guide the justices in resolving the case. The SC will take up the matter on Tuesday next week.

"Judicial wisdom dictates that the SC intervenes and at least temporarily stops the implementation of the law given the very wide opposition to it until the contentious issues on its legality and constitutionality have been fully resolved. It is unfortunate that the SC chooses not to exercise its discretion and this is to detrimental to public interest," said think tank Ibon Foundation.

The law has already triggered protests from online users including hackers who have taken down several government websites since last week.
Kiwi Thumper

Australia

#14 Oct 4, 2012
Media groups to file 'e-petition' vs cybercrime law

MANILA (Updated, 9:04 a.m.)-- The first day of implementation of the controversial Cybercrime Prevention Act of 2012 will be met with another petition questioning its constitutionality before the Supreme Court.

Set to be filed by the National Union of Journalists of the Philippines (NUJP) at 1 p.m. Wednesday, the petition was signed online by at least 211 individuals and 12 different media outfits and watchdogs.

These are the Philippine Center for Investigative Journalism, Center for Community Journalism and Development, Peace and Conflict Journalism Network Philippines, Philippine Center for Photojournalism; ABS-CBN/ABS-CBNNews.com, GMA-7/GMA News Online, Rappler.com , Mindanews, Philippine Daily Inquirer, Interaksyon.com , Sun.Star, Daily Tribune, Malaya/Business Insight, VERA Files, and Far Eastern Broadcasting Corporation, among others.

"The media organizations leading this initiative believe that through this petition, the Philippine media are taking a collective stand and asserting their voice against Republlic Act 10175, using the very medium the law seeks to constrict," the NUJP said.

On Tuesday, the SC said it has deferred the deliberation of the petitions to next week, sparking disappointment among those who are pushing for a restraining order prior to the law's implementation.

The petitions specifically challenged the constitutionality of Sections 4, 5, 6, 7, 19 and 20 of the law, which were seen as violations of freedom of speech, right to privacy, illegal searches and seizures and double jeopardy.

The insertion of provisions regarding online libel and vague sections on data collection and sanctions were also slammed by media groups for leaning towards censorship.(Virgil Lopez/Sunnex)
Kiwi Thumper

Australia

#15 Oct 4, 2012
Journalists, rights center file opposition to cybercrime law

MANILA (2nd Update, 4:06 p.m.)-- The first day of implementation of the controversial Cybercrime Prevention Act of 2012 was met with two petitions questioning its constitutionality before the Supreme Court.

The petitions were separately filed by the Ateneo Human Rights Center and the National Union of Journalists of the Philippines (NUJP), whose request for temporary restraining order was signed online by at least 211 individuals and 12 different media outfits and watchdogs.

These are the Philippine Center for Investigative Journalism, Center for Community Journalism and Development, Peace and Conflict Journalism Network Philippines, Philippine Center for Photojournalism; ABS-CBN/ABS-CBNNews.com, GMA-7/GMA News Online, Rappler.com , Mindanews, Philippine Daily Inquirer, Interaksyon.com , Sun.Star, Daily Tribune, Malaya/Business Insight, VERA Files, and Far Eastern Broadcasting Corporation, among others.

Listed respondents in the petition are Executive Secretary Paquito Ochoa, Interior Secretary Manuel Roxas II, Justice Secretary Leila de Lima, the National Bureau of Investigation, the Philippine National Police and the Cybercrime Investigation and the Cybercrime Investigation and Coordinating Center, among others.

NUJP Et Al v ES petition vs cybercrime law
ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#16 Oct 4, 2012
Kiwi Thumper wrote:
you really are off your rocker another thread with the same old fcuking rubbish does what i put up mention what you have stated drone
Philippines cyber law slammed
Manila - The Philippine government faced a barrage of protests on Wednesday as a cybercrime law went into effect that critics said had imposed dictator-style monitoring and policing of the internet.
Major news outlets, bloggers, rights groups and other critics turned their social media profile pages black to express outrage over the law, which could see people face long jail terms for posting defamatory comments online.
Thousand of furious tweets were posted on Twitter, with the hashtag #notocybercrimelaw becoming the top trend on the microblogging site in the Philippines on Wednesday.
"This law works against ordinary netizens and disregards, among other things, our right to privacy and freedom of expression," tweeted Noemi Dado, a prominent Manila blogger who edits a citizen media site called Blog Watch.
Senator Teofisto Guingona, one of the few members of parliament who opposed the bill that President Benigno Aquino signed into law last month, also stepped up his campaign to have it overturned.
"The implementation of the law... will take back our citizens to the Dark Ages where freedom of speech and expression were not recognised," he said in a statement.
Up to 12 years in jail
Many provisions of the cybercrime law aim to fight a range of online crimes not deemed controversial, such as fraud, identity theft, spamming and child pornography.
However one provision makes any libellous comments posted online a criminal offence, with a penalty of up to 12 years in jail, much tougher than for traditional media.
Kiwi Trashed,

Ill-mannered Catholics, Protestants, and atheists will now have to exercise civility when posting!!! The law is now teaching them to behave within the context of civilized society and not in accordance with the mandate of satan, their role model!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#17 Oct 4, 2012
Abdul_ wrote:
<quoted text>
The lunatic and insane Church of Christ Elias Ibarra is now a loose cannon and
want to blame other churches for the church of christ failure to attract more members. The Filipinos nowadays are more sophisticated, and they know church of Christ is doing its
best to tarnish the good image of other churches by claiming that its only the Church of Christ could save the soul of sinners. And they think the members becomes saints once they 're member of this sect.
If a member a member can't give contribution the their church, the member is ridiculed in front of everybody and you call that the best church in town?
Abdul,

From July 27, 2011 up to the end of September 12, 2012, 200 grandiose and beautiful chapels were dedicated to God by the Iglesia ni Cristo after these had been constructed!!! Of course, those chapels purchased from the Catholic and Protestant cults because of their empty pews are not included in the count!!! This only shows the victorious stature of the Iglesia ni Cristo all over the world!!!

The Iglesia ni Cristo even before the advent of the anti-cyber crime laws has fully conformed to the tenets of society by adhering to civility when dealing with blogs!!! This is not the quality of the brbaric Catholics, Protestants, and atheists!!! They still want to go after each others throat!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
Kiwi Thumper

Australia

#18 Oct 4, 2012
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
<quoted text>
Kiwi Trashed,
Ill-mannered Catholics, Protestants, and atheists will now have to exercise civility when posting!!! The law is now teaching them to behave within the context of civilized society and not in accordance with the mandate of satan, their role model!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
you really are screwed in the head hey drone yes drone ill mannered INC memembers and their ministers will have to exercise civility when posting

same old crap from a deluded drone who has take on that fales doctrine to the point were he has to be hear deffending that fales prophet of his

hey drone tell us were you fales prophet is today is he in heaven or is he in hell ?

dipshit do you honestly think your going to win us over with the crap your so use to leaving in this forum

i am laughing at what you are leaving in this forum drone keep up the good work i am sure that your false prophet will reward you for the way your defending him
DarkWonderer

Cebu, Philippines

#19 Oct 4, 2012
I dont know why this so called elected politician who suppose to listen to the majority of the people. opposing and creating a none sense bill that prevents freedom of speach... I know some part of the BILL IS GOOD IN PROTECTING CHILDREN and women. but we have already have a bill that protect them you just need to amend and impliment the bill in a good way.... its just a waste of money... the money that is collected in the pockets of each and every individuals that pay tax.

If you want to help The Filipino People help them in the way that we really need.
DarkWonderer

Cebu, Philippines

#20 Oct 4, 2012
To The politicians heres some list for you to reflect.

- infrustracture(road, canals, drainage system, street lights)

- health (marami kayong matutulungan na mahihirap if you can improved the regional hospitals)

- peace and order (andaming rubyboys now a days on the streets)

marami pang iba...

help the people in addressing thier needs not your needs.
ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#21 Oct 5, 2012
Kiwi Thumper wrote:
<quoted text>
you really are screwed in the head hey drone yes drone ill mannered INC memembers and their ministers will have to exercise civility when posting
same old crap from a deluded drone who has take on that fales doctrine to the point were he has to be hear deffending that fales prophet of his
hey drone tell us were you fales prophet is today is he in heaven or is he in hell ?
dipshit do you honestly think your going to win us over with the crap your so use to leaving in this forum
i am laughing at what you are leaving in this forum drone keep up the good work i am sure that your false prophet will reward you for the way your defending him
Kiwi Trashed,

The Iglesia ni Cristo is winning on all fronts!!! Had we failed, then, there is no need for us to construct and purchase beautiful and grandiose chapels!!!

Only the Iglesia Ni Cristo is bringing true worship and true Christianity to Japan, India, and China!!! We just bought a multi-storey building in Japan to house the office of our Northeast Asia Ecclesiastical District!!! And mind you, some Japanese exchange students have had visited the I.N.C. Central Temple and Museum Gallery!!! They will now proceed to the burgeoning Iglesia Ni Cristo congregations in the Land of the Rising Sun to listen to Bible Studies on doctrines!!!

LOCAL CONGREGATION----------PREVIOUS OWNER----------SIZE OF COMPOUND----------CAPACITY OF MAIN WORSHIP HALL

SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA-----FIRST CHURCH OF CHRIST SCIENTISTS----------40, 510 SQUARE FEET----------300

PHOENIX, ARIZONA----------ARIZONA KOREAN PREBYTERIAN CHURCH----------5.4 ACRES----------300

HOUSTON, TEXAS----------GRACE FELLOWSHIP BIBLE CHURCH----------13.3 ACRES----------400

BRONX, NEW YORK----------EVANGELICAL LUTHERAN CHURCH IN AMERICA---15,200 SQUARE FEET----------294

LA MOTTE, IOWA----------CATHOLIC CHURCH----------2.63 ACRES----------300

BELLMORE, NEW YORK----------WANTAGH MORTON LODGE----------13,800 SQUARE METERS----------200

LAKEWOOD, WASHINGTON----------TACOMA CHURCH OF GOD----------3.75 ACRES----------220

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

Derek

Bangkok, Thailand

#22 Oct 6, 2012
Another moronic law passed by the pathetic Philippine government. Why do filipinos continually elect and support mindless imbeciles, based on their family name or local popularity.

The Philippine will continue being a dysfunctional cesspool until its people wake up.
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ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#24 Oct 7, 2012
Derek wrote:
Another moronic law passed by the pathetic Philippine government. Why do filipinos continually elect and support mindless imbeciles, based on their family name or local popularity.
The Philippine will continue being a dysfunctional cesspool until its people wake up.
Derek,

Political dynasty is not only a Philippine problem for the matter is true all over the world!!! Under Catholic and Protestant colonial paradigms, you can be powerful if you brush elbows with the elite!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

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