Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

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Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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sassyjm

Lake Grove, NY

#315427 Nov 11, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text> Of course it is.
<quoted text> Careful there, sweetmeat - angry women are unfeminine...remember... Butch?
<quoted text>Eliminating gas from the digestive system is a HUMAN thing to do. If you don't do it in public, I suggest you remove the cork. Otherwise, you might explode.
<quoted text>Boy, is THAT ever debatable. If you have 'class', I don't want it.
<quoted text>Why don't you try using them for a change, frumpy?
<quoted text>Do you shave because it's socially acceptable, or because your pit hair tends to get snagged in your bra straps if you don't?
You do know a man invented bras, so that women's breasts would be perennially perky, and to make them appear nipple-less, so he wouldn't get a hard on around his sister, right?

""""Elimin ating gas from the digestive system is a HUMAN thing to do."""" "

So is pooping but I don't go around pooping on the floor in front of people. Neither do most sane people.

""""" "If you don't do it in public, I suggest you remove the cork. Otherwise, you might explode""" "

Should I poop in front of people if I feel like I am going to explode?

You want to know if I shave my armpits? Yes,daily and not because it gets "stuck in my bra". LOL WTF? why does your hair grow that long enough to get stuck? mine doesn't even get past a stuble.

No,I didn't know why bra's were invented. All I know is that I started wearing one to lift up my big boobs. It DOES help ;)
Ink

Levittown, PA

#315428 Nov 11, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
It's not a baby at all before birth, it's a fetus.
Yes, I know you'd like to pretend that you making stupid statements doesn't matter, but it really does.
The baby is a fetus before birth but still the same human being.
sassyjm

Lake Grove, NY

#315429 Nov 11, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>You mean you don't WANT to read their stories.
(Remainder of your post trimmed for excessive horseshit content)
I actually have read a few. It's sad. It's a tragedy that women are faced with such anti-human tactics because they can't be bothered mothering their child or adopting him/her out.

The worst are the young girls who are coerced/forced by parents to abort or by a bf when they are so scared,desperate and vulnerable. I feel so sorry that nobody cares about her. They are the saddest stories to hear about ESPECIALLY in person.

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#315430 Nov 11, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok - I get your point, and can understand your frustration. You've atleast arrived at a place few go, and there is no answer to the question. God was, is, and ever will be. He knows all things, past, present, future, but "we" don't.
So John I'll ask you this, would you be willing to simply go anywhere quite, and sit, bow, stand, whatever, and with all that is in you, ask God to reveal Himself to you. Now you must be willing to give up any and all that He would want you to.
Do you not think that if there was a God who flung the stars out, and named each one, and created all, that He don't have the power to answer you, if you approach this God, the way one must. Just as you are. He's not impressed with how "good" you've been. He's not depressed with how "bad" you've been. According to His Word, He's impressed with those who are willing to put their all on what His Son did for them.
I could ask you where did God come from?
Where did the dot that exploded come from?
How does the sun burn and burn but never burn up, for thousands of years. Millions or billions, if you believe some teaching., which is way more impressive.
Good afternoon "Gtown."
You certainly have passion, and your conviction is quite evident in the way you express your "becoming saved."
You can of course ask, "Where did God come from?" but that would be an exercise in futility; those whose convictions are as great as yours can't provide an answer and clearly don't require one...they rely on faith. Those who don't believe as you do can't answer because there is no definitive evidence for the existence of such a being and, as such, they may take this lack of evidence as "proof" of God's nonexistence.
Admittedly, I do not believe in the concept of God as you do. The Abrahamic God of Judaism, Christianity and Islam is not a deity that I subscribe to. However what I find especially fascinating about these three religions is that they're able to simultaneously bring out the best and the worst in those who adhere to them. Granted, it can be argued that this is the case with all religions; anything that ignites such passion in people is bound to unleash those passions from time to time.
I can, however, give you a brief explanation of how the sun works. It, like all stars, requires a balance between its internal forces called hydrostatic equilibrium. One force, which holds the sun together, comes from its own gravity. The second, which prevents it from collapsing, comes from the rapid motion of its atoms which creates pressure. The sun generates its energy by converting hydrogen into helium via a process called nuclear fusion in which two or more nuclei are bonded into a single, heavier one. This process happens in the sun's core because of its extremely high temperature.
As you can tell I was, at one time, rather interested in astronomy. Still am for that matter, which is why I tend to groan inwardly when Biblical Literalists--and I know you happen to be one--state straight-faced that the universe is only a few thousand years old. Folks who hold steadfastly to such don't take into account that it flies in the face of where we find ourselves today via our scientific knowledge. Such a belief effectively negates the sciences of astronomy, chemistry, geology, archaeology, paleontology, evolutionary biology. This is not to say that I haven't met people who dedicate themselves to scientific research and who happen to be deeply religious--I have. They usually tend to take the Book of Genesis more allegorically than literally.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#315431 Nov 11, 2013
Junket wrote:
John the Gymnast! Gtown, it's called "quickening" and women that have given birth are familiar with the sensation. Nothing whatsoever miraculous.
The Holy Spirit infiltrating Mrs. JtB's womb is a different story. Uhm, did Mrs.(or Miss or Ms.) give permission? Cuz if I understand correctly the Virgin was told and the poor sod Joseph was also informed by a choir of angels that they were chosen to raise the son of God. I cannot imagine anyone passing up that honor, can you?
It's been a couple or thousand years since - so what's next? Any guesses?
The whole process of birth is miraculous.

I think plenty of women on this thread would give up that honor.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#315432 Nov 11, 2013
John-K wrote:
<quoted text>
Good afternoon "Gtown."
You certainly have passion, and your conviction is quite evident in the way you express your "becoming saved."
You can of course ask, "Where did God come from?" but that would be an exercise in futility; those whose convictions are as great as yours can't provide an answer and clearly don't require one...they rely on faith. Those who don't believe as you do can't answer because there is no definitive evidence for the existence of such a being and, as such, they may take this lack of evidence as "proof" of God's nonexistence.
Admittedly, I do not believe in the concept of God as you do. The Abrahamic God of Judaism, Christianity and Islam is not a deity that I subscribe to. However what I find especially fascinating about these three religions is that they're able to simultaneously bring out the best and the worst in those who adhere to them. Granted, it can be argued that this is the case with all religions; anything that ignites such passion in people is bound to unleash those passions from time to time.
I can, however, give you a brief explanation of how the sun works. It, like all stars, requires a balance between its internal forces called hydrostatic equilibrium. One force, which holds the sun together, comes from its own gravity. The second, which prevents it from collapsing, comes from the rapid motion of its atoms which creates pressure. The sun generates its energy by converting hydrogen into helium via a process called nuclear fusion in which two or more nuclei are bonded into a single, heavier one. This process happens in the sun's core because of its extremely high temperature.
As you can tell I was, at one time, rather interested in astronomy. Still am for that matter, which is why I tend to groan inwardly when Biblical Literalists--and I know you happen to be one--state straight-faced that the universe is only a few thousand years old. Folks who hold steadfastly to such don't take into account that it flies in the face of where we find ourselves today via our scientific knowledge. Such a belief effectively negates the sciences of astronomy, chemistry, geology, archaeology, paleontology, evolutionary biology. This is not to say that I haven't met people who dedicate themselves to scientific research and who happen to be deeply religious--I have. They usually tend to take the Book of Genesis more allegorically than literally.
Hi John, nice post. Do you think that all believers in God take the Bible literally?
Ink

Levittown, PA

#315433 Nov 11, 2013
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>These particular "Christians" are dishonest women. They must accuse pro-choicers and non-religious people and especially independent women of being angry, unhappy, blah blah blah, because they can't stand the idea that people who don't share their beliefs can enjoy life, be loved and loving, be rewarded with fulfillment. They must delude themselves into believing that independent, free-thinking women aren't capable of happiness. Ridiculous! They have to think that only they can be happy. They are pretty pathetic. All women are different. What about that fact frightens them so, I wonder.
Too bad they don't post like women who are satisfied with life.

Maybe you all could start to show that happiness in your posts.
sassyjm

Lake Grove, NY

#315434 Nov 11, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
The whole process of birth is miraculous.
I think plenty of women on this thread would give up that honor.
I was thrilled to feel my baby move for the first time. What an exciting moment. Yes,the entire pregnancy(despite the throwing up,uncomfortable moments,not being able to tie my shoes lol,etc..)was quite an experience. I bonded with my baby from day one. Feeling them move and grow and then meeting them face to face is fascinating. They're so needy even after birth. It is really amazing(the whole process of life)and birth.

Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#315435 Nov 11, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
The baby is a fetus before birth but still the same human being.
That's your opinion. Here's mine. It's human, but it isn't a human being until birth. Now what? Isn't this what this conversation is always about---two opposing philosophies about whether the unborn have rights? That's the only reason that people argue about human vs human being. In truth, the woman and the fetus cannot have equal rights. When an abortion is considered, either the born or the unborn have rights over the other. To ask that abortion be outlawed is to ask that a fetus' rights be given over the rights of the woman.

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#315436 Nov 11, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ps - good evening John.
We share the same name, but are very different.
For one, I've read you post and it's clear to me, that you are way more educated, better at writing, etc than I.
I also have a great respect for you and your post! For what it's worth.
I also respect many others (christian)(non christian)(pro)(not pro) abortion folks.
I realize this is suppose to be an abortion topic, and I've said my peace on it, but abortion is no bigger sin then many others.
Like I said God's not impressed with how "good" someone is.
He's not depressed, with how "bad" someone is.
All "ALL" "All" have gone their own "OWN" WAY.
You give a small child a small list of "thou shalt nots "and see how long it takes them to break them.
We don't like having any authority over us. Some more than others, but no one like being told what we should do.
People that smoke, simply do not care what any thinks. They know it's bad, they know it stinks to others, they will stop if they want to.
Use any example here, drugs, booze, eating way to much, people don't care.
God does. Yet this God set up all things to be ran in a certain order. He will not violate that order.
Thank God I'm saved!
Thank God He saved me.
Thank God He saved me by grace through faith alone, since I have either thought or done enough Sin since the day I was saved, to merit Hell. So has all who has been saved any length of time, if they would just think about it a sec.
Problem there, is many if not most never view their sin as being near like others :)
Much respect bro. Please keep reading, and question all men. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong. I will admit it.
Becouse I can be wrong!
Yet there are a few things that I am not wrong about, and those are life most important things.
If I miss cut a wood board, it may cost me alittle money, according to the rarity of the wood, but if I miss out on God, it would cost me everything.
My story is unique and I tell it truthfully.
I was saved, and didn't know it.
I did start to have a deep desire to read a Bible, and hate all of my sin, and go to a church "any church", and didn't want to curse anymore, get drunk or high, look at porn, anythinh badI loathed over night!!!
Now please don't get me wrong -I didn't wake up perfect in every way, and haven't been perfect, but my soul was and is.
There is, and forever will be a part of me, that never desires evil, but only desires good. Yet I am still within this thing called the flesh, that only desires evil.
Atleast I now have the power "through " God, to say no, to things that in the past I couldn't.
Satan had a ring in my nose and he pulled the string.
Satan pulls many of his into what we consider extremely evil things
yet he also will pull one into drugs and booze, only to pull them through rehab, and get them sober, without God, so they or rehab gets the glory.
Those who have the Son hath life.
those who don't, don't.
Those who fall on "THE ROCK" will be broken.
Those who "THE ROCK" falls on will be ground to powder.
Not talking about the wrestler either. Lol
Many who claim they've been "saved" have gone through precisely what you describe here...they've hit rock-bottom and God/Christ helped them claw their way back. I'm glad your experience has helped you, as I am for anyone who's undergone a similar experience.
My worry though is that the ecstasy of becoming "saved" can easily evolve into fanaticism. I'm not accusing you of this, you're actually quite respectful of those who don't believe as you do and, as such, I can't help but respect you in kind. I disagree wholeheartedly with some of your beliefs but at least we both acknowledge we've the freedom to agree to disagree.

Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#315437 Nov 11, 2013
John-K wrote:
<quoted text>
Many who claim they've been "saved" have gone through precisely what you describe here...they've hit rock-bottom and God/Christ helped them claw their way back. I'm glad your experience has helped you, as I am for anyone who's undergone a similar experience.
My worry though is that the ecstasy of becoming "saved" can easily evolve into fanaticism. I'm not accusing you of this, you're actually quite respectful of those who don't believe as you do and, as such, I can't help but respect you in kind. I disagree wholeheartedly with some of your beliefs but at least we both acknowledge we've the freedom to agree to disagree.
Just as many people have hit rock bottom and have rose from that bottom, without the help of a god. Any way it happens is good, as long as it happens.

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#315438 Nov 11, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi John, nice post. Do you think that all believers in God take the Bible literally?
Good evening my friend!
:)
Please, you know the answer to that quite well...of course I don't.
You for example, are rather enigmatic, and this is what I think causes you as much grief on here as it does.
You've stated that you take the words of Christ, basically the New Testament at face-value. However, you also claim to take the Old Testament allegorically rather than literally.
You've got to admit that the two approaches seem rather contradictory and has quite a few posters--myself included--somewhat puzzled.
"Gtown," however has stated that he does take the Bible literally, and that if it's written in the Bible, then it's Truth as far as he's concerned.
While I enjoy a lively theological debate as much as the next person, I suspect that a Q&A session with him won't go very far.
And, given that he's a pleasant enough poster, do I really want to start something that could turn very ugly very quickly?
I don't think so, though I do want to continue the discussion he and I were having with regards to my perception that "Free-Will" isn't really a possibility with an Omniscient, Omnipotent God.

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#315439 Nov 11, 2013
RC Honey wrote:
Me, not signed in, and if I have dinner at my Dad's tonight, it will read Calgary. Visiting my Aunt in Winnipeg, reads Winnipeg. Visiting my In Laws in Saskatchewan, it will read HELL!
Hah-hah!

Hiya "Rach."

Wow, Saskatchewan must indeed be awful if other Canadians are referring to it as HELL!
You folks always seem so stoic, so untroubled by external forces.
I've only ventured to Montreal, and Toronto so I know I've not gotten the proper "feel" for Canada.
Speaking of Toronto, what do you think of their Mayor?
His explanation for his behavior was nothing short of awesome IMO.
"Eh, yeah, I smoked crack/cocaine but it was during one of my drunken stupors..."
If only we, here in the U.S. had politicians who were so bluntly honest...
And we always thought Canada/Canadians were boring!
;P

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#315440 Nov 11, 2013
sassyjm wrote:
<quoted text>A womans child is her offspring and the age,location of that child is irrelevent.
My embryo,fetus,newborn,toddler,a dolesant,teenager,young adult,adult IS my child/baby.
A baby is a term used for your child. It is also a proper term for a young child,a human fetus,your youngest,etc....
Wrong, all around.

Baby is a term of endearment, and slang for infant, which is the time period from birth to one year.

You're confused.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#315441 Nov 11, 2013
sassyjm wrote:
<quoted text> Nor did I assume that she was making a decision for anyone. Please pay attention to the discussion and stay with us.
Say what you mean,mean what you say.
You either are pro-choice or you are anti-choice(the choice to electively kill a human in the womb).
Stop playing games. You're not fooling anyone.
I didn't say you assumed, Stupid Sassy. You said it outright. Go back and read your own post again.

I always say what I mean and mean what I say.

Yes, one is either pro-choice, or anti-choice. Pro-choice means to support the woman's right to make her own choice regarding her own pregnancy. It does NOT mean we all have to be of the same opinion on WHEN she makes that decision.

You are the only one of the two of us playing games, and you are the one fooling no one.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#315442 Nov 11, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
The baby is a fetus before birth but still the same human being.
You can have that opinion, but it's just that, your opinion. It is not a fact, and my opinion differs. It's not a human being before birth. It's an embryo or fetus.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#315443 Nov 11, 2013
John-K wrote:
<quoted text>
Good evening my friend!
:)
Please, you know the answer to that quite well...of course I don't.
You for example, are rather enigmatic, and this is what I think causes you as much grief on here as it does.
You've stated that you take the words of Christ, basically the New Testament at face-value. However, you also claim to take the Old Testament allegorically rather than literally.
You've got to admit that the two approaches seem rather contradictory and has quite a few posters--myself included--somewhat puzzled.
"Gtown," however has stated that he does take the Bible literally, and that if it's written in the Bible, then it's Truth as far as he's concerned.
While I enjoy a lively theological debate as much as the next person, I suspect that a Q&A session with him won't go very far.
And, given that he's a pleasant enough poster, do I really want to start something that could turn very ugly very quickly?
I don't think so, though I do want to continue the discussion he and I were having with regards to my perception that "Free-Will" isn't really a possibility with an Omniscient, Omnipotent God.
Good thing it isn't puzzling to me. Why does it have to be all or nothing. Shouldn't we take into consideration who wrote what and why. What could have been the motives. How were things communicated six thousand years ago. Also going outside the Bible is neccessary to read historians thoughts, agreements, disagreements and conclusions. Also there have been other gospels not associated with the Church or banned by them. I just don't see how it can be all or nothing.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#315444 Nov 11, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
You can have that opinion, but it's just that, your opinion. It is not a fact, and my opinion differs. It's not a human being before birth. It's an embryo or fetus.
Okay it's a human fetus. One of us just waiting to be born.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#315445 Nov 11, 2013
sassyjm wrote:
<quoted text>
""""Elimin ating gas from the digestive system is a HUMAN thing to do."""" " so is pooping....but I don't go around doing it in public ;)
Who are you trying to convince, me or you?
sassyjm wrote:
<quoted text>
I started wearing one to lift up my big boobs. It DOES help ;)
Helps your brother not get a hard-on around you, DOES it?

Good call.

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#315446 Nov 11, 2013
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>Just as many people have hit rock bottom and have rose from that bottom, without the help of a god. Any way it happens is good, as long as it happens.
Agree 100%!
However, I'd prefaced my reply to "Gtown" that others who'd claimed to have been "Saved" went through the same thing he did.
Some people feel a need for an external force/God to help them get over the roughest moments of their lives, some people don't.
Good to "see" you "Elise."
How've you been?

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