Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 310476 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#252620 Aug 13, 2012
My mother didn't have a choice to make, a-hole. She often pondered what she would have done if she had. But there was no diagnostic format to know the fetus had a heart problem.

My suffering? WTF are you talking about? I support women's right to choose based on THEIR reasoning, not mine.

Wake me when one of those "miracles" comes around.

I didn't choose to be gay and atheists are not pagans.

The first requirement of a saint is to be dead; mom's not a saint.
tomtom wrote:
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Your mother would not have aborted because she was a Chritian, part of the culture of life. She understands Gods Plan for everyone. You would kill an unborn child because you rationailze your sauffering, as its suffering. You know not what miracle
God has in store.
However, your story is one more piece to the puzzle of why you choose your abberent lifestyle and turned to paganism. Your mother was a Saint. Many homosexuals have a unique boond with their mothers.

“docendo discimus”

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#252621 Aug 13, 2012
Conservative Democrat wrote:
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Recognition of the fetus' potential human life hasn't an iota of comparison to recognition of the mother's existing human life, even if restrictions to abortion were greater than they are now in this society. You simply cannot hold potential human life over existing human life and suggest that a woman's constitutional rights aren't disavowed, especially when the undisputed fact is that the fetus' potential human life depends solely on the existing human life of its mother at all stages of the pregnancy.
If the fetus it a threat to the woman's life or health, then yes, her rights always prevail. Until the fetus has a very probable chance of surviving, then yes, her individual rights to medical privacy prevail. But once the fetus is viable, her rights to privacy are secondary to the State's interest to protect that potentail life, you should know this, counselor!?????

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#252622 Aug 13, 2012
How do you "protect the fetus from its mother" without enslavement of the woman to her uterine contents and the whims of fate?

The debate at this point concerns the constant attempts of the neocons to rip women's rights from them.
Ink wrote:
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As far as the abortion law goes, I don't think you can unring the bell. The number of abortions in this country a year demonstrates how much women use it for birth control. The fetus has no rights and no protection from it's mother.
Just because I believe that it is wrong to kill an unborn baby isn't going to change the law. Where's the debate?

“docendo discimus”

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#252623 Aug 13, 2012
cpeter1313 wrote:
Abortion IS okay; you just don't like it. Of course it's about the woman. She takes all the risks of pregnancy and childbirth, she suffers all the pain. She suffers any negative social reactions. It's HER body; at no time does she lose her right to make her own decisions.
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Listen to yourself, "she takes all the pain, all the social negative social reasons, why should she be accountable?" Look, killing/terminating a potentail life should not be an opinion for irresponsible behaviour, period. There are times where abortion is a necessary option, but it does not excuse the woman or man for irresponsible behavior.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#252624 Aug 13, 2012
"I think a human being is fully developed and living outside of a uterus."

That doesn't explain Carrot Top:
Junket wrote:
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"Anger" seems to flow from both directions - unless you are not reading the same posts I do. "Contempt" is the same. It's not a one sided arrangement - not by any stretch.
I think a human being is fully developed and living outside of a uterus. That may not be correct on my part - but if I'm wrong - no doubt someone will chime in and enlighten me. I live to be enlightened.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#252625 Aug 13, 2012
Very nice. I've met some "valium people". They could be used as a cure for insomnia.
R C Honey wrote:
<quoted text>That's one of the best burns I've ever read.... I'm going to soooo copy and paste it! Thanks Petie,,,, you adorable fella you
oh another favorite
Reading you is like the literary equivalency of valium
(got that from a Mars vs Venus joke)

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#252626 Aug 13, 2012
Let us know when you come near a coherent sentence.
JBH wrote:
IT COMES AT THIS PROPER TIME TO PRESENT MOMENTS TO REFLECT WHY THINGS ARE SO WRONG TO YOU ALL--IT IS BECAUSE OF THE WRONGFULNESS OF OBAMA, BIDEN AND THEIR COMPANY.
You ought to know to to your job for your better future. You have to remind IT HAS BEEN the major blunder that Obama-Biden presence at this point of time has been VIVIDLY demonstrating their poor showing with bad public acts --this is a total embarrassment.
YOU NEED TO REVERT THE CHANGE IN ORDER TO BECOME PRODUCTIVE--OTHERWISE YOU CAN NEVER GET Ahead SUCCESSFULLY.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TO BUILD MORE AND LARGE CROWDS NOW AND BLASTING OPENLY AGAINST OBAMA AND BIDEN.
THE INDICATION WILL INDICATE CLEARLY TO TELL PEOPLE THEY OBAMA AND BIDEN HAVE BEEN DOING THE WRONG BUSINESS IN THE PUBLIC OFFICE.
THE COUNTRY'S BUSINESS SHOULD HAVE NOT BEEN IN THEIR HANDS TO MESS UP.
THIS IS TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL PEOPLE KNOW THE FUTURE AHEAD FOR ALL TO ELECT ROMNEY AND RYAN AS THE RIGHT PEOPLE TO ACCOMPLISH DOING THE RIGHT BUSINESS FOR THEM.
AND THAT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR ALL.
You have to get going all the time.
You have to steer and bring up the polls before going to Romney's convention by not relying on expecting polls bouncing up due to Convention.
You have to not only maintain polls going up after Convention, but keep on going after that.
Then you watch the Democrats' Party Convention by taking notes to make sure to bash them back.
At this time, Ryan needs to work on own more before Convention, to have full preparation beyond debates and stack up attacking Obama-Biden.
Ryan has to make it a critical importance that he must do a lot of work before becoming to be the Next VP of USA.
He would work with Romney's schedule and other matters ,including Romney's budget--but the budget should not be made much an issue because they may be only more applicable once they hold office.
The election can be, and also is not about the budget in general.
It may have something to do with image, personalities and public acts , skills, charisma, communication abilty , appearance-showing, stands (including positions on issues), direction and policies.
Right now, you need to get aggressive to block and bicker the pathetic OBAMA-BIDEN TALKING ABOUT NUISANCE OF A WOWAN'S CANCER AND OUTSOURCING because they are the ones who cause them.
Then all you have to do is to get really tough after Labor Day.
Florida is a very important state.
Despite California is leaning whichever way, it still needs to devote effort there.
Florida , Pennsylvania, Ohio,(and Virginia, Carolinas), are very critically important to make certain to do more about what are needed to be done.
YOU NEED TO DO THE RIGHT THINGS FROM NOW ON AND MAKE THEM RIGHT BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CARE FOR YOURSELF AND MAKE IT--THERE IS NO OTHER WAY THAT YOU MUST KNOW.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#252627 Aug 13, 2012
Maybe the father was a plumber...
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
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BRAVO! Worth a repeat and 100% DEAD ON!
Guess hers were "meant to be" dead in a toilet. She's an idiot.

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#252628 Aug 13, 2012
Junket wrote:
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Yes, well thank you Rachel. I'm sure that your post makes sense - but since I've not accused others of murder or placed "empirically measurable" definitions of such and there is no universal social concensus of same - uhm, I guess you'll have to dumb it down for me some more. Sorry to trouble you - but it is, what it is.
In other news, there was a ground hog in my north yard. Cute little bugger. I urged it to eat the weeds that spring forth despite my uncaring and negligent fight with same.
haha about the ground hog! lol

What really this whole issue is about, is at what point do you regard 'it' to be something that needs protecting AND at what expense.... That pretty much sums it up...

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#252629 Aug 13, 2012
I don't need the government deciding what is irresponsible behavior and what is not.

There is nothing responsible about having as kid you don't want.
Badaxe wrote:
<quoted text>Listen to yourself, "she takes all the pain, all the social negative social reasons, why should she be accountable?" Look, killing/terminating a potentail life should not be an opinion for irresponsible behaviour, period. There are times where abortion is a necessary option, but it does not excuse the woman or man for irresponsible behavior.
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Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#252631 Aug 13, 2012
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
As far as the abortion law goes, I don't think you can unring the bell. The number of abortions in this country a year demonstrates how much women use it for birth control. The fetus has no rights and no protection from it's mother.
Just because I believe that it is wrong to kill an unborn baby isn't going to change the law. Where's the debate?
Do you ever read? Do you pay attention to what is happening on the state level around the country? If not, please educate yourself so that you can discuss the issue. Or, if you think there is nothing more to discuss, stop trying.

Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#252632 Aug 14, 2012
LadiLulu wrote:
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Don't forget their efforts to limit contraceptive availability, also.
Thanks, Ladi. These effing fundies won't be happy unless we women are shoved back into the status we had 70 years ago.

Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#252633 Aug 14, 2012
cpeter1313 wrote:
Very nice. I've met some "valium people". They could be used as a cure for insomnia.
<quoted text>
I dated on of those. I'd much rather have the valium, yum.
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“2014 TDF”

Since: Mar 09

Boca Raton, FL.

#252635 Aug 14, 2012
Badaxe wrote:
<quoted text>If the fetus it a threat to the woman's life or health, then yes, her rights always prevail. Until the fetus has a very probable chance of surviving, then yes, her individual rights to medical privacy prevail. But once the fetus is viable, her rights to privacy are secondary to the State's interest to protect that potentail life, you should know this, counselor!?????
I would argue otherwise.

The state's interest is limited to the actions of the legislature, who has written laws for how a post viability abortion must be documented and/or certified. No state posts guards at hospitals or clinics to make sure doctors document properly each and every post viability abortion, before the abortion is performed. And, since the woman's health can include a plethora of variables, any of which can make a post viability abortion legal, all of which are protected by HIPAA laws and the physician/patient privilege, as long as the doctor complies with the documentation/certification requirements established by the legislature, her privacy is maintained.

By the time the state becomes aware, a post viability abortion has already happened.

“2014 TDF”

Since: Mar 09

Boca Raton, FL.

#252636 Aug 14, 2012
Badaxe wrote:
<quoted text>Listen to yourself, "she takes all the pain, all the social negative social reasons, why should she be accountable?" Look, killing/terminating a potentail life should not be an opinion for irresponsible behaviour, period. There are times where abortion is a necessary option, but it does not excuse the woman or man for irresponsible behavior.
Do you consider abating an abortion, just to bring a child into a life of misery, hurt, and pain responsible behavior?

The argument about abortion will always spin on the fulcrum of the lesser of two evils. And, until men can gestate, we will not have a say so in that argument. An opinion, yes. A say so, no.
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#252637 Aug 14, 2012
Badaxe wrote:
<quoted text> There are times where abortion is a necessary option,.
There is that little option that the anti-choice people want to keep open for themselves to use at their discretion"just in case..." while trying to force their beliefs against termination on others. Just who in every town and state would make the final sayso in that "option" and how would those people be chosen and by whom?

Since: Nov 10

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#252638 Aug 14, 2012

“OUCH”

Since: Mar 07

Russell Springs, KY

#252639 Aug 14, 2012
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text>There is that little option that the anti-choice people want to keep open for themselves to use at their discretion"just in case..." while trying to force their beliefs against termination on others. Just who in every town and state would make the final sayso in that "option" and how would those people be chosen and by whom?
Excuse me sir,do you mean forcing ones belief as in a candidate running for election? This is why most of us vote,because a candidate's beliefs are like ours.
The court abandoned Roe's strict trimester framework,so I'd guess the laws in each state and town,would make the final say so..

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

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#252640 Aug 14, 2012
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
<quoted text> In the CONTEXT of what I was discussing, that is the article by the woman that HAD an LTA and why, and fetus's with Tay Sachs, well if you REALLY have to ask, then you're a MUCH bigger idiot that I gave you credit for.
But then I know context isn't your strong suit.
<quoted text> But the POINT you keep deliberately missing is it DOESNT mean healthy.
<quoted text>
No, but perhaps YOU DO asshole.
nor·mal
Adjective: Conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected.
Noun: The usual, average, or typical state or condition.
Sorry, NORMAL isn't someone on life support. Neither is healthy.
YOU are the fool Lynniekins. Sorry, I dont consider a severely prematurely born child on life support as "normal". And until the last few years, others didn't either. Medicine can keep a dead man "living" indefinetly, but should they?
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Parents of a child with Tay Sachs DONT HAVE A HEALTHY CHILD you idiot. ANd YES it IS better to abort late term than to subject that child to what they WILL go through (to say nothing of the family) and if you want to talk about brutal? BRUTAL is how they WILL die. There is NO gentle death for a child with Tay Sachs.
Have you ever seen one? Ever been around them as the disease QUICKLY progresses? Progresses to the point they KNOW what's happening and dying in the worst pain you can imagine? Pain the doctors cant even BEGIN to mitigate?
I have. Twice in my family. Yes, an abortion would have been MUCH better, and the parents agree. MOST parents that have suffered from this horror of a disease would.
"But the POINT you keep deliberately missing is it DOESNT mean healthy."

Wrong, you ignorant buffoon. The POINT is; abortion is NOT a necessary "treatment" for mother OR child in such cases.

Also, the discussion was NOT about abortion for reasons of a defective fetus, as you tried to turn it into.

It was about a mother's life being at risk, and having a VIABLE fetus. The POINT to the discussion was that a VIABLE fetus does NOT need to be aborted for mother's life at risk. Aborting a viable fetus is no less risky than birthing a live child, as I've shown proof of with links to that fact.

You're the idiot who tried to claim that [yes, a woman could hemmorage from aborting late term but that's a NECESSARY surgery], as though a c-section to SAVE mother AND child would not be a "NECESSARY surgery".

You make a fool of yourself and you're your own worst enemy by doing everything that you do here.

“Dan IS the Man”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#252641 Aug 14, 2012
feces for jesus wrote:
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I pity your "my side vs your side" world.
I pity her cowardice.

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