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US avoids setting - red lines' after Syria chemical claims

There are 270 comments on the South China Morning Post story from Aug 21, 2013, titled US avoids setting - red lines' after Syria chemical claims. In it, South China Morning Post reports that:

The United States refused to set new "red lines" for Syria on Wednesday as claims of a horrific chemical arms strike reignited debate over Washington's reluctance to intervene in the civil war.

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The Big and Black

Sydney, Australia

#242 Sep 3, 2013
white women worship black men
Teaman

Abingdon, VA

#243 Sep 3, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Obama care makes you able to keep you kids on your insurance till they are 26, but you still have to pay for them as you always had been doing, at least for us private sector payers, not sure about you socialized madicine covered tri-care people... kids were probalby "free" for you...(that means "more" for me..)
I'm not on Tricare. I left the service in 1974. But, I think that was the sticking point with Tricare. That military pension isn't much to write home about to begin with. Adult kids without healthcare would cost a retiree $200.00 a month.

Yes, I know you'll have to pay a higher premium for the kids. Luckily for me, one teacher, one lawyer. Yes, I know, a lawyer, I failed as a parent. Grrr :-)

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#244 Sep 3, 2013
Glitz wrote:
<quoted text>Tricare is a health plan for retired military, that was paid every three months and our new plan starts Oct 1st next month. We had a decent copay, prescription plan, hospital and ER plan, etc......which was a reasonable price, but has ALL changed. They want all retirees and their family to get their medical care from military hospitals now, which is free of charge, which is great if you live near one, we don't. Those of us who do not live near one use Tricare for civilian facilities and now we pay 20% of the total medical visit. Oh,$698.00 hospital stay a day, which I hope we don't need.
most people have a copay like that. or deductibles in the several thousands...and they pay ten thousand a year for that coverage...
Teaman

Abingdon, VA

#245 Sep 3, 2013
Glitz wrote:
<quoted text>Tricare is a health plan for retired military, that was paid every three months and our new plan starts Oct 1st next month. We had a decent copay, prescription plan, hospital and ER plan, etc......which was a reasonable price, but has ALL changed. They want all retirees and their family to get their medical care from military hospitals now, which is free of charge, which is great if you live near one, we don't. Those of us who do not live near one use Tricare for civilian facilities and now we pay 20% of the total medical visit. Oh,$698.00 hospital stay a day, which I hope we don't need.
That's not good! The military hospitals are closed down here.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#246 Sep 3, 2013
Teaman wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not on Tricare. I left the service in 1974. But, I think that was the sticking point with Tricare. That military pension isn't much to write home about to begin with. Adult kids without healthcare would cost a retiree $200.00 a month.
Yes, I know you'll have to pay a higher premium for the kids. Luckily for me, one teacher, one lawyer. Yes, I know, a lawyer, I failed as a parent. Grrr :-)
$2,400/year for health care for a kid? dude, can you adopt like 40 million people? that is freakin cheap!
Glitz

Akron, OH

#247 Sep 3, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>most people have a copay like that. or deductibles in the several thousands...and they pay ten thousand a year for that coverage...
True, but we were promised a medical plan when we signed up if we served 20+ years. Of course, we fulfilled our part of the deal and they(the government) changed theirs. They are penalizing us who don't live around a military hospital.
Teaman

Abingdon, VA

#248 Sep 3, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>$2,400/year for health care for a kid? dude, can you adopt like 40 million people? that is freakin cheap!
This is true. It is cheap. I don't know what the pay is in the service these days or what someone's pension would be. It might be expensive for them.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#249 Sep 3, 2013
Glitz wrote:
<quoted text>True, but we were promised a medical plan when we signed up if we served 20+ years. Of course, we fulfilled our part of the deal and they(the government) changed theirs. They are penalizing us who don't live around a military hospital.
and you have a medical plan. you are like the city employees of Detroit that were promised medical plans for life if they put in thirty years for the city

that just don't work in today's medical cost world. austerity cuts need to be made if you want any benefits at all. be glad you have any at all.
Glitz

Akron, OH

#250 Sep 3, 2013
Teaman wrote:
<quoted text>
That's not good! The military hospitals are closed down here.
The new retirees coming out of the service will have to think about living near a military hospital if they want free medical care.

I can see 29 Palms (29 Stumps) becoming a military retiree Vegas..........LOL.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#251 Sep 3, 2013
Teaman wrote:
<quoted text>
This is true. It is cheap. I don't know what the pay is in the service these days or what someone's pension would be. It might be expensive for them.
always good to look at the benefits/pay package when taking a job...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#252 Sep 3, 2013
Glitz wrote:
<quoted text>The new retirees coming out of the service will have to think about living near a military hospital if they want free medical care.
I can see 29 Palms (29 Stumps) becoming a military retiree Vegas..........LOL.
oh, that beautiful socialized free medical care...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#253 Sep 3, 2013
well, for the gov't employees...the rest of us pay for it...
Teaman

Abingdon, VA

#254 Sep 3, 2013
Glitz wrote:
<quoted text>The new retirees coming out of the service will have to think about living near a military hospital if they want free medical care.
I can see 29 Palms (29 Stumps) becoming a military retiree Vegas..........LOL.
Pensacola, Fl, seems to turning that way.
Teaman

Abingdon, VA

#255 Sep 3, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>always good to look at the benefits/pay package when taking a job...
It's more than a job, it's an adventure.:-)
Glitz

Akron, OH

#256 Sep 3, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>always good to look at the benefits/pay package when taking a job...
We did look at the benefit package and it was good, but the pay not so good.
Glitz

Akron, OH

#257 Sep 3, 2013
Teaman wrote:
<quoted text>
Pensacola, Fl, seems to turning that way.
I think more and more surrounding military bases with hospitals will become that way in years to follow, but the government will eventually change that too once the base hospitals are overflowed with retirees patients.

Adam 36

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#258 Sep 4, 2013
CTM wrote:
<quoted text>..........So that's why at the hearings today all the politicos were saying two weeks was going to make us stronger in our response. I still don't trust Kerry to bring the truth. He's one of those overstuffed politicians that runs his ego and has Americans pay for it. Not fat overstuffed, overstuffed with the inflated ego that comes from real Americans going out there and getting things done. The overstuffed that most every Senator and Congressman has from "knowing the system" of politics and using it to get rich instead of serving the people who elected him. Anything that was of true reason or argument was asked by Kerry to be "discussed confidentially". As in we Americans STILL won't get to hear the real reason they want to strike, we'll just have to pay for it!. Two weeks also explains why no other country is showing up or talking, seems they have some sense.
This is definitely a slap in the face for Obama. He has ignored the US's allies to his own detriment. They are now reminding him of their value. When the Brits spurned him he ran to Congress for cover. Obama has no foreign policy other than leading from behind.
CTM

New Milford, CT

#259 Sep 4, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
<quoted text>
This is definitely a slap in the face for Obama. He has ignored the US's allies to his own detriment. They are now reminding him of their value. When the Brits spurned him he ran to Congress for cover. Obama has no foreign policy other than leading from behind.
..........Did you see him live with the Swedish P.M. this morning? It was international toast. That's all we are now if you saw the smirk on the PMs face as Obama sputtered about Syria and the NSA debacle. Those who are pulling the Obama strings are in a lot of trouble, they've been lying and robbing everything for so long Obama can't keep up with the stories they want him to tell.

Adam 36

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#260 Sep 4, 2013
CTM wrote:
<quoted text>..........Did you see him live with the Swedish P.M. this morning? It was international toast. That's all we are now if you saw the smirk on the PMs face as Obama sputtered about Syria and the NSA debacle. Those who are pulling the Obama strings are in a lot of trouble, they've been lying and robbing everything for so long Obama can't keep up with the stories they want him to tell.
I missed it live but hopefully will catch it later. The headline he made that the world created the redline and not him, is farcical.

Since: Jan 11

Abingdon, VA

#261 Sep 4, 2013
Glitz wrote:
<quoted text>I think more and more surrounding military bases with hospitals will become that way in years to follow, but the government will eventually change that too once the base hospitals are overflowed with retirees patients.
There seemed to be a lot going for retirees in the Pensacoala area. There's a naval base in Pensacoala and an air force base down the road in Ft. Walton Beach. I was down there for the funeral of an ol' buddy who had retired from the air force. Housing was reasonable.

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