Rep. Steve King Zings Obama on Amnesty: 'You Can't Trust...

Dec 11, 2013 Full story: TheBlaze.com 156

House Republicans can't piecemeal immigration reform because President Barack Obama cannot be trusted, Rep. Steve King charged Tuesday.

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kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#152 Dec 14, 2013
Maw and Paw wrote:
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As retirees we should not have to pay more for health insurance. We're two old people on fixed incomes, and now have to pay an additional $400 per month to cover health insurance for illegals and their ten children.
Good news, "Maw and Paw!" (OK, you got me. I'm sympathetic to old folks being tossed into the streets to survive.)

You're actually not forced to pay "an additional $400 per month to cover health insurance for illegals and their ten children." (Isn't that story from the Faux Views script book?)

As "two old people on fixed incomes, "you're covered by Medicare.(By the way, you're welcome! I'm pleased to pay for your increased medical care that surely accompanies you as you move on down life's path toward eternity.)
Oldglory

Banning, CA

#153 Dec 14, 2013
kuda wrote:
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Good news, "Maw and Paw!" (OK, you got me. I'm sympathetic to old folks being tossed into the streets to survive.)
You're actually not forced to pay "an additional $400 per month to cover health insurance for illegals and their ten children." (Isn't that story from the Faux Views script book?)
As "two old people on fixed incomes, "you're covered by Medicare.(By the way, you're welcome! I'm pleased to pay for your increased medical care that surely accompanies you as you move on down life's path toward eternity.)
Most seniors pay for Part B of Medicare which is over $100 a month. Since the uninsured raise the premiums for those who are insured that would mean that a part of their Part B premiums goes to care for illegal alien healthcare. I don't mind helping the truly needy citizens who don't have health insurance but I sure don't want my premiums raised to care for those who are here in violation of our immigration laws.
Oldglory

Banning, CA

#154 Dec 14, 2013
kuda wrote:
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You completely misunderstood what I said. Apparently, metaphors put you at an unintended disadvantage. Instead, I'll address the issue more concretely here by offering some examples, some real-world "what-ifs."
I'm advocating exercising good judgment and showing compassion on a case by case basis for everyone, including you, not just those whom you consider unworthy because they have failed to measure up to your standards for enfranchisement. I'm also saying that it's wiser to seek practical resolutions for problems than to adhere rigidly principles that only result in perpetuating them.
If you and your family were destitute, literally starving and surrounded by an abundance of food, you might be the only soul to cling rigidly to your belief in restraint from temptation. Furthermore, most people would certainly forgive out of compassion you for eating their food and even want to extend a gift to help you and yours in the longer run. There comes a point that it becomes less important whose food it is and whose needs are more urgent.
I share your moral values, but not your absolutism. You might say that sometimes we just need to cut others some slack. Everything that goes around comes around. Etc. if you catch my drift and I hope you do.
Come on, get real here. We should interview/investigate 11 million plus illegals to see if they are "worthy" or not to remain here? Who is going to pay for that? Why would any of them be worthy or entitled to our compassion since they thumbed their noses at our immigration laws and most likely either committed ID theft to work here or got paid under the table and evaded taxes . Again where is your compassion for the American worker? None, zilch, nada!

A practical solution is to mandate e- verify across the board, deny them any benefits and birthright citizenship for their kids. With no incentive to remain here many if not most would self-deport. and it would be a deterrant for more to come here.

Again, most illegals that come here are not starving nor are they destitute. You are drinking the pro-illegal Kool-Aid. Cut some slack? There are at least 11 million illegals here with 23 million Americans out of work. How about you cutting the American worker some slack. Your compassion is so misplaced that it's pathetic!
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#155 Dec 14, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
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Most seniors pay for Part B of Medicare which is over $100 a month. Since the uninsured raise the premiums for those who are insured that would mean that a part of their Part B premiums goes to care for illegal alien healthcare. I don't mind helping the truly needy citizens who don't have health insurance but I sure don't want my premiums raised to care for those who are here in violation of our immigration laws.
I understand what you're saying: "What's you'rn is you'rn."
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#156 Dec 14, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
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Come on, get real here. We should interview/investigate 11 million plus illegals to see if they are "worthy" or not to remain here? Who is going to pay for that? Why would any of them be worthy or entitled to our compassion since they thumbed their noses at our immigration laws and most likely either committed ID theft to work here or got paid under the table and evaded taxes . Again where is your compassion for the American worker? None, zilch, nada!
A practical solution is to mandate e- verify across the board, deny them any benefits and birthright citizenship for their kids. With no incentive to remain here many if not most would self-deport. and it would be a deterrant for more to come here.
Again, most illegals that come here are not starving nor are they destitute. You are drinking the pro-illegal Kool-Aid. Cut some slack? There are at least 11 million illegals here with 23 million Americans out of work. How about you cutting the American worker some slack. Your compassion is so misplaced that it's pathetic!
You persist in insisting that the world is dichotomous rather than continuous, all black-and-white without infinite shades of gray between them, digital rather than analog. My view of the universe is admittedly a much broader perspective, and I have no problem accepting that our world outlook is different. Everyone's unique our freedom to be ourselves is what makes us strong. Moving forward...
Oldglory

Banning, CA

#157 Dec 14, 2013
kuda wrote:
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You persist in insisting that the world is dichotomous rather than continuous, all black-and-white without infinite shades of gray between them, digital rather than analog. My view of the universe is admittedly a much broader perspective, and I have no problem accepting that our world outlook is different. Everyone's unique our freedom to be ourselves is what makes us strong. Moving forward...
There is no gray area in our immigration laws nor should there be. The only exception would be for those claiming refugee status. I am glad that the majority don't view the world as you do by defending lawbreakers while showing no compassion for our own citizens.
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#158 Dec 14, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
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There is no gray area in our immigration laws nor should there be. The only exception would be for those claiming refugee status. I am glad that the majority don't view the world as you do by defending lawbreakers while showing no compassion for our own citizens.
You disagree with me and I'm OK with that even though you persist in interpreting my position advancing compassion for ALL people as lacking compassion toward those you don't disenfranchise. Perhaps it is necessary for you assuage your conscience.

However, I must dispel your belief that the majority of the world shares your position, for which you appoint yourself its spokesperson. You have no evidence to support your highly untenable assumption that you speak for the vast majority. It's great that you feel good about yourself, but please find some boundaries to contain your seemingly boundless feelings of eminence.

We have different values. It's time to move on.
Holla Isabella

Danielson, CT

#159 Dec 14, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
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There is no gray area in our immigration laws nor should there be. The only exception would be for those claiming refugee status. I am glad that the majority don't view the world as you do by defending lawbreakers while showing no compassion for our own citizens.
You're going to gave to speak LOUDER. I couldn't gear you over all the assholes in the background singing Kumbayah. The sixties are over, hippy. Nowadays it's clear that there are those who do not for into your little philosophy of one world, Luke the illegal aliens who look down at the ground so sad to get your sympathy with those big brown eyes and steal, cheat, lie like the parasites they are. The more you give the more they take.
nym8387

Stratford, CT

#160 Dec 14, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>I rarely encounter disagreement on Topix that I think rises to the level of controversy. Mostly, I am confronted with greed, bigotry, racism, and suffocating ignorance. Still, this being America, you have a right to your opinion, however repulsive it may be.
And boorish insults from you convince me I'm on the side of justice. Now go away, boy. You bother me.
Justice? Please,this is personal to you.Anchor babies are funny.
nym8387

Stratford, CT

#161 Dec 14, 2013
kuda wrote:
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You disagree with me and I'm OK with that even though you persist in interpreting my position advancing compassion for ALL people as lacking compassion toward those you don't disenfranchise. Perhaps it is necessary for you assuage your conscience.
However, I must dispel your belief that the majority of the world shares your position, for which you appoint yourself its spokesperson. You have no evidence to support your highly untenable assumption that you speak for the vast majority. It's great that you feel good about yourself, but please find some boundaries to contain your seemingly boundless feelings of eminence.
We have different values. It's time to move on.
You have a hard time accepting reality. Do you also belive Romney lost because of his self deportation stance?
sandy1

New City, NY

#162 Dec 14, 2013
Holla Isabella wrote:
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You're going to gave to speak LOUDER. I couldn't gear you over all the assholes in the background singing Kumbayah. The sixties are over, hippy. Nowadays it's clear that there are those who do not for into your little philosophy of one world, Luke the illegal aliens who look down at the ground so sad to get your sympathy with those big brown eyes and steal, cheat, lie like the parasites they are. The more you give the more they take.
All the drugs these people took in the 60's rotted their little brains,and turned them into anti American turds.
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#163 Dec 14, 2013
nym8387 wrote:
<quoted text>You have a hard time accepting reality. Do you also belive Romney lost because of his self deportation stance?
Depending on how you define reality, I reserve the right to disagree. I believe Romney lost voters because he generally out of touch with American voters. Overall, I consider his notion about "self-deportation" only one example, along with "binders full of women" comment, stowing his terrified dog on top of is car in "an airtight container"(sic), talking about enjoying "sport," and especially his career of hostile takeovers and sending jobs abroad. Then there was his history of dressing in a Michigan State Trooper uniform and playing cop. i could go on, but I'm starting to have flashbacks to that nightmare.

How about you? Do you belive Romney lost because of his self deportation stance?
wild child

New York, NY

#164 Dec 14, 2013
nym8387 wrote:
<quoted text>You have a hard time accepting reality. Do you also belive Romney lost because of his self deportation stance?
hey ny numbers its me brenda , with a new name.how you been, wheres mexi lmao.is that really you? Coz theres a lot of fakers on here.say something ny would say.what do you say to, the fools still dont have amnesty?
John

Charleston, WV

#165 Dec 14, 2013
I don't know why everyone hates obama. Since he got elected I got my ssdi. I now get a monthly check, free place to live, food stamps, even a free phone all from Obama. I used to work a crappy job and have to spend all my money on rent, groceries, and a cell phone. Now obama gives me all that for free plus I get a check on top!! I'd vote for him a third time if I could. You all should look into this ssdi. You don't actually have to be disable u just have to say u are and obama will send u a check too.
wild child

Brooklyn, NY

#166 Dec 14, 2013
John wrote:
I don't know why everyone hates obama. Since he got elected I got my ssdi. I now get a monthly check, free place to live, food stamps, even a free phone all from Obama. I used to work a crappy job and have to spend all my money on rent, groceries, and a cell phone. Now obama gives me all that for free plus I get a check on top!! I'd vote for him a third time if I could. You all should look into this ssdi. You don't actually have to be disable u just have to say u are and obama will send u a check too.
and if you are illegal you can get that too, thank god he cant run again.
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#167 Dec 14, 2013
Maw and Paw wrote:
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As retirees we should not have to pay more for health insurance. We're two old people on fixed incomes, and now have to pay an additional $400 per month to cover health insurance for illegals and their ten children.
Back in the late 1980's when the boomers were in their prime working ages, all of the progressives protected the "third rail" of politics with venom. All the important news people laughing and chuckling on the then old people being used as collateral for those with agendas. Well now the boomers are entering the old age game. There will be 100 million people collecting social security and using medicare in fifteen years or so. You will find very little agreement from the aging by others getting old now. But there is a war brewing against the aged. For money is needed for wars, for the military-industrial complex, for security, for the growing tyranny, for diseases from irresponsible actions, for the massive social welfare state and so much more. America shut the illegal spigot at times when the economy slowed down in its history. We have not done that for many decades. We will pay for this, and are now.

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