Election over, Obama to face same weak economy

Nov 6, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Reuters

Americans have given President Barack Obama the benefit of doubt that he has the best fix for the ailing economy.

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So no denial? President for Life Barrack Obama... hmmmm. Yes, it has a nice third-worldy ring to it. Will he get one of those overly-fancy military uniforms with lots of medals, a bright red sash and a high peaked cap with a bronze metal eagle on it? Will he cruise poor neighborhoods giving out huge gifts at random like Evita Peron?
No... NO! Better idea... have Hillary play Evita and let Obama be Juan Peron! Then we could also have Fox news personalities start "disappearing", just like in old Buenos Aires during the dictorship days.
Yes, that sounds just like what you ObamaZombies would love.
Sean Hannity called. You're to report back to the cave.

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How long have you been sitting here waiting for me to get home from work? All day?
You must have taken the day off. I saw your shovel.
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So no denial? President for Life Barrack Obama... hmmmm. Yes, it has a nice third-worldy ring to it. Will he get one of those overly-fancy military uniforms with lots of medals, a bright red sash and a high peaked cap with a bronze metal eagle on it? Will he cruise poor neighborhoods giving out huge gifts at random like Evita Peron?
No... NO! Better idea... have Hillary play Evita and let Obama be Juan Peron! Then we could also have Fox news personalities start "disappearing", just like in old Buenos Aires during the dictorship days.
Yes, that sounds just like what you ObamaZombies would love.
Document uncovers details of a planned coup in the USA in 1933 by right-wing American businessmen / 23 July 2007 / http://tinyurl.com/2cc7af
The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most famous families in America,(owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse & George Bush’s Grandfather, Prescott) believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression.

Mike Thomson investigates why so little is known about this biggest ever peacetime threat to American democracy.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/document/...

Document uncovers details of a planned coup in the USA in 1933 by right-wing American businessmen / 23 July 2007 / Audio
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What would a half-American from Wishywashington county know about anything?
hahahahahahahaha
Are you talking about Obama?
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<quoted text>It could be worse. I could be living next to you.
By the way sagebrush, don't assume you know me. You don't. Say, ain't it time for you to slop the pigs?
"slop the hogs' is the expression hymowitz

So, you hate farmers and ranchers too? oink oink

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Document uncovers details of a planned coup in the USA in 1933 by right-wing American businessmen / 23 July 2007 / http://tinyurl.com/2cc7af
The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most famous families in America,(owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse & George Bush’s Grandfather, Prescott) believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression.
Mike Thomson investigates why so little is known about this biggest ever peacetime threat to American democracy.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/document/...
Document uncovers details of a planned coup in the USA in 1933 by right-wing American businessmen / 23 July 2007 / Audio
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/document/...
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"slop the hogs' is the expression hymowitz
So, you hate farmers and ranchers too? oink oink
No, I just hate you. And it's not because you're a farmer. It's because you're a petty bigot and an all-purpose a'hole.
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You data says 2007, that was under the Bush administration under the policies he enacted, specifically those tax policies that opened the door for American jobs to be outsourced and the employer rewarded.

Consider that Before 2001 and the Bush Regime, there was less than 4 Million America across the country who needed Financial Aid to survive, we had full employment at 4%, and were no amassing debt for anything other than the interest on bonds that were outstanding.

You should review your data and the dates. If there is an explosion in the need for american to seek Financial Aid, it has to do with the Bush Economy that saw the greatest collapse of a booming economy since the Fall of the Roman Empire. The calamity began in 2006 with the wave of home foreclosures and didn't end until Mar 2009 with President Obama's stimulus.
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Your ignorance is glaring:
States that receive the most welfare money:
15. Oregon
% of pop. on assistance: 1.55%
2007 spending:$83.85 million
Total recipients (July 2008): 58,831
14. Pennsylvania
% of pop. on assistance: 1.60%
2007 spending:$247.29 million
Total recipients (July 2008): 198,666
13. Michigan
% of pop. on assistance: 1.65%
2007 spending:$380.93 million
Total recipients (July 2008): 164,589
12. Rhode Island
% of pop. on assistance: 1.79%
2007 spending:$57.4 million
Total recipients (July 2008): 18,839
Tie-10. Indiana
% of pop. on assistance: 1.83%
2007 spending:$102.27 million
Total recipients (July 2008): 116,430
Tie-10. New Mexico
% of pop. on assistance: 1.83%
2007 spending:$58.87 million
Total recipients (July 2008): 36,322
9. Washington
% of pop. on assistance: 1.86%
2007 spending:$265.88 million
Total recipients (July 2008): 121,864
8. Minnesota
% of pop. on assistance: 1.88%
2007 spending:$106.29 million
Total recipients (July 2008): 98,028
7. New York
% of pop. on assistance: 1.92%
2007 spending:$1.47 billion
Total recipients (July 2008): 373,305
6. District of Columbia
% of pop. on assistance: 1.99%
2007 spending:$18.67 million
Total recipients (July 2008): 11,806
5. Vermont
% of pop. on assistance: 2.02%
2007 spending:$30.92 milliion
Total recipients (July 2008): 12,543
4. Massachusetts
% of pop. on assistance: 2.09%
2007 spending:$295.29 million
Total recipients (July 2008): 136,033
3. Tennessee
% of pop. on assistance: 2.15%
2007 spending:$91.28 million
Total recipients (July 2008): 133,505
2. Maine
% of pop. on assistance: 2.37%
2007 spending:$61.73 million
Total recipients (July 2008): 31,148
1. California
% of pop. on assistance: 3.30%
2007 spending:$3.28 billion
Total recipients (July 2008): 1,212,893
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<quoted text>No, I just hate you. And it's not because you're a farmer. It's because you're a petty bigot and an all-purpose a'hole.
Yes Larry, we know, you're so full of hate it's a wonder you don't choke on your own bile. But don't ask anybody to feel sorry for you because we won't.....you're a vile POS.

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WHAT A SURPRISE BO is a lying SOS:

Obama's claim that the Bush tax cuts helped cause the economic ...
www.washingtonpost.com/.../fact...bush-tax-cu... ...
Oct 1, 2012 – FACT CHECKER | It's time for Obama to retire the talking point that Bush tax cuts and deregulation caused the 2008 economic crisis.

"The Facts

We should stipulate at the outset that Romney adamantly rejects the idea that he has proposed more tax cuts for the wealthy. His plan would cut tax rates, but also eliminate tax deductions, which he says would make the plan revenue neutral. But no one has proven that his numbers add up, and the respected nonpartisan Tax Policy Center concluded that the available details on the Romney plan suggest taxes would decrease for the wealthy but rise for the middle class.

Romney has advocated repealing the Dodd-Frank financial regulation bill. As for the role of deregulation in the crisis, there certainly has been news reporting showing that the Bush administration generally took a hands- off approach to regulating financial institutions.

But others would note the irony of Clinton citing the perils of deregulation under Bush because he also is culpable. Clinton signed into law a repeal of the Glass-Steagall law that separated commercial and investment banks — a policy shift that some have said also played a role in the economic crisis. Moreover, Clinton also signed into law the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which essentially removed derivatives contracts from regulatory oversight. By many accounts, derivatives, such as the credit default swap, were at the heart of the financial crisis.

Indeed, Clinton has admitted that he was given wrong advice about the need to regulate derivatives contracts.“I think they were wrong, and I think I was wrong to take” their advice, Clinton said of his economic advisers.

The Dodd-Frank bill tightened regulations on derivatives contracts, thus reversing the decision that Clinton — not Bush — had made.

While one can argue whether deregulation under Clinton or Bush played a bigger role in the financial crisis, the notion that the Bush tax cuts “led” to the 2008 crisis is especially puzzling. "

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You data says 2007, that was under the Bush administration under the policies he enacted, specifically those tax policies that opened the door for American jobs to be outsourced and the employer rewarded.
Consider that Before 2001 and the Bush Regime, there was less than 4 Million America across the country who needed Financial Aid to survive, we had full employment at 4%, and were no amassing debt for anything other than the interest on bonds that were outstanding.
You should review your data and the dates. If there is an explosion in the need for american to seek Financial Aid, it has to do with the Bush Economy that saw the greatest collapse of a booming economy since the Fall of the Roman Empire. The calamity began in 2006 with the wave of home foreclosures and didn't end until Mar 2009 with President Obama's stimulus.
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Nowhere, ever, has anyone shown a specific law that rewards manufacturers for shipping jobs over seas.

Show it or STFU

And get an education from the leftist Washington Post's fact checker::

HAT A SURPRISE BO is a lying SOS:

Obama's claim that the Bush tax cuts helped cause the economic ...
www.washingtonpost.com/.../fact...bush-tax-cu... ...
Oct 1, 2012 – FACT CHECKER | It's time for Obama to retire the talking point that Bush tax cuts and deregulation caused the 2008 economic crisis.

"The Facts

We should stipulate at the outset that Romney adamantly rejects the idea that he has proposed more tax cuts for the wealthy. His plan would cut tax rates, but also eliminate tax deductions, which he says would make the plan revenue neutral. But no one has proven that his numbers add up, and the respected nonpartisan Tax Policy Center concluded that the available details on the Romney plan suggest taxes would decrease for the wealthy but rise for the middle class.

Romney has advocated repealing the Dodd-Frank financial regulation bill. As for the role of deregulation in the crisis, there certainly has been news reporting showing that the Bush administration generally took a hands- off approach to regulating financial institutions.

But others would note the irony of Clinton citing the perils of deregulation under Bush because he also is culpable. Clinton signed into law a repeal of the Glass-Steagall law that separated commercial and investment banks — a policy shift that some have said also played a role in the economic crisis. Moreover, Clinton also signed into law the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which essentially removed derivatives contracts from regulatory oversight. By many accounts, derivatives, such as the credit default swap, were at the heart of the financial crisis.

Indeed, Clinton has admitted that he was given wrong advice about the need to regulate derivatives contracts.“I think they were wrong, and I think I was wrong to take” their advice, Clinton said of his economic advisers.

The Dodd-Frank bill tightened regulations on derivatives contracts, thus reversing the decision that Clinton — not Bush — had made.

While one can argue whether deregulation under Clinton or Bush played a bigger role in the financial crisis, the notion that the Bush tax cuts “led” to the 2008 crisis is especially puzzling. "

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<quoted text>No, I just hate you. And it's not because you're a farmer. It's because you're a petty bigot and an all-purpose a'hole.
I pity you, you're too stupid to even act in your own best interests.
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Overseas profit deferments.

the U.S. tax code's treatment of profits earned by foreign subsidiaries of American corporations. Profits earned in the United States are subject to the 35% corporate tax. But multinational corporations can defer paying U.S. taxes on their overseas profits until they return them to the USA — transfers that often don't happen for years. General Electric, for example, has $62 billion in "undistributed earnings" parked offshore, according to recent Securities and Exchange Commission filings. Drug giant Pfizer boasts $60 billion. ExxonMobil has $56 billion.

"If you had two companies in Pittsburgh that both were going to expand capacity and create 100 jobs, our tax code puts the company who chooses to put the plant in Pittsburgh at a competitive disadvantage over the company that chooses to move to a tax haven,"
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Nowhere, ever, has anyone shown a specific law that rewards manufacturers for shipping jobs over seas.
Show it or STFU
And get an education from the leftist Washington Post's fact checker::
HAT A SURPRISE BO is a lying SOS:
Obama's claim that the Bush tax cuts helped cause the economic ...
www.washingtonpost.com/.../fact...bush-tax-cu... ...
Oct 1, 2012 – FACT CHECKER | It's time for Obama to retire the talking point that Bush tax cuts and deregulation caused the 2008 economic crisis.
"The Facts
We should stipulate at the outset that Romney adamantly rejects the idea that he has proposed more tax cuts for the wealthy. His plan would cut tax rates, but also eliminate tax deductions, which he says would make the plan revenue neutral. But no one has proven that his numbers add up, and the respected nonpartisan Tax Policy Center concluded that the available details on the Romney plan suggest taxes would decrease for the wealthy but rise for the middle class.
Romney has advocated repealing the Dodd-Frank financial regulation bill. As for the role of deregulation in the crisis, there certainly has been news reporting showing that the Bush administration generally took a hands- off approach to regulating financial institutions.
But others would note the irony of Clinton citing the perils of deregulation under Bush because he also is culpable. Clinton signed into law a repeal of the Glass-Steagall law that separated commercial and investment banks — a policy shift that some have said also played a role in the economic crisis. Moreover, Clinton also signed into law the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which essentially removed derivatives contracts from regulatory oversight. By many accounts, derivatives, such as the credit default swap, were at the heart of the financial crisis.
Indeed, Clinton has admitted that he was given wrong advice about the need to regulate derivatives contracts.“I think they were wrong, and I think I was wrong to take” their advice, Clinton said of his economic advisers.
The Dodd-Frank bill tightened regulations on derivatives contracts, thus reversing the decision that Clinton — not Bush — had made.
While one can argue whether deregulation under Clinton or Bush played a bigger role in the financial crisis, the notion that the Bush tax cuts “led” to the 2008 crisis is especially puzzling. "
Wise up, dummies.
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This is key among the many reasons Romney loss the election. Romney proposed Territorial Taxes, where American Corporations paid taxes to the Nation where the profits were generated instead of paying taxes on earning to America.

Romney wanted to go even further in tax avoidance for American Corporations with facilities and operations in Tax Shelter Nations.

This is a common thread of the Romney platform, but you probably already knew that being you such a stanch supporter of Romney and his proposals.
sage won wrote:
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Nowhere, ever, has anyone shown a specific law that rewards manufacturers for shipping jobs over seas.
Show it or STFU
And get an education from the leftist Washington Post's fact checker::
HAT A SURPRISE BO is a lying SOS:
Obama's claim that the Bush tax cuts helped cause the economic ...
www.washingtonpost.com/.../fact...bush-tax-cu... ...
Oct 1, 2012 – FACT CHECKER | It's time for Obama to retire the talking point that Bush tax cuts and deregulation caused the 2008 economic crisis.
"The Facts
We should stipulate at the outset that Romney adamantly rejects the idea that he has proposed more tax cuts for the wealthy. His plan would cut tax rates, but also eliminate tax deductions, which he says would make the plan revenue neutral. But no one has proven that his numbers add up, and the respected nonpartisan Tax Policy Center concluded that the available details on the Romney plan suggest taxes would decrease for the wealthy but rise for the middle class.
Romney has advocated repealing the Dodd-Frank financial regulation bill. As for the role of deregulation in the crisis, there certainly has been news reporting showing that the Bush administration generally took a hands- off approach to regulating financial institutions.
But others would note the irony of Clinton citing the perils of deregulation under Bush because he also is culpable. Clinton signed into law a repeal of the Glass-Steagall law that separated commercial and investment banks — a policy shift that some have said also played a role in the economic crisis. Moreover, Clinton also signed into law the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which essentially removed derivatives contracts from regulatory oversight. By many accounts, derivatives, such as the credit default swap, were at the heart of the financial crisis.
Indeed, Clinton has admitted that he was given wrong advice about the need to regulate derivatives contracts.“I think they were wrong, and I think I was wrong to take” their advice, Clinton said of his economic advisers.
The Dodd-Frank bill tightened regulations on derivatives contracts, thus reversing the decision that Clinton — not Bush — had made.
While one can argue whether deregulation under Clinton or Bush played a bigger role in the financial crisis, the notion that the Bush tax cuts “led” to the 2008 crisis is especially puzzling. "
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Obama's claim that the Bush tax
Election over.
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Most of the jobs went to China between 2000 and 2008, when Bush was in office, and it has to do with the collapse of the Soviet Union. When the Soviet Union collapsed, that was the end of the communist model so countries like China and India decided to go capitalist and this is why you have a rising middle class in both China and India now. China decided to go into manufacturing and since they have 1 billion, 400 million people the communist government was able to make people in China work for almost nothing, and that brought a lot of money to China, a lot of American businesses and from there China was able to copy (steal) our technology and make knockoffs, and China became interested in educating its people to become enginners and computer scientists so that they can invent things and so they could hack into our computers to steal more of our intellictual property. Very few jobs went to China under Obama. Most of it happened when Bush was in office.

I'm not a Dem. I don't like Obama running up all of this debt, but, so did Bush and the country collapsed when Bush was in office - the banks, the real estate market, the job market and the jobs were oursourced under his watch. There's a video on Youtube that shows in 3 minutes where the debt came from, and sorry to say, it came mainly from Bush. I'll try to find the video for you all.
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And see how corrupt Fox is that Glenn Beck was going on and on and on about how communists want to take over the U.S. and the truth all this time was that due to the collapse of communism China went capitalist and we lost our manufacturing jobs to China. Glenn Beck never one time told people our jobs had gone to China, and he was buying stuff made in China and selling it to his followers, and he was totally lying that communists were about to take over the country. The country is bankrupt and going under, no one is trying to take it over. And his insane ideas that somehow Muslims are in with communists to take over the country is insane. Muslims have no love loss for the Chinese. Unless you read books, you have no idea how badly these people on the TV are lying about everything.

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anyone who thinks Obama deserves any credit for the Dow Jones average is an ignorant moron.
.....but we knew that about the left. They care about no one but themselves.

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Election over.
somethings never change........

Obama blunders again on the world stage...

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I keep the windows up and the doors locked....them homies would steal the butter out of a bisquit....theys can't hep it, it's in theys blood.
Hear that at your nazi KKK meeting???

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