Colorado Shooting Rekindles Gun Contr...

Colorado Shooting Rekindles Gun Control Debate

There are 5105 comments on the Roll Call story from Jul 22, 2012, titled Colorado Shooting Rekindles Gun Control Debate. In it, Roll Call reports that:

Sen. Dianne Feinstein called for increased gun control in the wake of last week's Colorado shooting, saying it may have helped prevent the tragic incident.

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“Get RIGHT or be left”

Since: Nov 07

www.dreamindemon.com

#3505 Sep 17, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Knowing nothing doesn't even slow you down from posting, Fraud.
Why would you think there is a correlation?
Really, BARF-HOOF, you have to quit talking so mean to yourself!
Dr Freud

Germany

#3506 Sep 17, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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I guess it doesn't count when you do it, eh, Fraud?
I identify you for what you really are. If the truth hurts, maybe you should change your ways.
You resort to insults as a matter of course, imparting nothing by invective.
barefoot2626 wrote:
Do let me know when you can explain how a gun that gets dropped never goes off even though one of those bullet thingies come out the pointy end.
There are many brands and models of guns which have one or more built-in safety devices to prevent an AD. Famous amongst them is the Glock series of pistols, which simply will not discharge if it has not been intentionally modified. Drop it all day and it will simply bounce around. That same goes for many other pistols which various internal interlocks which must be operated by the possessor prior to actually discharging the pistol.
And, as I've pointed out earlier, the old western style of double-action revolvers could indeed be made to discharge if the hammer had not been set to the half-cocked position (as it should always be when rounds are in the cylinder).
In the case where that pistol's firing pin was resting upon the primer surface (hammer not in the half-cocked position), and if the pistol were either dropped such that it fell with sufficient force upon the hammer, it would cause the gun to discharge. In that same condition, if the gun were dropped face-on upon the muzzle, the force would likely be sufficient to cause the hammer to set-off the primer.
Now, how many more times do I have tell you that?
barefoot2626 wrote:
Do let us know what you meant when you said I was wrong when I said Jefferson owned hundreds of slaves and how I managed to get onto the internet and post all those lies all over the world saying he owned hundreds of slaves.
Do let us know how he was against slavery when he kept hundreds of slaves, traded in slaves, whipped slaves, and raped at least one over a long period of time resulting in little black Jeffersons.
You want repetition? Go read my words I posted previously.

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#3507 Sep 17, 2012
Dr Freud wrote:
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I identify you for what you really are. If the truth hurts, maybe you should change your ways.
WAHHHHHHHHHHHHH! WAHHHHHHHHHH! MOMMY! Barefoot throw it back in my face! WAHHHHHHHHHH!

400 slaves.

Pull up your panties, Fraud.

Since: Feb 11

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#3508 Sep 17, 2012
Dr Freud wrote:
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There are many brands and models of guns which have one
Oh dear, FRAUD, I guess you forgot we started with the statement: A dropped gun never goes off.

The gun gnutters have tried to move the goal posts, have tried to change it to bullets going off and bullets not going off and reading the instruction manual and it doesn't count if it's loaded...

Pretty pathetic.

Sort of like your explanation of how Jefferson wasn't really a slave owner even if he owned hundreds of slaves...

Since: Feb 11

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#3509 Sep 17, 2012
Dr Freud wrote:
Now, how many more times do I have tell you that?
You don't really think I have read your "explanation" FRAUD?

I have to say I love your explanation of how a gun doesn't go off, maybe you can use it on the next person who has a bullet hole in him sitting next one of your fellow dumbphuques and tell him how a gun can't go if it is dropped and he is bleeding from a hole he created with the power of suggestion.

Since: Feb 11

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#3510 Sep 17, 2012
AH! Here's your chance!

HOUSTON—A woman died after her brother dropped a gun, causing it to accidentally discharge and shoot her in the head on Saturday, according to police. She was 24-years-old.

Around 5:30 p.m., the brother and sister were reportedly returning home at Kinsbury and Wayland and the man was carrying a semi-automatic handgun in a holster to take into the house.

He told police that the gun slipped, fell onto the concrete front porch and accidentally went off. A bullet struck Rochelle Jackson in the head. She died at the scene.

No charges had been filed Monday morning as the investigation is continuing.

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Explain to him his sister isn't really dead!

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#3511 Sep 17, 2012
An accidental overnight shooting sent a man to a Beaumont hospital.

The incident happened about 2:45 a.m. at the Hacienda Apartments in the 4900 block of Highland Avenue, according to a Beaumont Police Department report.

A man getting out of a vehicle in the parking lot dropped his .40 caliber handgun causing it to discharge as it hit the ground, hitting another man in the lower abdomen, witnesses said.

The wounded man was taken to Christus St. Elizabeth Hospital where his condition was unknown Sunday afternoon.

No charges have been filed so far.

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Of course, the question here would be: why aren't there charges filed?

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#3512 Sep 17, 2012
NASHVILLE, TN (WSMV)-

Customers at a Publix in Murfreesboro survived a potentially deadly situation Sunday afternoon.

Police say a man in the store accidentally dropped his gun causing it to fire.

Fortunately, no one was injured.

Witnesses say the man was visibly shaken by the potential danger.

Police were contacted and the man waited at the front counter until they arrived.

Murfreesboro police would not say whether or not a citation was issued.

Copyright 2012 WSMV (Meredith Corporation). All rights reserved.

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#3513 Sep 17, 2012
Gun goes off in Starbucks

Teen cited after purse drop causes gun to discharge, narrowly missing a man

By Lindsey Erin Kroskob
lkroskob@wyomingnews.com

CHEYENNE -- A 17-year-old Cheyenne teen was cited Monday after she dropped her purse, causing the gun she was carrying in it to go off in a local coffee shop.

After the round fired, the girl said,“I think my purse went off!”

According to the Cheyenne Police report about the incident, the girl, whose name is being withheld because she is a juvenile, dropped her purse around 6:45 a.m. Monday while she was at the cash register at Starbucks, 1112 Central Ave.

Two Cheyenne Police officers were in the coffee shop at the time. Once they heard the gunshot, they drew their pistols and scanned the shop.

The officers approached the teen and searched her purse, which had a large hole in it.

They found a double-barrel .38 special Derringer pistol in the girl’s purse. The top barrel had been fired.

According to the report, the bullet missed John Basile, 43, by about 12 inches. After nearly missing Basile’s head, the bullet hit the west wall of the store, bounced back to the east and rolled under the coffee counter.

The officers had the teen call her parents, who responded to Starbucks shortly after the incident.

The girl’s father said he had given the teen the pistol and encouraged her to carry it while traveling for her protection.

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#3514 Sep 17, 2012
Funny how times a dropped gun that never goes off... goes off...
NoBlamer 2012

Mt Meadows Area, CA

#3515 Sep 17, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
Funny how times a dropped gun that never goes off... goes off...
esl failing you again ?

what do you get when you cross a MAGGOT with a cockroach ?

a bareFOOL thats what

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#3516 Sep 17, 2012
NoBlamer 2012 wrote:
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esl failing you again ?
Stick to knobbing freshman in Lassen Community College bathrooms, BOY.

Mpfhff mpfff mpff!

Since: Jul 12

Chester, VA

#3517 Sep 18, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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There's a lot of crap you read more often, due to the liberal biased MSM.
More likely those that support toting a gun overdo it on the carry side. I saw one study that claimed gun carriers stopped more crimes than were actually committed and reported during the year.

That is a load of crap.

Since: Jul 12

Chester, VA

#3518 Sep 18, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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Nope. Do you have reading comprehension issues?
Evidently you do. The conversation concerns a dropped gun going off. It does not indicate whether or not they are being handled within the manufacturers instructions. I have yet to see a manufacture address the proper way to drop a gun.

Never saw a car owners manual with a section on the best way to wreck either.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#3519 Sep 18, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>More likely those that support toting a gun overdo it on the carry side. I saw one study that claimed gun carriers stopped more crimes than were actually committed and reported during the year.

That is a load of crap.
How do you know?

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#3520 Sep 18, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>Evidently you do. The conversation concerns a dropped gun going off. It does not indicate whether or not they are being handled within the manufacturers instructions. I have yet to see a manufacture address the proper way to drop a gun.

Never saw a car owners manual with a section on the best way to wreck either.
If you follow the manufacturers recommendation for revolvers, it can not discharge if dropped. This is because they recommend keeping one cylinder chamber empty, in line with the hammer/firing pin.
As far as semi auto handguns, most have multiple failsafes built in to avoid accidental discharge. But again, the manufacturer recommends carrying the firearm with the chamber empty.
So you see, of you follow the manufacturer's recommendations, they don't have to provide recommendations on how to drop the firearm properly.
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#3522 Sep 18, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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How do you know?
Source considered.

Farmers hire you to sit in the back of their 4X P/U's and they drive through the fields while you run your mouth, rotating your head to one side than the other.

Surprised to see you here this time of the day. Must be raining...

Since: Jul 12

Chester, VA

#3523 Sep 18, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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How do you know?
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>There's a lot of crap you read more often, due to the liberal biased MSM.
The same way you knew.

Since: Jul 12

Chester, VA

#3524 Sep 18, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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If you follow the manufacturers recommendation for revolvers, it can not discharge if dropped. This is because they recommend keeping one cylinder chamber empty, in line with the hammer/firing pin.
As far as semi auto handguns, most have multiple failsafes built in to avoid accidental discharge. But again, the manufacturer recommends carrying the firearm with the chamber empty.
So you see, of you follow the manufacturer's recommendations, they don't have to provide recommendations on how to drop the firearm properly.
Now your point is that we have a lot of people carrying guns that either refuse to read the owners manual OR that completely disregard gun safety.

How does this support the notion of the responsible gun owner?

Your argument proves that gun owners recklessly disregard their own safety and the safety of others.

Since: Jul 12

Chester, VA

#3525 Sep 18, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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If you follow the manufacturers recommendation for revolvers, it can not discharge if dropped. This is because they recommend keeping one cylinder chamber empty, in line with the hammer/firing pin.
As far as semi auto handguns, most have multiple failsafes built in to avoid accidental discharge. But again, the manufacturer recommends carrying the firearm with the chamber empty.
So you see, of you follow the manufacturer's recommendations, they don't have to provide recommendations on how to drop the firearm properly.
How about this, any gun owner caught not following the manufacturers instructions to include loading ammo loses their right to own a gun and load ammo.

I mean if they are proven to be willing to endanger themselves and others by not following the directions for safely carrying and storing a firearm then they should not be allowed to, should they?

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