NSA Director Says Data Programs Foile...

NSA Director Says Data Programs Foiled Plots

There are 35 comments on the Wall Street Journal story from Jun 13, 2013, titled NSA Director Says Data Programs Foiled Plots. In it, Wall Street Journal reports that:

The director of the National Security Agency, defending his agency after days of furor over secret data-surveillance programs, said those government efforts had prevented dozens of terrorist attacks in recent years.

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MBMM

Blue Ridge, GA

#1 Jun 13, 2013
Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire!!!

WHAT ABOUT THE 4TH AMENDMENT!!!!!!!!!

Obama's clowns will say again thing to keep him from being blamed, when will he standup and take responsible for anything? I wonder what else he needs to do before congress will get off their a$$ and impeach him. What more can he blame on Bush? I guess he will still be blaming Bush when he leaves office, but that is par for the course for him. Just another step to obama's dictatorship!!!

"THOSE WHO SACRIFICE LIBERTY FOR SECURITY, SHALL HAVE NEITHER"
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“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#3 Jun 13, 2013
Let's see the data as proof any plots were foiled.
Cat74

United States

#4 Jun 13, 2013
Really? While he was checking on ordinary Americans to see what they ordered on their pizza last Saturday night, he some how missed the Muslim brothers ordering bomb making material to blow up Boston. Mosques, and their attendees didn't fall under the need to know about by our Muslim sympathizing government, How did that happen? They are only the real enemy of civilization, but they get a pass. We tried to warn you lo info voters before the election that you were being lied to, but you are stupid.
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Anonymous

Yanai, Japan

#6 Jun 13, 2013
The U.S. government has been tracking terrorists and high-profile criminals outside the U.S. borders. The issue is once those wanted individuals are inside America they are more difficult to track because the U.S. isn't as thorough and brutal on domestic matters. There are people that invade the borders that everyday citizens don't want there, unfortunately they're directly using non-American countries as transit routes. If you cannot understand the basic concepts of this then you need have some research to do.
Anonymous

Yanai, Japan

#7 Jun 13, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
Really? While he was checking on ordinary Americans to see what they ordered on their pizza last Saturday night, he some how missed the Muslim brothers ordering bomb making material to blow up Boston. Mosques, and their attendees didn't fall under the need to know about by our Muslim sympathizing government, How did that happen? They are only the real enemy of civilization, but they get a pass. We tried to warn you lo info voters before the election that you were being lied to, but you are stupid.
It is quite simple really, the bad people that are already in-country are not tracked as efficiently. That is why bogus shyt like you mentioned happened and will continue to happen, unfortunately.
Kill Them All

Medford, NY

#8 Jun 13, 2013
Close all the borders for four years and clean house. Then hunt down all terrorists globally and kill them. Just like the Jews have been hunting down the Nazis all over the globe following the Holocaust.
Cat74

United States

#9 Jun 13, 2013
Bull ca ca! The current government has no interest in checking the attendees of the mosques, because they don't see them as the enemy. Americans who own guns are the enemy of Obama's government. They know more about you, and what kind of toilet paper you use then they do about the local bomb makers. We can't offend those little bastards, you know.
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sinic

United States

#11 Jun 13, 2013
MBMM wrote:
Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire!!!
WHAT ABOUT THE 4TH AMENDMENT!!!!!!!!!
Obama's clowns will say again thing to keep him from being blamed, when will he standup and take responsible for anything? I wonder what else he needs to do before congress will get off their a$$ and impeach him. What more can he blame on Bush? I guess he will still be blaming Bush when he leaves office, but that is par for the course for him. Just another step to obama's dictatorship!!!
"THOSE WHO SACRIFICE LIBERTY FOR SECURITY, SHALL HAVE NEITHER"
Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

A threshold question in Fourth Amendment jurisprudence is whether a search has occurred. If no search occurred, then the Fourth Amendment does not apply.
In Katz v. United States, 389 U.S. 347 (1967), the Supreme Court ruled that a search occurs when 1) a person expects privacy in the thing searched and 2) society believes that expectation is reasonable. In Katz, the Supreme Court ruled that a search had occurred when the government wiretapped a telephone booth. The Court's reasoning was that 1) Charles Katz expected that his phonebooth conversation would not be broadcast to the wider world and 2) society believes that expectation is reasonable.
Where society's need is great and no other effective means of meeting the need is available, and intrusion on people's privacy is minimal, certain discretionless checkpoints toward that end may briefly detain motorists. In United States v. Martinez-Fuerte, 428 U.S. 543 (1976), the Supreme Court allowed discretionless immigration checkpoints. In Michigan Dept. of State Police v. Sitz, 496 U.S. 444 (1990), the Supreme Court allowed discretionless sobriety checkpoints. In Illinois v. Lidster, 540 U.S. 419 (2004), the Supreme Court allowed focused informational checkpoints. However, in City of Indianapolis v. Edmond, 531 U.S. 32 (2000), the Supreme Court ruled that discretionary checkpoints or general crime-fighting checkpoints are not allowed.

In a memo dated March 14, 2003, an official in the Bush administration stated "... our Office recently concluded that the Fourth Amendment had no application to domestic military operations". The administration believed that any search or surveillance conducted by the National Security Agency of US citizens communicating with foreign nationals abroad was immune to a Fourth Amendment challenge. To protect the telecommunication carriers cooperating with the US government from legal action, the Congress passed a bill updating the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 to permit this type of surveillance.

In August 2008, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of Review ruled that the President and the Congress had the authority to wiretap international phone calls and intercept e-mail messages without a specific court order.

What about the 4th amendment -- it's meaning in a given case is determined by the courts ...

Since: Oct 08

Alpharetta, GA

#12 Jun 13, 2013
an enemy that happily sends its children on suicide missions cannot be defeated.
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sinic

United States

#14 Jun 13, 2013
inbred Genius wrote:
an enemy that happily sends its children on suicide missions cannot be defeated.
Both ancient Greeks could do it ...
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#15 Jun 13, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
The U.S. government has been tracking terrorists and high-profile criminals outside the U.S. borders. The issue is once those wanted individuals are inside America they are more difficult to track because the U.S. isn't as thorough and brutal on domestic matters. There are people that invade the borders that everyday citizens don't want there, unfortunately they're directly using non-American countries as transit routes. If you cannot understand the basic concepts of this then you need have some research to do.
Yes, there are people that invade the borders of our country every day; people who wish to do harm to our country.

They are lost in the massive invasion of other illegal immigrants that the government now wants to allow to stay.

We don't know who is here. We don't know who will bring us harm.

Rather than violating EVERYBODY's right to privacy with super surveillance, it would be better to deport ALL people who illegally entered the country. It is a matter of national security!
fatbacks x

Colville, WA

#16 Jun 13, 2013
inbred Genius wrote:
an enemy that happily sends its children on suicide missions cannot be defeated.
True, but an enemy that lets itself be led by nuthatch politiians and corporate greed (us) will begat more of those children. We have to partner up with those children (who unlike us have memories of our bulls--t) like we pulled our chicom buddies to our bosom because, thanks to our corporate greed we honor slavery for a throw away jigsaw/w blades.

Since: Oct 08

Alpharetta, GA

#17 Jun 13, 2013
fatbacks x wrote:
<quoted text>True, but an enemy that lets itself be led by nuthatch politiians and corporate greed (us) will begat more of those children. We have to partner up with those children (who unlike us have memories of our bulls--t) like we pulled our chicom buddies to our bosom because, thanks to our corporate greed we honor slavery for a throw away jigsaw/w blades.
I'm not sure what you just said, but if it makes sense to you, it was brilliant.
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“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#19 Jun 13, 2013
tea-baggage wrote:
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Of course if this were still the W years – you’d be totally on the other side of the fence on this issue – but that’s just the way you fundamentally dishonest hypocrites operate.
You loons and your predictions are as moronic as you are yourselves. You have no clue what I thought of some or all of the things Bush did or whether I agreed with them. Anybody with a right mind knows that whether republican or democrat, there is not a perfect candidate. You have to pick and choose by the person, or his ideoligy.
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“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

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Paris

#23 Jun 13, 2013
tea-baggage wrote:
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You have thousands of posts that disprove your laughable claim of now being an unbiased voter who was never a Bush/Cheney apologist.
THOUSANDS
lol
Idiot, show me where I said I was an unbiased voter. I don't do communist and I don't do treasonist........go back to the sandpile and play with your shovel and bucket. That's Obama's shovel ready job you been wanting.
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Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#26 Jun 13, 2013
Of course plots were foiled...

There was the shoe bomber...oh wait, those were passengers...the bomber had eluded the "net"

Okay, okay, how about the panty bomber? Oh, yeah, passengers again...this guy flew one way, in cash, with no luggage, from an unfriendly country....not a red flag in sight

Times Sqare, Times Square, how about Times Square? The NSA must have gotten his records and social media, right? Nope...citizens again...

How about Fort Hood and Boston? Where was the social media flags and phone records? No citizens involved and all hell broke loose.

Now tell me how this thing works again? It seems like the American people should be brought in to intervene. NSA, DHS, et al, seem to be not doing a great job...
Cat74

United States

#27 Jun 13, 2013
You are right. If all this spying on Americans foiled any terrorist attacks maybe that idiot that said it did would like to enlighten us by telling us where these successes have been. What difference does it Make? Well it might be consoling to know somewhere our Idiot in Chief is attempting to keep us safe by spying on the right people. Right now all the Democrats in D C look like total fools.
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“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#29 Jun 13, 2013
tea-baggage wrote:
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wow - so now besides you being a renowned liar and idiot - we've confirmed that you have the reading comprehension skills of a first grade dropout - even for the stuff you write yourself.
That is, assuming that you actually type it, and aren't just screaming this stuff out loud while somebody who knows how to type inputs it for you.
lol
Did you lose your bucket pookie.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#30 Jun 13, 2013
Another Day wrote:
<quoted text>You have to admit that it is pretty damn funny watching them tripping all over their tongues. Just watching Jay Carney lie through his teeth da after day is funny.
FBI Director Testifies He Doesn't Know Who's Leading Investigation in IRS Case...WTF
conservative crapola

Orefield, PA

#31 Jun 13, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Did you lose your bucket pookie.
It's on your t-begging head. The other requirement for posting from location hidden.

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