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Ap Fact Check: Trumpa s claims on Calif. wildfires inaccurate

There are 49 comments on the TheCourier.com story from Aug 6, 2018, titled Ap Fact Check: Trumpa s claims on Calif. wildfires inaccurate. In it, TheCourier.com reports that:

President Donald Trump is claiming that California's water policy is shortchanging firefighters of water to battle the state's raging wildfires.

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OccupyThis

Lakeport, CA

#1 Aug 6, 2018
What is accurate is that the State of California has been derelict in their responsibility to ensure that they have adequate resources to fight these fires storms.

And these fire storms are not happening because of man caused climate change - which is a FRAUD.

These firestorms are happening because the Western half of the USA (and especially California) have been experiencing drought cycles for hundreds of thousands, if not millions of years. All one has to do is look at the native grasses in California in the summer time to see the evidence. IT'S RIGHT UNDER THEIR NOSES AND IN FRONT OF THEIR FACES. The native grasses are still lush and green and doing just fine in the height of the summer heat. It's the European grasses that are so dried out that they look BLEACHED. The native grasses have long ago evolved to deal with prolonged periods of extremely dry conditions - MILLIONS of years before the industrial revolution and the burning of fossil fuels.

The State of California is responsible for all this destruction. Are the progressives in California going to try and blame the utilities companies again for all the fires raging all over the friggen state this summer?

The State of California needs to put it's stupid high speed train to nowhere project on a shelf, stop giving away free solar panels at tax payers' expense and STOP paying the living expenses and healthcare costs for ILLEGAL FRIGGEN ALIENS.

I warned them all LAST YEAR that the firestorms would return again THIS SUMMER. They should have IMMEDIATELY began training air tanker pilots and invested in at least 100 new air tankers to to fight these fires. THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA IS ONCE AGAIN RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE DEATH AND DESTRUCTION!

WAKE UP! It's time to vote these incompetent and corrupt progressives OUT of government at all levels!

OccupyThis

Lakeport, CA

#2 Aug 6, 2018
Over 100 years of fire suppression in California combined with progressive globalism - the democrat party - This is the lethal cocktail that is burning the State of California to the ground.

Where are the law firms lining up to sue the state california? They can't blame the utility companies for what is happening here. The fault rests with Governor JimBeam and the State of California.

It's time for the people to RISE UP and vote these progressive democrats OUT!

The progressive globalist democrats ARE DESTROYING OUR COUNTRY...in more ways than one!
OccupyThis

Lakeport, CA

#3 Aug 7, 2018
The largest fire in California's entire progressive history is currently still growing largely out of control.

Eventually, there won't be anymore land to burn in California. Then the progressives and occupy the burned out slums all over the state with illegal aliens who will send in their charred ballots for the election of more progressive democrats who will offer more freebies to the illegals.

Of course, when the progressive democrats run out of everyone else's money - the people who chose to stay in California, the entire system will collapse and end up needing federal assistance (and probably federal troops) to maintain order in the State.

Many California residents can see the handwriting on the wall and are choosing to leave the state and greater and greater numbers.

The progressive democrats are destroying the entire state while simultaneously driving their sources of tax revenue to other states.
OccupyThis

Lakeport, CA

#4 Aug 7, 2018
It's unbelievable that Americans aren't talking about this issue.

The state of California is slowly but surely burning to the ground. This is a case study of the utter failure (and disaster) that is progressive globalism.

What more do the progressive democrats have to do to America and her people before American citizens will WAKE UP? The progressive democrats are burning an entire state to the ground through their own incompetence and corruption!

The political agenda to destroy America and reengineer society is so important to progressive democrats, that they are willing to allow entire states to literally BURN TO THE GROUND.

Wake up America! The enemy within is literally destroying everything you have.
Cordwainer Trout

Owensboro, KY

#5 Aug 7, 2018
Forest mismanagement especially and water mismanagement by Liberal leftover hippies is precisely the cause of the wild fires, except those intentionally set by the terrorists Democrat leadership and firebrands consistently protect.
OccupyThis

Lakeport, CA

#6 Aug 7, 2018
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
Forest mismanagement especially and water mismanagement by Liberal leftover hippies is precisely the cause of the wild fires, except those intentionally set by the terrorists Democrat leadership and firebrands consistently protect.
I have looked at many very old photographs of popular scenes in California. 100 plus year old photos of mountains and hills and lakes. Then I have seen pictures taken within the last few years of these exact same areas. In every case, there are several hundred times more trees and dead wood on the ground than there was 100 plus years ago.

It's a lethal cocktail is what it is. Progressive Democrat corruption and gross negligence with little to no regard for lives and property.

More than 100 years of aggressive fire suppression and environmental progressive laws preventing the needed thinning of forests, combined with modern day progressive democrat refusal to prepare for wild fires because they'd rather spend the money on free solar panels, a train to nowhere that nobody is going to use, and free healthcare and living costs for illegal aliens.

And consider the ENORMOUS amount of CO2 released into the earth's atmosphere as a result of all the wild fires in California thanks to progressive democrats and their criminally negligent policies. We are talking about THOUSANDS of times more CO2 from these progressive democrat caused wild fires than the entire nation produces in a decade.

An entire state burning literally to the ground is just the latest mass casualty of the progressive globalist democrat party.
Irish

Jacksonville, FL

#7 Aug 8, 2018
Its in Trumps best interest that CA burn to the ground, considering they have 55 Electoral votes that invariable are for Dems. Why would the dems want to lose this gift ?
Irish

Jacksonville, FL

#8 Aug 8, 2018
It seems Australia and New Zealand are sending firefighters to CA.
Trumps calls was too little and why tooooo late !!! WHY ?????
Do the math!
Called Out

Peabody, MA

#9 Aug 8, 2018
It would have been much more effective if Trump actually met with firefighters and California officials to learn about the situation before weighing in and posting inaccurate information.

Nobody expects a President to know everything. We the People of the United States expect a President to do his homework, meet with those who are experts and coordinate an effective plan.

A little bit of empathy would help too. The people who fight these fires are amazing and deserve every bit of extra help our government could provide.

This isnít the first round of wildfires Trump has witnessed as President. He has had ample time to deal with it.

Playing the armchair quarterback at this stage with inaccuracies is revealing how heartless and callous he really is.
OccupyThis

Lakeport, CA

#10 Aug 8, 2018
Called Out wrote:
It would have been much more effective if Trump actually met with firefighters and California officials to learn about the situation before weighing in and posting inaccurate information.

Nobody expects a President to know everything. We the People of the United States expect a President to do his homework, meet with those who are experts and coordinate an effective plan.

A little bit of empathy would help too. The people who fight these fires are amazing and deserve every bit of extra help our government could provide.

This isnít the first round of wildfires Trump has witnessed as President. He has had ample time to deal with it.

Playing the armchair quarterback at this stage with inaccuracies is revealing how heartless and callous he really is.
You should do your own homework from Peabody progressive MA.

California is a progressive democrat JOKE. Only it's not funny any more.

The progressive state of California is putting out firefighters at serious risk because they don't have adequate air support to protect out firefighters on the ground during these fire storms. These fires are no ordinary wild fires - THEY ARE FIRE STORMS.

You could have 1 million firefighters on the ground, and they'd be almost helpless in the face of these firestorms without air support. It doesn't matter how many men you have on the ground. A raging inferno several miles long with 100 plus foot high flames? YOU DON'T HAVE A CHANCE WITHOUT AIR SUPPORT.

Now you know-nothing IDIOT PROGRESSIVES FROM MA HAVE SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

President Trump is absolutely SPOT ON once again.
CZars_R_US

Orlando, FL

#11 Aug 8, 2018
OccupyThis wrote:
<quoted text>

You should do your own homework from Peabody progressive MA.

California is a progressive democrat JOKE. Only it's not funny any more.

The progressive state of California is putting out firefighters at serious risk because they don't have adequate air support to protect out firefighters on the ground during these fire storms. These fires are no ordinary wild fires - THEY ARE FIRE STORMS.

You could have 1 million firefighters on the ground, and they'd be almost helpless in the face of these firestorms without air support. It doesn't matter how many men you have on the ground. A raging inferno several miles long with 100 plus foot high flames? YOU DON'T HAVE A CHANCE WITHOUT AIR SUPPORT.

Now you know-nothing IDIOT PROGRESSIVES FROM MA HAVE SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

President Trump is absolutely SPOT ON once again.
Ain't this the same state that was so worried about a little fish that they cut off irrigation to a whole valley. And were not keeping the needed reservoirs filled etc.
OccupyThis

Lakeport, CA

#12 Aug 8, 2018
CZars_R_US wrote:
<quoted text>

Ain't this the same state that was so worried about a little fish that they cut off irrigation to a whole valley. And were not keeping the needed reservoirs filled etc.
That's the State alright.

The progressives in Sacramento cut off water to the State's FOOD Producers so that they could help the delta smelt...A MINNOW. Then, these progressives REFUSE to expand the state's water supply by building out more reservoirs.

All the state's tax dollars are going into their own pockets or to a train that nobody save a handful of Toyota Prius driving liberals will use, as well as to paying the living expenses and healthcare costs for ILLEGAL ALIENS.

Meanwhile, they've done next to NOTHING to ensure that our firefighters on the ground are protected FROM THE AIR by building out an adequate fleet of air tankers with trained pilots ready to fly them - THIS IS WHERE EVERYT LAST DIME SHOULD BE GOING AND THEY SHOULD HAVE IMMEDIATELY STARTED LAST YEAR.

But they didn't...NOT REALLY. And so now more lives and more property are being lost all over the state. It's like a repeat of recent history! The Mendocino complex fires have grown to become the largest fire in California history - AND IT'S STILL GROWING. I live not far from this fire, and AGAIN, I've only seen ONE AIR TANKER ONE TIME since the fire began.

Where are the pending LAWSUITS against the State of California!?????
OccupyThis

Lakeport, CA

#13 Aug 8, 2018
Maybe the State of California ought to stop giving away free solar panels and put those dollars towards a fleet of air tankers....and no doubt they will need legal representation (FINALLY) when their victims discover that it is the State government to blame for all this and NOT the Utility companies.
Putins Glock Holster

United States

#14 Aug 8, 2018
It is a good thing the fires in California can be directly traced to Democrats.
Luckily the Republicans have had nothing to do with the fires, because if the fires were their fault, then they would have to do something about it.
And the GOP does not do anything about anything ever.
YouDidntBuildTha t

Rohnert Park, CA

#15 Aug 8, 2018
OccupyThis wrote:
Maybe the State of California ought to stop giving away free solar panels and put those dollars towards a fleet of air tankers....and no doubt they will need legal representation (FINALLY) when their victims discover that it is the State government to blame for all this and NOT the Utility companies.
Great posts. BRAVO.
YouDidntBuildTha t

Rohnert Park, CA

#16 Aug 8, 2018
OccupyThis wrote:
What is accurate is that the State of California has been derelict in their responsibility to ensure that they have adequate resources to fight these fires storms.

And these fire storms are not happening because of man caused climate change - which is a FRAUD.

These firestorms are happening because the Western half of the USA (and especially California) have been experiencing drought cycles for hundreds of thousands, if not millions of years. All one has to do is look at the native grasses in California in the summer time to see the evidence. IT'S RIGHT UNDER THEIR NOSES AND IN FRONT OF THEIR FACES. The native grasses are still lush and green and doing just fine in the height of the summer heat. It's the European grasses that are so dried out that they look BLEACHED. The native grasses have long ago evolved to deal with prolonged periods of extremely dry conditions - MILLIONS of years before the industrial revolution and the burning of fossil fuels.

The State of California is responsible for all this destruction. Are the progressives in California going to try and blame the utilities companies again for all the fires raging all over the friggen state this summer?

The State of California needs to put it's stupid high speed train to nowhere project on a shelf, stop giving away free solar panels at tax payers' expense and STOP paying the living expenses and healthcare costs for ILLEGAL FRIGGEN ALIENS.

I warned them all LAST YEAR that the firestorms would return again THIS SUMMER. They should have IMMEDIATELY began training air tanker pilots and invested in at least 100 new air tankers to to fight these fires. THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA IS ONCE AGAIN RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE DEATH AND DESTRUCTION!

WAKE UP! It's time to vote these incompetent and corrupt progressives OUT of government at all levels!

Again, great posts!

Feinstein, in trying to defend California's progressive democrats policies that President Trump rightly criticized, claimed that California has 7 new air tankers!...and only 2 of them actually working to put out fires. That is a PATHETIC defense from Feinstein.

THEY'VE HAD MORE THAN A YEAR to prepare for this fire season. But they worked harder on their DUMB TRAIN project and on housing illegal aliens and paying for their healthcare and giving away FREE SOLAR PANELS than they did trying to prepare for these fires.

And Governor moonbeam actually had the GALL to say that these wild fires are the new norm? I think the American people and California residents are SICK AND TIRED of the progressive new norms!
Irish bystander

Jacksonville, FL

#17 Aug 9, 2018
Even a toothless redneck can see, California burning to the ground, favors Trump the master divider and deceiver !!
OccupyThis

Lakeport, CA

#18 Aug 9, 2018
YouDidntBuildThat wrote:
<quoted text>

Again, great posts!

Feinstein, in trying to defend California's progressive democrats policies that President Trump rightly criticized, claimed that California has 7 new air tankers!...and only 2 of them actually working to put out fires. That is a PATHETIC defense from Feinstein.

THEY'VE HAD MORE THAN A YEAR to prepare for this fire season. But they worked harder on their DUMB TRAIN project and on housing illegal aliens and paying for their healthcare and giving away FREE SOLAR PANELS than they did trying to prepare for these fires.

And Governor moonbeam actually had the GALL to say that these wild fires are the new norm? I think the American people and California residents are SICK AND TIRED of the progressive new norms!
That's right.

And California needs at least 100 air tankers to be able to adequately protect our fire fighters on the ground and to actually be capable of fighting these fires!

Progressive Globalist democrats have damn near destroyed California (they may succeed yet) as well as America herself. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH with progressive globalist democrats - THEY MUST BE CRUSHED IN NOVEMBER!

God bless President Trump!
Annie Oakly

Wilmington, IL

#19 Aug 9, 2018
Sorry. It isn't the President's responsibility to put out fires in California. That responsibility lies with Governor Moonbeam. He was too busy doing nothing to care about a little old fire, until it is damn near burning his state to ashes. Now he wants the President's help. After he has shown his behind to everyone. If I was the President I would give old Moonbeam the proverbial finger, but President Trump loves all his people so he will send help just as soon as Moonbeam takes a knee and asks for it.
OccupyThis

Lakeport, CA

#20 Aug 9, 2018
Annie Oakly wrote:
Sorry. It isn't the President's responsibility to put out fires in California. That responsibility lies with Governor Moonbeam. He was too busy doing nothing to care about a little old fire, until it is damn near burning his state to ashes. Now he wants the President's help. After he has shown his behind to everyone. If I was the President I would give old Moonbeam the proverbial finger, but President Trump loves all his people so he will send help just as soon as Moonbeam takes a knee and asks for it.
Look at the Cal Fire Map. There are massive fires breaking out all over the state - into Mexico in the south, and over the Oregon border to the north...even spilling over into the Nevada to the East.

Many of these fires are burning hundreds of thousands of acres in a single fire! And because the progressive democrats running the State spent all of our money on trains that nobody is going to use, and free solar panels and housing, food and medical care for ILEGAL IMMIGRANTS, there is no funding left to build out the needed air tankers in order even have a chance to stop these massive fire storms. And they're massive because of the same progressives and their asinine policies - And President Trump was absolutely RIGHT to criticize them.

So again, more actual legal American citizens and legal residents of the State of California are literally dying and/or having everything they own burned to the ground. And for what? To SERVE THE PROGRESSIVE GLOBALIST AGENDA TO DESTROY AMERICA AS WE KNOW IT AND REPLACE WITH PROGRESSIVE TYRANNY.

The Progressive Democrat State Government of California belongs in PRSION!

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