House Members Negotiate A Proposal On Immigration

Asian Guy wrote:

what troubles me is that everyone keeps talking about 11 million illegals that this amnesty will address.
so, what happens if more than 11 million illegals apply for the amnesty? what then?
are the idiots on capitol hill going to allow more to apply and be approved? where will they draw the line?
what happens if 50 million or 100 million apply for the amnesty?
something tells me nobody has considered the above scenario.

Obama and his instilled Administration just love(and we know this) playing with numbers as well as words. They have been deceiving the American people for so long we are have learned to read between the
lines and listen to what is not being said.

Suadela wrote:

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It's always nice to look at things in a positive,no fault manner. But, we cannot be so blind. Illegals are costing the taxpayers a pretty penny, the resources/costs to wean our the criminal aliens are not there. Remember , America is hanging by a thread economically, she is running on T ,,,rillions of Dollars debt. With that said, the logical thing to do would be for taxpayers to quit supporting them altogether through welfare,etc.This massive cost due to the influx of poor/uneducated illegal aliens will further bring down America financially. They will eventually self deport and apply to become part of our great Nation when their name is called when they go through the Legal process.

One thing i just wanna tell..we need some reform to resolve this problem .not all illegal immigrant is poor and make our economy worse..its all because of war that costing us billion ..are u forget thatt..war in iraq.war in afghanistan .now suddenly the blame all to illegal immigrant....and lots illegal immigrant pay TAX with id taxnumber and cant get benefittt ...people need to be fair .yes we know they wrong to come here illegaly...but we need some reform to fix..1. Make wall in the border.2. Give illegal immigrant who already here to have a patch to citizenship..since we cant deport them...once the wall already done..nobody cant cross the border..

juan wrote:

<quoted text> dont hate hijo de perra thats wuy we are better then you comprende

STFU bean boy.

I am an illegal alien with $250000 in my saving account. If provided that I can leave this country without the government touching my money, I will leave right away.

Awara wrote:

I am an illegal alien with $250000 in my saving account. If provided that I can leave this country without the government touching my money, I will leave right away.

All this money can get you back where you came from comfortably don't you think? whats stopping you from leaving? take your money and go, you obviously never intended to BECOME LEGAL. We only want legal immigrants. You're probably running around driving w/out a license OR INSURANCE. JUST GO.

Asian Guy wrote:

what troubles me is that everyone keeps talking about 11 million illegals that this amnesty will address.
so, what happens if more than 11 million illegals apply for the amnesty? what then?
are the idiots on capitol hill going to allow more to apply and be approved? where will they draw the line?
what happens if 50 million or 100 million apply for the amnesty?
something tells me nobody has considered the above scenario.

no thats not what troubles you asian guy you and every one that reads This knows what troubles you ha ha

mcfarlen wrote:

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I agre with u..house market gonna be boom.cause i know they will buy house in here for sure.and open some business to....and illegal immigrant love to shop..if i go to wallmart .everytime i see hispanic buy lots groceries like they wanna open a restaurant lol:) and if they pay fines and pay back taxes its give goverment billion..use that money to build walls in the border......

Oh yeah, they're big spenders for sure...big spenders of the taxpayer's money!!!!
Next time you get behind them in line at the grocery store, check out that EBT card they pull out with the American flag on it.
And who in their right mind believes these people are going to be made to pay fines and back taxes? We're feeding them as it is! Are we really stupid enough to believe any of this BS from those idiots in Washington? It will never happen!!!!

Awara wrote:

I am an illegal alien with $250000 in my saving account. If provided that I can leave this country without the government touching my money, I will leave right away.

You might want to get the word out to all of your illegal amigos that being a citizen of this country isn't all it's cracked up to be. You guys have been on easy street, but that's getting ready to change. You better get out why you can!!!!!

Amnesty Proposals will Cost Taxpayers Trillions.

"Heritage Foundation policy expert, Robert Rector, is estimating that the two proposals offered by the Senate Gang of Eight and Pres. Obama earlier this week will cost taxpayers trillions of dollars. He said the proposals are similar to the failed 2007 amnesty bill, which he estimated at the time to cost $2.5 trillion in Medicare and Social Security alone.

"[The proposal] seems to be virtually identical to the 2007 bill and would be extremely costly to the U.S. taxpayers," Rector told the Daily Caller. "Granting amnesty or legal status to illegals will generate costs in Medicare and Social Security alone of $2.5 trillion above any taxes paid in."

Rector estimates that 75-80 percent of illegal aliens have no more than a high school degree, so they're likely to draw more in services from the government than pay in.

"It's not like they pay in a lot when they are young, and they take it out when they're old. They are in fiscal deficit every year of their lives," he said. "For example, the typical household headed by someone who does not have a high school degree, as I said in that paper in 2007, got back then $30,000 in benefits and paid $10,000 [in income and consumption taxes]. It's a net cost of $20,000. That would be significantly higher now."

Rector said he's updating his study from 2007 that estimated the costs of an amnesty. He expects the figure to be higher because of the new healthcare law and he thinks the illegal alien population is larger now than it was in 2007."

https://www.numbersusa.com/content/news/janua...

barnes wrote:

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One thing i just wanna tell..we need some reform to resolve this problem .not all illegal immigrant is poor and make our economy worse..its all because of war that costing us billion ..are u forget thatt..war in iraq.war in afghanistan .now suddenly the blame all to illegal immigrant....and lots illegal immigrant pay TAX with id taxnumber and cant get benefittt ...people need to be fair .yes we know they wrong to come here illegaly...but we need some reform to fix..1. Make wall in the border.2. Give illegal immigrant who already here to have a patch to citizenship..since we cant deport them...once the wall already done..nobody cant cross the border..

We have a war right here at home on American soil. We've been invaded by Mexico and it is bankrupting us. Free education, free health care, free dental, free housing, free food; the list goes on and on. Who do you think foots the bills for all of these freebies? What we need to do is enforce our damn laws to the fullest extent. We're importing more poverty than we can handle!!!!

I hope the House puts stopping birthright citizenship in there.

Asian Guy wrote:

what troubles me is that everyone keeps talking about 11 million illegals that this amnesty will address.
so, what happens if more than 11 million illegals apply for the amnesty? what then?
are the idiots on capitol hill going to allow more to apply and be approved? where will they draw the line?
what happens if 50 million or 100 million apply for the amnesty?
something tells me nobody has considered the above scenario.

They don't care...it's all political. It doesn't matter how much damage they do to this country, as long as they advance their political agendas.

spytheweb wrote:

I hope the House puts stopping birthright citizenship in there.

Actually it's the most powerful magnet that attracts illegals here. It's the loophole they're found to tap into American benefits and gain access to the welfare states. Without the aid of their U.S. born children, they'd have no claim to the freebies they receive. It also saves many of them from deportation. The appeal of the 14th amendment will never happen though. Democrats will jump right in and accuse anyone who favors it of being mean-spirited and hateful to poor children of immigrants. I can hear it all now!!!!This plan will be a repeat of the '86 amnesty, except the numbers will be huge. The damage done to this country will be enough to bring it down to it's knees. More people will continue coming illegally...we all know what happens when people are rewarded for breaking laws. They will follow the same path as their fellow countrymen before them, because it worked out pretty good for them!!!!! They will reproduce as fast as they can to tap into benefits and they will become a burden to local states and communities. They will eventually bring the U.S. population growth to third world levels. This is the path we will follow and we'll never sustain it. It will be the end of this country as we know it.

barnes wrote:

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One thing i just wanna tell..we need some reform to resolve this problem .not all illegal immigrant is poor and make our economy worse..its all because of war that costing us billion ..are u forget thatt..war in iraq.war in afghanistan .now suddenly the blame all to illegal immigrant....and lots illegal immigrant pay TAX with id taxnumber and cant get benefittt ...people need to be fair .yes we know they wrong to come here illegaly...but we need some reform to fix..1. Make wall in the border.2. Give illegal immigrant who already here to have a patch to citizenship..since we cant deport them...once the wall already done..nobody cant cross the border..

Yes, they do get benefits. No, we don't have to make them all citizens one day. What did they do to deserve our highest honor that others stand in line for years in other countries waiting to get the opportunity to pursue? Are they better than those others waiting? Or, maybe nobody should wait. Maybe everybody who wants to should just show up and wait for the amnesty? That should shorten the line of folks waiting to enter legally a whole lot, huh?

Fed Up in North Carolina wrote:

<quoted text>We have a war right here at home on American soil. We've been invaded by Mexico and it is bankrupting us. Free education, free health care, free dental, free housing, free food; the list goes on and on. Who do you think foots the bills for all of these freebies? What we need to do is enforce our damn laws to the fullest extent. We're importing more poverty than we can handle!!!!

Can u try to go to wallmart and asking free food?
Can u try to go to doctor not hospital ? Did they give you free
Can u go to college for free?

The answer if u citizen sometime u can get that free..but if u doesnt have any document u cant get free...do u think government allow all that..foodstamp only for us citizen... somebody who doesnt have paperwork cant get ..what i meant is yes we give free education. only until highschool..yes we give freehealthcare at hospital..only at emergency.. just to be fairrrrrrr forum

NTRPRNR1 wrote:

<quoted text>Yes, they do get benefits. No, we don't have to make them all citizens one day. What did they do to deserve our highest honor that others stand in line for years in other countries waiting to get the opportunity to pursue? Are they better than those others waiting? Or, maybe nobody should wait. Maybe everybody who wants to should just show up and wait for the amnesty? That should shorten the line of folks waiting to enter legally a whole lot, huh?

Thats why i said build the damn wall so they cant cross the border..its our government wrong not to do that...

juan wrote:

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im here to stay you know the hispanics that baought house next door yea thats me

How could I miss it "juan" with three Mexican families living there with 15 kids and four junk cars in the Drive way with Garbage all over the front yard and a Mexican flag hanging on the front door!

LOL!!!

You will never, ever change this without voting for real hardline people. Or what is considered hardline people. Two party system. Most of them sell outs. Using the guilt issue to destroy us. Forget most Dem voting. And somehow after voting Repub, the candidate is different when in office. As long as we continue in this pattern, what you see will expand. This is not hate. Humanity is not sophisticated. But progressives made it that way causing more rifts then before they took over the nation. Instead of assimilation into the American way of living we have diverse cultures antagonizing and splitting away from living side by side with a common goal and getting worse. Now we are moving towards tyranny. This will not end. But we can make sure that a major say in that tyranny is us. And that is doable. Important positions in our police state apparatus can at least quell the insanity enabled by traitors to our nation. And they still exist all over. There will be pain and suffering. And after a time when we hit the depths of despair, we will wise up and restart the beauty of liberty and freedom. Lets face it. Many in our nation depend on checks every month. Someone has to pay for it. And it is growing. We all might know someone or some people who need it. With up to a third of our economy based o corruption, cleaning up all of these tentacles is going to be painful. If we are fortunate, maybe a generation after the tyranny at its worse starts subsiding, our descendents won't curse us. Sorry if I sound not hopeful. But we talk like we will do this or that, and we won't. And in history, most people don't as governments become oppressive.

Cricket 23 wrote:

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How could I miss it "juan" with three Mexican families living there with 15 kids and four junk cars in the Drive way with Garbage all over the front yard and a Mexican flag hanging on the front door!
LOL!!!

Please tell me, dear Cricket, why you bother to respond to Juan? He is a roach, a provocateur, an ignorant, Mexico-educated turd and soon-to-be deported wet ba xl?

deport deport deport wrote:

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Please tell me, dear Cricket, why you bother to respond to Juan? He is a roach, a provocateur, an ignorant, Mexico-educated turd and soon-to-be deported wet ba xl?

There are a few here who are to be ignored. They are agitators and instigators.