Abortion bills force both parties to ...

Abortion bills force both parties to rethink political calculus

There are 1168 comments on the The Washington Post story from Jul 6, 2013, titled Abortion bills force both parties to rethink political calculus. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

People gather outside the state legislature as Senate Republicans gave their final approval to legislation requiring additional rules surrounding abortions in North Carolina, even as hundreds of protesters against the bill watched from the gallery in Raleigh, N.C., Wednesday,July 3. As a member of the Wisconsin State Assembly years ago, Republican ... (more)

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Cujo

Regina, Canada

#43 Jul 8, 2013
Dan wrote:
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What "religion" was mentioned in the language of the bill? The article fails to mention it.
They didn't have too, the supporters of the bill talk all the time about how it goes against God's will and the bible. Just cause it is not written as such, does not mean we can't figure out their true intentions. Just like gay marriage,. They can say they don't hate gays all they want, but it is obviously religious bigitry.

Just out of curiousity, what is the reason for them wanting to restrict abortins, to the point where it's almost impossible in NC? Please, tell me why if it isn't religious?
Dan

Omaha, NE

#44 Jul 8, 2013
Cujo wrote:
<quoted text>
They didn't have too, the supporters of the bill talk all the time about how it goes against God's will and the bible. Just cause it is not written as such, does not mean we can't figure out their true intentions. Just like gay marriage,. They can say they don't hate gays all they want, but it is obviously religious bigitry.
Just out of curiousity, what is the reason for them wanting to restrict abortins, to the point where it's almost impossible in NC? Please, tell me why if it isn't religious?
All this recent legislation comes in the wake of the Gosnell thing.

It was bad for business. Pols want to be seen doing something.

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#45 Jul 8, 2013
x0x0x wrote:
<quoted text>Everything you just wrote is a lie and typical of the PRO-LIAR movement. Americans in general are far smarter than you bible toters and the majority of Americans support ROE v WADE but even more important, the Supreme Court has upheld the landmark decision for over 40 years. It will never be overturned, especially as our population explodes and jobs become harder and harder to obtain due to over population.
When you use a child as "punishment" for women who have sex, you lose your whole "life is precious" argument. Clearly, children aren't precious to you. They are a means to an end and that being you want to legally force all women to have children. Notice how you never mention men. It's like women are getting pregnant by emaculate conception. lmao Too funny! ReDICKulous, if you will.
PS: Abortions are done to indies, republicans, democrats and people who have never voted in their lives. Again, you're just digging your hole deeper and deeper. Keep going. You're as good at turning people away from the pro-liar movement as you are turning away prospective republican voters.
Here's an example of how smart women are:

CONTRACEPTIVE USE

• Fifty-four percent of women who have abortions had used a contraceptive method (usually the condom or the pill) during the month they became pregnant. Among those women, 76% of pill users and 49% of condom users report having used their method inconsistently, while 13% of pill users and 14% of condom users report correct use.[8]

• Forty-six percent of women who have abortions had not used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant. Of these women, 33% had perceived themselves to be at low risk for pregnancy, 32% had had concerns about contraceptive methods, 26% had had unexpected sex and 1% had been forced to have sex.[8]

• Eight percent of women who have abortions have never used a method of birth control; nonuse is greatest among those who are young, poor, black, Hispanic or less educated.[8]

• About half of unintended pregnancies occur among the 11% of women who are at risk for unintended pregnancy but are not using contraceptives. Most of these women have practiced contraception in the past.[9,10]

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abo...
Cat74

United States

#46 Jul 8, 2013
Again. Have sex. Get pregnant. Kill he unborn, but don't ask everyone else to pay for your great "Pleasure." There is something about laying around with anything still breathing that I personally find distasteful, but what ever makes your boat float. All I am asking is that some of these deadbeats you "pleasure" take financial responsibility. Otherwise that makes a woman a bit of a whore, except she doesn't get paid.
fingiswold

United States

#47 Jul 8, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
Since no one in my family would ever resort to an abortion I really don't care where other people get theirs. I am sure they will all be free under obamacare, so be my guest.
It's obvious you "don't care," but if you were informed, you'd know that the Hyde Amendment would prohibit government money from being used for an abortion. And whether a PRIVATE insurer provided such coverage is really none of your business at all.
fingiswold

United States

#48 Jul 8, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
Again. Have sex. Get pregnant. Kill he unborn, but don't ask everyone else to pay for your great "Pleasure." There is something about laying around with anything still breathing that I personally find distasteful, but what ever makes your boat float. All I am asking is that some of these deadbeats you "pleasure" take financial responsibility. Otherwise that makes a woman a bit of a whore, except she doesn't get paid.
What a viciously anti-woman post. If you want to prevent unwanted pregnancy, why do so many of your kind oppose even access to birth control?

Glad I'm not as hateful as you.
Cat74

United States

#49 Jul 8, 2013
I am glad I am not as free with sexual favors as you must be. How can you look at yourself if you are passed around from man to man like a piece of candy they never have to feed, or entertain, just bed. Is your momentary pleasure worth the loss of your self esteem?

“Leonardo Di Vinci died here”

Since: Nov 08

Perpignan

#50 Jul 9, 2013
conservative crapola wrote:
<quoted text>
American voters rejected evantalibanicals forcing their morals on the rest of America....since raygun brought them under 'his' tent. Suffer with your own narrow-mindedness, but pretend to be shocked that no one gives a shit about your stance. Now go order some more ky for your hands, slickie.
Oh my, you must be the bastard child of Obama bin Lying.........it runs in the family.

“Leonardo Di Vinci died here”

Since: Nov 08

Perpignan

#51 Jul 9, 2013
fingiswold wrote:
<quoted text>
What a viciously anti-woman post. If you want to prevent unwanted pregnancy, why do so many of your kind oppose even access to birth control?
Glad I'm not as hateful as you.
Who is being denied access pookie, the poor get them free, and the others don't need children if they can't afford $6 a month for pills, or $2.00 for a package of nose cones.

“BILLARY 2016 ”

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#52 Jul 9, 2013
Susanm wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's an example of how smart women are:
CONTRACEPTIVE USE
• Fifty-four percent of women who have abortions had used a contraceptive method (usually the condom or the pill) during the month they became pregnant. Among those women, 76% of pill users and 49% of condom users report having used their method inconsistently, while 13% of pill users and 14% of condom users report correct use.[8]
• Forty-six percent of women who have abortions had not used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant. Of these women, 33% had perceived themselves to be at low risk for pregnancy, 32% had had concerns about contraceptive methods, 26% had had unexpected sex and 1% had been forced to have sex.[8]
• Eight percent of women who have abortions have never used a method of birth control; nonuse is greatest among those who are young, poor, black, Hispanic or less educated.[8]
• About half of unintended pregnancies occur among the 11% of women who are at risk for unintended pregnancy but are not using contraceptives. Most of these women have practiced contraception in the past.[9,10]
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abo...
Humans are imperfect, MEN and women.
Women forget their birth control. Does that make them criminals?
In many cases, men could care less about birth control and often times refuse to use a condom because it interferes with their pleasure. Your post mentioned NOTHING about men and the last time I checked, you need a penis inside the vagina to make a baby. Duh!

As usual, your pro-liar argument always comes back to punishing women for having sex and how do you punish them? Forcing them to have that baby.

How can you say children are a blessing in one breath and then threaten having them as a form of punishment to the whore that dared to get laid?

Seriously, lady, get a life and stop spending so much time thinking about other women's vaginas. Maybe you're gay if other women are all you ever think about.

“BILLARY 2016 ”

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#53 Jul 9, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
Since no one in my family would ever resort to an abortion I really don't care where other people get theirs. I am sure they will all be free under obamacare, so be my guest.
bahahahahahaahhaa

Yeah, I bet no one in your family is gay either.

You people are dumber than dumb.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#54 Jul 9, 2013
Susanm wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's an example of how smart women are:
CONTRACEPTIVE USE
• Fifty-four percent of women who have abortions had used a contraceptive method (usually the condom or the pill) during the month they became pregnant. Among those women, 76% of pill users and 49% of condom users report having used their method inconsistently, while 13% of pill users and 14% of condom users report correct use.[8]
• Forty-six percent of women who have abortions had not used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant. Of these women, 33% had perceived themselves to be at low risk for pregnancy, 32% had had concerns about contraceptive methods, 26% had had unexpected sex and 1% had been forced to have sex.[8]
• Eight percent of women who have abortions have never used a method of birth control; nonuse is greatest among those who are young, poor, black, Hispanic or less educated.[8]
• About half of unintended pregnancies occur among the 11% of women who are at risk for unintended pregnancy but are not using contraceptives. Most of these women have practiced contraception in the past.[9,10]
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abo...
There is a difference between being poor and uneducated, and being stupid.

“BILLARY 2016 ”

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#55 Jul 9, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Oh my, you must be the bastard child of Obama bin Lying.........it runs in the family.
Are there no limits to your stupidity, Le Dumbo?
That's rhetorical so don't bother answering with
your lame humor and mindless, pubescent insults.

“Leonardo Di Vinci died here”

Since: Nov 08

Perpignan

#56 Jul 9, 2013
x0x0x wrote:
<quoted text>
Humans are imperfect, MEN and women.
Women forget their birth control. Does that make them criminals?
In many cases, men could care less about birth control and often times refuse to use a condom because it interferes with their pleasure. Your post mentioned NOTHING about men and the last time I checked, you need a penis inside the vagina to make a baby. Duh!
As usual, your pro-liar argument always comes back to punishing women for having sex and how do you punish them? Forcing them to have that baby.
How can you say children are a blessing in one breath and then threaten having them as a form of punishment to the whore that dared to get laid?
Seriously, lady, get a life and stop spending so much time thinking about other women's vaginas. Maybe you're gay if other women are all you ever think about.
They are accountable for their actions or lack of action. Stay out of bars and booty calls and it will solve many of their problems.
conservative crapola

Bethlehem, PA

#57 Jul 9, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>They are accountable for their actions or lack of action. Stay out of bars and booty calls and it will solve many of their problems.
Most prefer to stay out of the evantalibanical tabernacles.

Beware of ted haggard.....

hahahahahahahahahaha
Dan

Omaha, NE

#58 Jul 9, 2013
x0x0x wrote:
<quoted text>
Humans are imperfect, MEN and women.
Women forget their birth control. Does that make them criminals?
In many cases, men could care less about birth control and often times refuse to use a condom because it interferes with their pleasure. Your post mentioned NOTHING about men and the last time I checked, you need a penis inside the vagina to make a baby. Duh!
As usual, your pro-liar argument always comes back to punishing women for having sex and how do you punish them? Forcing them to have that baby.
How can you say children are a blessing in one breath and then threaten having them as a form of punishment to the whore that dared to get laid?
Seriously, lady, get a life and stop spending so much time thinking about other women's vaginas. Maybe you're gay if other women are all you ever think about.
The guy can't get pregnant. That's the way it is.

The woman can. Bearing this in mind, she forgets BC and lets the penis inside the vagina. She remembered that, but not the BC.

Dan

Omaha, NE

#59 Jul 9, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
There is a difference between being poor and uneducated, and being stupid.
8% is the figure cited for those described as poor and/or uneducated.

Lots of stupid left over, it appears.
Cat74

United States

#60 Jul 9, 2013
What sober woman, who knows they cannot afford to get pregnant, or even who just doesn't want to get pregnant is stupid enough to "forget" Her pill? Only drunken women or women high on drugs "forget" to take the pill. Tired of insane excuses from addled women.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#61 Jul 9, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
8% is the figure cited for those described as poor and/or uneducated.
Lots of stupid left over, it appears.
Oh, go fishing somewhere else, Dan. I'm not biting today. You and I have been debating for days now.

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#62 Jul 9, 2013
x0x0x wrote:
<quoted text>
Humans are imperfect, MEN and women.
Women forget their birth control. Does that make them criminals?
In many cases, men could care less about birth control and often times refuse to use a condom because it interferes with their pleasure. Your post mentioned NOTHING about men and the last time I checked, you need a penis inside the vagina to make a baby. Duh!
As usual, your pro-liar argument always comes back to punishing women for having sex and how do you punish them? Forcing them to have that baby.
How can you say children are a blessing in one breath and then threaten having them as a form of punishment to the whore that dared to get laid?
Seriously, lady, get a life and stop spending so much time thinking about other women's vaginas. Maybe you're gay if other women are all you ever think about.
Being imperfect should not justify killing.

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