Abortion bills force both parties to ...

Abortion bills force both parties to rethink political calculus

There are 1168 comments on the The Washington Post story from Jul 6, 2013, titled Abortion bills force both parties to rethink political calculus. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

People gather outside the state legislature as Senate Republicans gave their final approval to legislation requiring additional rules surrounding abortions in North Carolina, even as hundreds of protesters against the bill watched from the gallery in Raleigh, N.C., Wednesday,July 3. As a member of the Wisconsin State Assembly years ago, Republican ... (more)

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“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#397 Jul 20, 2013
ANOYMOUS wrote:
<quoted text>Just like feminists like you want to see men pt in and kept down and/or in prison. You are just another agent in the war on/against men and boys. YOU FEMINIST!
Newsflash: women being citizens, with the same rights to medical autonomy, personal risk assessment, and self-defense as men, in NO WAY 'keeps men down', much less in prison.

Womb envy much?

Feminist? You bet your ass.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#398 Jul 20, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
The male partner is party should she carry to term and give birth. He's liable financially at the time of birth for financial support.
At what point does a man risk his life or health to carry a pregnancy? Are you seriously comparing financial responsibility for a living child, with putting one's very life on the line to bring it into the world? That's asinine.
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>For discussion's sake, we'll stipulate that she never intends to carry to term.
An abortion isn't a hysterectomy, Bit. An abortion terminates and expels the developing human in utero.
Second party involved, if you insist. Two humans.
This is what I spoke of when I said "logic falling of the rails". Saying only a woman is involved in an action that terminates a human life other than hers requires a willing suspension of disbelief that I simply cannot comprehend.
Again - your comprehension (or lack thereof) is not required in this circumstance: if she doesn't want to remain pregnant, she doesn't have to.

It's really not that difficult a concept.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#399 Jul 20, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>Newsflash: women being citizens, with the same rights to medical autonomy, personal risk assessment, and self-defense as men, in NO WAY 'keeps men down', much less in prison.
Womb envy much?
Feminist? You bet your ass.
Bravo!

Perfect!

I am with you all the way!!

Funny how some expect women to be doormats.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#400 Jul 20, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>At what point does a man risk his life or health to carry a pregnancy? Are you seriously comparing financial responsibility for a living child, with putting one's very life on the line to bring it into the world? That's asinine.
<quoted text>Again - your comprehension (or lack thereof) is not required in this circumstance: if she doesn't want to remain pregnant, she doesn't have to.
It's really not that difficult a concept.
Dan always runs to the financial corner as though the woman/girl never pays a penny.

He ignores that SHE will be financially responsible along with 18 years and running of her time, effort and labor. But that is expected of women and we should feel sorry about the fella having to pitch in a few bucks. Many escape their financial obligation. Woe is them.

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#401 Jul 20, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
Why, when it's already been explained to you many times, and you just ignore the explaination?
Fetal homicide laws don't grant a fetus civil rights. If they did, they wouldn't exclude voluntary abortion.
You can't murder a fetus, only a person. The baby in the womb therefore is a person. Courts adjourned.

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#402 Jul 20, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
<quoted text>
Bravo!
Perfect!
I am with you all the way!!
Funny how some expect women to be doormats.
Funny how some expect women to be accountable for their actions.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#403 Jul 20, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Funny how some expect women to be accountable for their actions.
Put a rubber on, dummy.

Or go gestate something, if that's what peels your banana.

Next...

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#404 Jul 20, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>You can't murder a fetus, only a person. The baby in the womb therefore is a person. Courts adjourned.
When did you move to Afghanistan, Jim?

Courts here recognize that women are people - rights accrue at birth, in America.

Next....

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#405 Jul 20, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>You can't murder a fetus, only a person. The baby in the womb therefore is a person. Courts adjourned.
It's only called murder, IN A FEW STATES, because YOUR kind insisted on it, trying to get at legal abortion by a backdoor method. They failed, predictably.

It is not a person, and it has no civil rights. You're an ignoramous.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#406 Jul 20, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Funny how some expect women to be accountable for their actions.
Funny how they don't expect the same out of men. Funny as your kind have ran for eons from their responsibility.

Funny how abortion is being accountable for your actions. Funny how you do not recognize that. Funny how you expect women to be submissive and subservient to your will.

Funny that you don't pay more attention to your dick and less attention to the female reproductive organs. Funny how your beliefs encourage that.
Franken food

Ardsley, NY

#407 Jul 20, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
<quoted text>
Bravo!
Perfect!
I am with you all the way!!
Funny how some expect women to be doormats.
Women like you are doormats by your own making. You have no respect for yourself when you allow to be used by men. Then,to their total liking,you have their child exterminated. NO problem for the man who was selfishly using you and whom had no intention of taking responsibility for his actions.

You women kill are left to kill your child and soul while the men have already bedded the next bunch of doormats.

Wake up girls.
Franken food

Ardsley, NY

#408 Jul 20, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
<quoted text>
Funny how they don't expect the same out of men. Funny as your kind have ran for eons from their responsibility.
Funny how abortion is being accountable for your actions. Funny how you do not recognize that. Funny how you expect women to be submissive and subservient to your will.
Funny that you don't pay more attention to your dick and less attention to the female reproductive organs. Funny how your beliefs encourage that.
The men who use women are douche bags. They will pay for it when they meet their maker. They will also be accountable for the death of the innocent victims of abortion. You women want to act all "in control" yet,you are puppets.
Franken food

Ardsley, NY

#409 Jul 20, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
It's only called murder, IN A FEW STATES, because YOUR kind insisted on it, trying to get at legal abortion by a backdoor method. They failed, predictably.
It is not a person, and it has no civil rights. You're an ignoramous.
If you had your child's life executed in the womb,then you are a murderer by all means. Prior to the abortion,the human is growing-everything present. Don't even attempt to bullsheet your way out of your hatred for innocent human life. Talk back and forth to your fellow bullsheeter PC allies who are desperately,like you,seeking validation for your inhumane stance.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#410 Jul 20, 2013
Franken food wrote:
<quoted text>The men who use women are douche bags. They will pay for it when they meet their maker. They will also be accountable for the death of the innocent victims of abortion. You women want to act all "in control" yet,you are puppets.
That's rich. Men get to wait until they 'meet their maker' for 'judgment', but women gestate here on earth.

Puppets? Utter bunk. Women like sex too, fella. Nobody uses me for anything- I'm a married lady with a healthy sex drive, and if I want to have sex with my husband (and he's awake) I'll have it.

:)

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#411 Jul 20, 2013
Franken food wrote:
<quoted text>Women like you are doormats by your own making. You have no respect for yourself when you allow to be used by men. Then,to their total liking,you have their child exterminated. NO problem for the man who was selfishly using you and whom had no intention of taking responsibility for his actions.
You women kill are left to kill your child and soul while the men have already bedded the next bunch of doormats.
Wake up girls.
I am no such thing. A doormat is one who bows to male hierarchy and allows them to determine the best interests of women. I am in control of my best interests and if a pregnancy is not in my best interest then abortion it is.

You are talking to a married women who aborted do to health issues. You have no say and I am allowed self defense and self protection just as you are. Can't deal with that? Then GFY.

Got it?

By the way...save your religious sermons for those who are into male phallic worship. I am not one of them.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#412 Jul 20, 2013
Franken food wrote:
<quoted text>The men who use women are douche bags. They will pay for it when they meet their maker. They will also be accountable for the death of the innocent victims of abortion. You women want to act all "in control" yet,you are puppets.
Again. Save your religious references....not interested in male worshipping mythology.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#413 Jul 20, 2013
Franken food wrote:
<quoted text>If you had your child's life executed in the womb,then you are a murderer by all means. Prior to the abortion,the human is growing-everything present. Don't even attempt to bullsheet your way out of your hatred for innocent human life. Talk back and forth to your fellow bullsheeter PC allies who are desperately,like you,seeking validation for your inhumane stance.
Some facts for you.

There is no "child" in a uterus. If there was one, it would drown. Children are born, and can only breathe air.

Murder is an illegal term for an illegal act of killing. Any killing that is illegal cannot be called murder. Abortion kills the embryo/fetus, but it is legal. As you cannot HAVE killing that is legal and illegal at the same time, abortion is not murder.

I have had an abortion.

I work with pregnant and laboring women.

I volunteer with an organization that provides goods, services and education to pregnant and mothering teens.

I give to charities that help women and their children.

I have continued all three of my pregnancies, raising three amazing kids.

I have step-children and foster children who all still, even as adults, call me Mom.

I have 6 grandchildren.

There is no hatred there.

And none of this melodramatic nonsense from you refutes what I said.

Those are your facts for today.

Now what?
Franken food

Ardsley, NY

#414 Jul 20, 2013
LMFAO @ you all claiming to be married and parents. I highly doubt it with all the endless time that ya'll spend on here. You're a bunch of bored women who needs a focus. Too much time on your hands to kill. Spend some time,quality time and effort with your families. The void can't be filled in your life by sitting on abortion talk groups. It's kinda eery how you'll can spend your lives advocating harming to death someone's life. WTF would want that kind of existence? Hope ya'll don't fukup lives around you. Now don't go giving me no crazy talk about what a full functioning family/business people you are. Your daily presence speaks the word.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#415 Jul 20, 2013
Franken food wrote:
LMFAO @ you all claiming to be married and parents. I highly doubt it with all the endless time that ya'll spend on here. You're a bunch of bored women who needs a focus. Too much time on your hands to kill. Spend some time,quality time and effort with your families. The void can't be filled in your life by sitting on abortion talk groups. It's kinda eery how you'll can spend your lives advocating harming to death someone's life. WTF would want that kind of existence? Hope ya'll don't fukup lives around you. Now don't go giving me no crazy talk about what a full functioning family/business people you are. Your daily presence speaks the word.
Your speculations have nothing to do with reality. Just your desperate attempt to deflect from the fact that you cannot refute me. Oh well.

Only someone who really WAS all alone/unemployed wouldn't know that many people WORK on the computer, and that one doesn't need to sit AT the computer all day in order to post several times a day.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#416 Jul 20, 2013
Franken food wrote:
LMFAO @ you all claiming to be married and parents. I highly doubt it with all the endless time that ya'll spend on here. You're a bunch of bored women who needs a focus. Too much time on your hands to kill. Spend some time,quality time and effort with your families. The void can't be filled in your life by sitting on abortion talk groups. It's kinda eery how you'll can spend your lives advocating harming to death someone's life. WTF would want that kind of existence? Hope ya'll don't fukup lives around you. Now don't go giving me no crazy talk about what a full functioning family/business people you are. Your daily presence speaks the word.
I suppose you're laying it down telepathically, whilst you do brain surgery?

Get your own life, and quit worrying about the lives of others, troll.

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