Government shuts down after Congress ...

Government shuts down after Congress fails to pass spending bill

There are 809 comments on the USA Today story from Oct 1, 2013, titled Government shuts down after Congress fails to pass spending bill. In it, USA Today reports that:

The federal government shut down for the first time in nearly two decades following more than a week of legislative jockeying by House Republicans to extract concessions from President Obama and Senate Democrats on the Affordable Care Act.

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“THE LEFT IS ATTEMPTING A COUP”

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#483 Oct 5, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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I never said they did.(Reading Comprehension 101)
ACA was ruled a tax by the Supreme Court. ACA started in the Senate then went to the House. Revenue bills DO NOT start in the Senate.(civic 101)

“bar0ckalypse n0w”

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#484 Oct 5, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>yes, Taliban neighborhoods. and yet you still parrot the nonesense that he is a Muslim sympathizer....
being a parrot seems to be the only thing you can do as critical thinking is beyond your capabilities...
You don't think muslims kill other muslims? They kill everyone. They stone rape victims for adultery. They stone men for shaving. Look at Syria.

They're a bunch of tribal savages living in medieval times, like our ghetto and trailer inhabitants here in the US.

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#485 Oct 5, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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ACA was ruled a tax by the Supreme Court. ACA started in the Senate then went to the House. Revenue bills DO NOT start in the Senate.(civic 101)
It's the Law...It's the Law...It's the Law...It's the Law...

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#486 Oct 5, 2013
mjjcpa wrote:
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You don't think muslims kill other muslims? They kill everyone. They stone rape victims for adultery. They stone men for shaving. Look at Syria.
They're a bunch of tribal savages living in medieval times, like our ghetto and trailer inhabitants here in the US.
Allreligious cult freaks kill other religious cult freaks. it is the inherent divisiveness of religion...

yet Obama is not a muslim...

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#487 Oct 5, 2013
mjjcpa wrote:
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You don't think muslims kill other muslims? They kill everyone. They stone rape victims for adultery. They stone men for shaving. Look at Syria.
They're a bunch of tribal savages living in medieval times, like our ghetto and trailer inhabitants here in the US.
Tell us all about the "stone rape"???
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Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#489 Oct 5, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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ACA was ruled a tax by the Supreme Court. ACA started in the Senate then went to the House. Revenue bills DO NOT start in the Senate.(civic 101)
you misunderstood the SCOTUS ruling...

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#490 Oct 5, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>It's the Law...It's the Law...It's the Law...It's the Law...
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“THE LEFT IS ATTEMPTING A COUP”

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#491 Oct 5, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>you misunderstood the SCOTUS ruling...
Show me what I don't understand!

(CNN)-- In its ruling last week on the national health care law, the Supreme Court found that penalties the law places on people who don't buy health insurance count as a tax protected by the Constitution.

The Obama administration had argued that the fees should be considered a penalty. But the government also argued that the individual mandate can be viewed as constitutional under Congress' powers of taxation.

The high court rejected the "penalty" argument.

"The payment is not so high that there is really no choice but to buy health insurance; the payment is not limited to willful violations, as penalties for unlawful acts often are; and the payment is collected solely by the (Internal Revenue Service) through the normal means of taxation," Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in the decision.

The court noted that the law calls for no other punishments for refusal to buy health insurance.

Obama said mandate isn't tax in 2009
"Indeed, it is estimated that four million people each year will choose to pay the IRS rather than buy insurance," the decision said, citing figures from the Congressional Budget Office. "We would expect Congress to be troubled by that prospect if such conduct were unlawful."

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#492 Oct 5, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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Show me what I don't understand!
(CNN)-- In its ruling last week on the national health care law, the Supreme Court found that penalties the law places on people who don't buy health insurance count as a tax protected by the Constitution.
The Obama administration had argued that the fees should be considered a penalty. But the government also argued that the individual mandate can be viewed as constitutional under Congress' powers of taxation.
The high court rejected the "penalty" argument.
"The payment is not so high that there is really no choice but to buy health insurance; the payment is not limited to willful violations, as penalties for unlawful acts often are; and the payment is collected solely by the (Internal Revenue Service) through the normal means of taxation," Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in the decision.
The court noted that the law calls for no other punishments for refusal to buy health insurance.
Obama said mandate isn't tax in 2009
"Indeed, it is estimated that four million people each year will choose to pay the IRS rather than buy insurance," the decision said, citing figures from the Congressional Budget Office. "We would expect Congress to be troubled by that prospect if such conduct were unlawful."
the part that the ACA is a tax. the ACA is a complex bill covering many issues. part of it was ruled as a tax.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#493 Oct 5, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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ACA was ruled a tax by the Supreme Court. ACA started in the Senate then went to the House. Revenue bills DO NOT start in the Senate.(civic 101)
No, the individual mandate of the ACA was ruled constitutional under the taxing authority of Congress.

The ACA was never ruled to be a tax.

You're misinterpreting the SCOTUS ruling as usual.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#494 Oct 5, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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Show me what I don't understand!
(CNN)-- In its ruling last week on the national health care law, the Supreme Court found that penalties the law places on people who don't buy health insurance count as a tax protected by the Constitution.
The Obama administration had argued that the fees should be considered a penalty. But the government also argued that the individual mandate can be viewed as constitutional under Congress' powers of taxation.
The high court rejected the "penalty" argument.
"The payment is not so high that there is really no choice but to buy health insurance; the payment is not limited to willful violations, as penalties for unlawful acts often are; and the payment is collected solely by the (Internal Revenue Service) through the normal means of taxation," Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in the decision.
The court noted that the law calls for no other punishments for refusal to buy health insurance.
Obama said mandate isn't tax in 2009
"Indeed, it is estimated that four million people each year will choose to pay the IRS rather than buy insurance," the decision said, citing figures from the Congressional Budget Office. "We would expect Congress to be troubled by that prospect if such conduct were unlawful."
"powers of taxation" is different than "tax"
Responsibility

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#495 Oct 5, 2013
mjjcpa wrote:
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Bush didn't surrender like barock either.
Bush-baby got us into two wars where thousands have been killed.

Since: Feb 08

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#496 Oct 5, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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NO WAIVERS, NO EXEMPTIONS, NO WAIVERS, NO EXEMPTIONS , NO WAIVERS, NO EXEMPTIONS , NO WAIVERS, NO EXEMPTIONS , NO WAIVERS, NO EXEMPTIONS , NO WAIVERS, NO EXEMPTIONS , NO WAIVERS, NO EXEMPTIONS , NO WAIVERS, NO EXEMPTIONS , NO WAIVERS, NO EXEMPTIONS , NO WAIVERS, NO EXEMPTIONS , NO WAIVERS, NO EXEMPTIONS ,
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No teabag intelligence. No brainer. Retarded piece of fighwing dogshit. If you don't want a healthcare policy to supply your Thorazine, don't get one. No one will force you to treat your mental problems.

Since: Feb 08

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#497 Oct 5, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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Show me what I don't understand!
How much time do you have? Retarded piece of fightwing dogshit.

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#498 Oct 5, 2013
Responsibility wrote:
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Bush-baby got us into two wars where thousands have been killed.
Millions were liberated.

Freedom isn't free except for freeloading liberals.
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#500 Oct 6, 2013
mjjcpa wrote:
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Millions were liberated.
Freedom isn't free except for freeloading liberals.
Of course they were, in your world of ignorant and pathetic loons!! Your babbling is so based on your desperate ideology - ye moronic loon!
spud

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#501 Oct 6, 2013
mjjcpa wrote:
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Thank Bush for your low taxes.
bar0ck keeps threatening to raise them.
I don't know but every time either party claims to lower taxes, I end up paying more. I wish those guys would stop lowering taxes and start cutting spending. If nothing else, this partial shutdown has shown us how many unaffordable and unnecessary government jobs we have.

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#502 Oct 6, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>the part that the ACA is a tax. the ACA is a complex bill covering many issues. part of it was ruled as a tax.
WHERE did I not understand the ruling?

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#503 Oct 6, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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No, the individual mandate of the ACA was ruled constitutional under the taxing authority of Congress.
The ACA was never ruled to be a tax.
You're misinterpreting the SCOTUS ruling as usual.
Read my post #491. Where did I go wrong?

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Since: Nov 08

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#504 Oct 6, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>It's the Law...It's the Law...It's the Law...It's the Law...
So was Jim Crow.....now what pookie.

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