McCain: Prolonged execution was 'tort...

McCain: Prolonged execution was 'torture'

There are 63 comments on the Click Orlando story from Jul 26, 2014, titled McCain: Prolonged execution was 'torture'. In it, Click Orlando reports that:

Arizona has temporarily halted executions after the prolonged death of a convicted killer during an execution described by Sen. John McCain and others as tantamount to torture.

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Crybaby Cons

Manassas, VA

#2 Jul 26, 2014
So, McBlame was AWOL on the border crisis in his own state and has no influence or relationship with its Governor....but expects to be heard. Typical con.
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xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#4 Jul 26, 2014
Why do we have to off these MF"s with drugs? A few bullets would do the job quicker and easier. Then nobody can complain.

Since: Jan 09

Central NJ

#5 Jul 26, 2014
Why don't we just stuff their arms full of illicit heroin. ODing is a good way to go. Certainly not painful!
Regards, Terri
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#6 Jul 26, 2014
bannedagain3 wrote:
MC Cain knows what torture is and it is not prolonged execution John McCain is a poor excuse for a Republican
Tea partiers demand absolute adherence with their agenda which basically places them on the wrong side of all social and economic issues not to be shunned as a "rhino." Hence their non-empathic censure of John McCain, a former POW empathic with other victims of human rights abuse. It's shocking and sad that anyone would approve of government killing convicted criminals, especially using "experimental" procedures that the majority of the rest of the world regards as immoral. It's inhumane to execute people, especially by causing them to gasp for air for two hours.
Yep2

Hernando, FL

#7 Jul 26, 2014
Listening to McCain yowl is torture.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#8 Jul 26, 2014
kuda wrote:
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Tea partiers demand absolute adherence with their agenda which basically places them on the wrong side of all social and economic issues not to be shunned as a "rhino." Hence their non-empathic censure of John McCain, a former POW empathic with other victims of human rights abuse. It's shocking and sad that anyone would approve of government killing convicted criminals, especially using "experimental" procedures that the majority of the rest of the world regards as immoral. It's inhumane to execute people, especially by causing them to gasp for air for two hours.
What's really sad is that the manufacturers of the drug that killed these murderers quickly decided not to sell it to the US any longer because we were using their product for the death penalty.

Much like you, they are against our death penalty and were hoping these kind of things would happen so that it would further their agenda which is to try and stop executions.

This is the liberal way to solve a problem.
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Yep2

Hernando, FL

#11 Jul 26, 2014
This is all about banning the death penalty.

The argument that it is better 100 guilty be spared rather than one innocent be executed is compelling.

So murderers get life - and go to prison where they can kill other inmates and guards with impunity - how many innocents die because of leniency to a murderer?

So you put them in solitary - but then they would campaign that life solitary is cruel and unusual.

So you put them in murderers only prisons - where they kill each other and guards with impunity - until they campaign that that is cruel and unusual as well.
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#12 Jul 26, 2014
bannedagain3 wrote:
<quoted text> raping and killing 2 people in 1989 was a pleasant experience for his victims? Making this SOB drink Drano would have been too good for him 26 yrs on death row was cruel and unusual for the families of the victims
Save your liberal sympathy for those that deserve it
You illustrate the kind of thinking I've described. No one "deserves" to be tortured, even those who've tortured others. In common parlance, two wrongs don't make a right.
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kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#14 Jul 26, 2014
bannedagain3 wrote:
<quoted text> obviously we disagree. Let me ask you are you against the death penalty if it were swift and sure ?
Yes, definitely, even though I consider that a separate, in fact fundamental, issue. however, the principle is the same i.e., two wrongs don't make a right.

Why need you ask?
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#15 Jul 26, 2014
kuda wrote:
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You illustrate the kind of thinking I've described. No one "deserves" to be tortured, even those who've tortured others. In common parlance, two wrongs don't make a right.
Who are you to judge what people deserve? If you ask me, I think it should be the immediate families choice on how to punish the animal that changed their lives forever, don't you?

If something awful happened to a member of my family, not only would I want the animal to die, but I would want to see him tortured myself the mid-evil way. I would want to see him tied to the ground, and then place a cage of rats that have been starved for several days on his chest and stomach. Then place a few pounds of ground meat about two feet from the cage and slide the bottom tray out.

Getting rid of the death penalty would be torture to me. I would look at my state tax deduction from my paycheck knowing that I'm feeding, clothing, providing free medical care to the lowlife that killed a member of my family. Now that's torture.
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kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#17 Jul 26, 2014
POLICY STATEMENT

I welcome all opportunities to argue with anyone capable of arguing effectively and respectfully.

I'm willing to argue with those who may not be capable of arguing effectively, as long as they remain at least reasonably respectful.

I refuse to argue with those who've demonstrated their inability or unwillingness to remain at least reasonably respectful, as signified by having notified them of my having established such determination, which has no exertion date. When I consistently fail to respond to posters who attempt to respond to my posts, this is the reason.
Yep2

Hernando, FL

#18 Jul 26, 2014
kuda wrote:
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Yes, definitely, even though I consider that a separate, in fact fundamental, issue. however, the principle is the same i.e., two wrongs don't make a right.
Why need you ask?
Slogans are the refuge of the incompetent.

How does the murderer right the wrong done to the victim?

Got a slogan for that too?
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Yep2

Hernando, FL

#20 Jul 26, 2014
kuda wrote:
POLICY STATEMENT
I welcome all opportunities to argue with anyone capable of arguing effectively and respectfully.
I'm willing to argue with those who may not be capable of arguing effectively, as long as they remain at least reasonably respectful.
I refuse to argue with those who've demonstrated their inability or unwillingness to remain at least reasonably respectful, as signified by having notified them of my having established such determination, which has no exertion date. When I consistently fail to respond to posters who attempt to respond to my posts, this is the reason.
Fatuous much?
sandy1

Southold, NY

#21 Jul 26, 2014
I have no sympathy whatsoever for this murdering dirtbag. Insane McCain needs to be institutionalized,since the elitist peckeerhead seems more concerned about murderers and illegal vermin than he does about the law abiding American people.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#22 Jul 26, 2014
sandy1 wrote:
I have no sympathy whatsoever for this murdering dirtbag. Insane McCain needs to be institutionalized,since the elitist peckeerhead seems more concerned about murderers and illegal vermin than he does about the law abiding American people.
I don't know about that. I'm no McCain fan, but I think his service to our country as a POW has to be taken in consideration here. Even at his age, he probably still has nightmares about it.
sandy1

Southold, NY

#23 Jul 26, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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I don't know about that. I'm no McCain fan, but I think his service to our country as a POW has to be taken in consideration here. Even at his age, he probably still has nightmares about it.
I will always be grateful for his service to our country. However,he is one of the rinos pushing for amnesty which is unacceptable.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#24 Jul 26, 2014
bannedagain3 wrote:
<quoted text> While it has been proven that the death penalty does not deter murders I think it sure as hell makes the victims of some of horrendous crimes fell better knowing the scum that killed their wives and relatives is dead and buries A little pain for the person being executed is only an added bonus.
That guy in Fla that beat his sons molester into a misshapen lump deserves a medal for showing enough restraint that he did not kill the POS.
After being beaten to a pulp he should have had a 8' piece of rebar shoved up his AZZ so he could feel what real sexual assault feels like ....now that is street jsutice
The only reason the death penalty is not a deterrent is because of the appeals process and the fact in most states, it takes anywhere from 15 to 25 years to execute somebody.

If we could change that to say three months after conviction, the death penalty would have very positive results. Even the most violent people would have to consider they could be executed in a few months if they killed somebody, and even more of a deterrent to those who plan on killing somebody in a commission of another crime such as robbery.

During the winter, we had a robbery/ murder at a gas station around the corner from me; second one in the last five years. So far, they never found the suspect. Why did he kill a clerk that would have been more than happy to cooperate with him? For fifty bucks. That's it.

He was a middle-eastern guy going to college part-time and trying to raise a family. If the murderer is found, he could still get the death penalty, but in most cases, they agree to plea guilty to avoid it, and spend the rest of their lives in prison.
These are People

Fort Worth, TX

#25 Jul 26, 2014
Yep2 wrote:
This is all about banning the death penalty.
The argument that it is better 100 guilty be spared rather than one innocent be executed is compelling.
So murderers get life - and go to prison where they can kill other inmates and guards with impunity - how many innocents die because of leniency to a murderer?
So you put them in solitary - but then they would campaign that life solitary is cruel and unusual.
So you put them in murderers only prisons - where they kill each other and guards with impunity - until they campaign that that is cruel and unusual as well.
Why don't we just make prosecutors more responsible for their actions??? Many innocent people have spent years behind bars and on death row for a crime they did not commit. Sometimes these prosecutors are sitting on the evidence to free them and have not shared the information with the defense. Many times it takes years to clear them because the prosecutor is fighting against the testing of the DNA. Why do they fight against the testing if they were sure they were right? Why do we have just a slap on the hand type of punishment for them IF any punishment at all? All DNA that is requested for testing should be tested. No one should go to death without testing of DNA. So many people believe that with testing techniques we have now that no innocent person dies, but if it is not always being tested (which it isn't) then this is not true.
Deo Vindice

Sacramento, CA

#26 Jul 26, 2014
McCain is a democRAT in disguise.

How long did the scum take to murder his victim(s)?
democRATS do not concern themselves with victims, no matter how brutally they were murdered.

Let the scum suffer as long as possible, until he is dead !!!!

ONLY the Death Penalty cures recidivism.
Once he/she is dead, they will no longer victimize any human or animal again.
It send a message to all, especially to liberals, who most commit murder.
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#27 Jul 26, 2014
Deo Vindice wrote:
McCain is a democRAT in disguise.
How long did the scum take to murder his victim(s)?
democRATS do not concern themselves with victims, no matter how brutally they were murdered.
Let the scum suffer as long as possible, until he is dead !!!!
ONLY the Death Penalty cures recidivism.
Once he/she is dead, they will no longer victimize any human or animal again.
It send a message to all, especially to liberals, who most commit murder.
Your assertion that "McCain is a democRAT in disguise" is both false and immature in format. I would hope at least for a logical argument to convince, not capitalizing the last three letters of "Democrat" as a grade school attempt at humor.

Your argument that dead people can't commit murder is, of course, true. However, it's devoid of the moral consideration that it's immoral to kill people toward that end, a position that the majority of the world assumes and holds true. It's as barbarian to kill murders for killing their victims as it is for them to have committed murder.

Your assertion that most murders are liberals if that's what you meant to say makes no sense, especially since you could cite no statistics to support such an absurd claim.

My position is based on the ethical principle that killing people is wrong, even when our victims have been convicted of the most gruesome murder. Please note that I specify "convicted of murder" convicted by humans who sometimes wrongfully convict. I would welcome anyone arguing with me about my ethical concern, but it's beside the point for posters to continue protesting it without a valid ethical argument.

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