Election Opportunity?Immigration Plan...

Election Opportunity?Immigration Plans to Have Major Electoral Implications

There are 122 comments on the Fox News story from Jan 30, 2013, titled Election Opportunity?Immigration Plans to Have Major Electoral Implications. In it, Fox News reports that:

The immigration overhaul plans being pitched by a group of senators and President Obama each include the possibility of citizenship for illegal immigrants -- and with that comes major electoral implications for Democrats and Republicans in future elections.

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Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#116 Feb 5, 2013
serfs up wrote:
In its history America has needed to slow down when the cup stopped runneth over. the cup has been half filled for many years now with a nation running full speed ahead in its changes. This is the issue. Progressives fear the end of their movement if they give in. Without the resources filling that cup, they will crash and burn. And there are no resources as they impoverish honest men and women who did no wrong. Stealing their dollars for their movement while blaming the wealthy for all of our problems. The seeds of mistrust that progressives have embellished on their followers has decimated the foundation of America. The innocent victims of this terror have no voice even if they lived a comfortable life for many years. Sadly, many of those aging our going into their senior years with very little unlike their parents. At twice the number of the previous generation the costs are going to be several times as much to provide for them. Anyway, America would close the border up once in a while as a way to refill the cup for a nation to build up its wealth. Just one of many ways we don't do that anymore.
A 'serf's out' cupfull of drivel.
Anonymous

Wilmette, IL

#117 Feb 5, 2013
serfs up wrote:
In its history America has needed to slow down when the cup stopped runneth over. the cup has been half filled for many years now with a nation running full speed ahead in its changes. This is the issue. Progressives fear the end of their movement if they give in. Without the resources filling that cup, they will crash and burn. And there are no resources as they impoverish honest men and women who did no wrong. Stealing their dollars for their movement while blaming the wealthy for all of our problems. The seeds of mistrust that progressives have embellished on their followers has decimated the foundation of America. The innocent victims of this terror have no voice even if they lived a comfortable life for many years. Sadly, many of those aging our going into their senior years with very little unlike their parents. At twice the number of the previous generation the costs are going to be several times as much to provide for them. Anyway, America would close the border up once in a while as a way to refill the cup for a nation to build up its wealth. Just one of many ways we don't do that anymore.
Excellent ! I agree.
serfs up

Melbourne, FL

#118 Feb 5, 2013
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>All you write is 'serf's out' drivel. Oh yeah! no kidding
What the hell are you talking about, Saul?
serfs up

Melbourne, FL

#119 Feb 5, 2013
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>A 'serf's out' cupfull of drivel.
What the hell are you talking about, Saul?
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Billy Ringo

United States

#121 Feb 5, 2013
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> I tried to write is simple enough for even you to understand. For that comment I would watch a thug take a piece of rebar and shove it up your youngest relative's azz through its body and out its skull and then into your diseased azz. We all ph uk with each other and that's what its all about. Of course that would be with enacted laws. And employed by them to enforce it. And those laws exist today. Just not enforced....yet... Oh yeah! Just kidding..
Do you, you know, have a girlfriend or anything?

Go out with her Saturday night, have fun and enjoy life.

au contraire

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#122 Feb 5, 2013
Billy Ringo wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you, you know, have a girlfriend or anything?
Go out with her Saturday night, have fun and enjoy life.
With commie stooges like you around, who can relax?
serfs up

Melbourne, FL

#123 Feb 5, 2013
Billy Ringo wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you, you know, have a girlfriend or anything?
Go out with her Saturday night, have fun and enjoy life.
I don't get it. You get back what you give and you come back with this! I must be missing something on what you wrote, because that would be the tip of the iceberg for what seems to ail many of the progressives who rant on the threads of TOPIX.
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#124 Feb 5, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Same here, which is why I support them going to the back of the line to get their green card, as well as paying fines and back taxes.
If they are going to go to the back of the line that means they have to leave the country and wait their turn just like every honest immigrant. That is what the pro-illegals have been fighting against for years so we know that that will never happen. As for fines and back taxes that is a joke. There is no way to calculate the taxes they owe since there are no records of them or the money they have made illegally while here and there is no legal way for them to earn the money to pay the fine or back taxes until after they are given legal status. Is the government capable of tracking down those illegals that do not pay once they are granted legal status? If they do track them down do you think that they will actually be deported? The only fair and sensible way is if those who leave and apply to enter legally were granted amnesty meaning they can apply immediately once they leave the country rather than having to wait 10 years like the law currently requires. Even that will screw those honest immigrants who apply after the illegal aliens and of course the American citizen. It is a given that the American citizen will pay for “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” in money and suffering no matter how strict the rules are or how well run the bureaucracy that this creates is run.
How about we create a “Department of Undocumented Immigrants” to deal with “documenting” illegal aliens and deporting those that do not qualify and the cost of operating that department plus 10% is levied on each “undocumented immigrant” who wishes to become legal every year until there are no more “undocumented immigrant” in the country? This would remove the burden from the tax payer and place it on those who should be paying for it. Maybe the agriculture industry and other industries that claim to need illegal labor would also pay a special tax to defray the cost of making their workers legal.
Billy Ringo

United States

#125 Feb 5, 2013
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> I don't get it. You get back what you give and you come back with this! I must be missing something on what you wrote, because that would be the tip of the iceberg for what seems to ail many of the progressives who rant on the threads of TOPIX.
You don't get it?

Obviously ..........
serfs up

Melbourne, FL

#126 Feb 5, 2013
Billy Ringo wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't get it?
Obviously ..........
What the hell are you talking about, Saul?

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#127 Feb 5, 2013
58% of Hispanics live in California and Texas. They live in the southwest because they do not assimilate. They will never live far from the border. Plus Hispanics are the group who is least likely to vote than other groups, they just don't care. So don't believe the hype in the media.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#128 Feb 5, 2013
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
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If they are going to go to the back of the line that means they have to leave the country and wait their turn just like every honest immigrant. That is what the pro-illegals have been fighting against for years so we know that that will never happen. As for fines and back taxes that is a joke. There is no way to calculate the taxes they owe since there are no records of them or the money they have made illegally while here and there is no legal way for them to earn the money to pay the fine or back taxes until after they are given legal status. Is the government capable of tracking down those illegals that do not pay once they are granted legal status? If they do track them down do you think that they will actually be deported? The only fair and sensible way is if those who leave and apply to enter legally were granted amnesty meaning they can apply immediately once they leave the country rather than having to wait 10 years like the law currently requires. Even that will screw those honest immigrants who apply after the illegal aliens and of course the American citizen. It is a given that the American citizen will pay for “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” in money and suffering no matter how strict the rules are or how well run the bureaucracy that this creates is run.
How about we create a “Department of Undocumented Immigrants” to deal with “documenting” illegal aliens and deporting those that do not qualify and the cost of operating that department plus 10% is levied on each “undocumented immigrant” who wishes to become legal every year until there are no more “undocumented immigrant” in the country? This would remove the burden from the tax payer and place it on those who should be paying for it. Maybe the agriculture industry and other industries that claim to need illegal labor would also pay a special tax to defray the cost of making their workers legal.
Sorry, never going to happen.

It's either amnesty or they remain here illegally. Those are the only 2 choices.

Either way, they're not going anywhere.
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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#130 Feb 5, 2013
spytheweb wrote:
58% of Hispanics live in California and Texas. They live in the southwest because they do not assimilate. They will never live far from the border. Plus Hispanics are the group who is least likely to vote than other groups, they just don't care. So don't believe the hype in the media.
Texas goes blue by 2020 because of increase in hispanic voters.

Once that happens it's all over for the GOPasaus; they'll never win another national office.

au contraire

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#131 Feb 5, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Texas goes blue by 2020 because of increase in hispanic voters.
Once that happens it's all over for the GOPasaus; they'll never win another national office.
You must assume a lot of other things also.......like perversions should be normal.
Billy Ringo

United States

#132 Feb 5, 2013
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>You must assume a lot of other things also.......like perversions should be normal.
h

.... or that Etchy had 325 electoral votes.

au contraire

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#133 Feb 5, 2013
Billy Ringo wrote:
<quoted text>h
.... or that Etchy had 325 electoral votes.
Court: NYTimes's Request for List of City Gun Owners Violates Law...The more liberals push this faux grab, the more motivated honest citizens will be in 2014.
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Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#135 Feb 5, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, never going to happen.
It's either amnesty or they remain here illegally. Those are the only 2 choices.
Either way, they're not going anywhere.
Then let them stay illegally and we can enforce the law and go after those who encourage and exploit illegal aliens. Obviously that is the best way to go for the country and the citizens but most likely we will end up granting amnesty to every illegal and then waiting another 20 years or so and granting amnesty to the additional 111 million illegal aliens that come after this amnesty expecting another. Just like the deficit the problem will just be passed to future generations long after the politicians, ethnic supremacists, business owners and others who have profited from illegal immigration are long gone.
Our parents and grandparents left a legacy of freedom, equality, self sacrifice and prosperity and we will leave a legacy of ethnic division, greed, subservience, and poverty.
Billy Ringo

United States

#136 Feb 5, 2013
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>Court: NYTimes's Request for List of City Gun Owners Violates Law...The more liberals push this faux grab, the more motivated honest citizens will be in 2014.
Absolutely - in 2014, we take back the House.

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/134...

au contraire

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#137 Feb 5, 2013
Billy Ringo wrote:
<quoted text>
Absolutely - in 2014, we take back the House.
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/134...
In 2014 you get to pick your own wall.
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au contraire

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#139 Feb 5, 2013
conservative crapola wrote:
<quoted text>
gjames, by 2014 you'll be up to 50 aliases. If Obama doesn't give you a coronary first.
hahahahahahaha
Tell us again why Obama isn't President due to his parents not being both citizens. I really enjoyed that part.

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