Justices: Can't Make Employers Cover Contraception

Jun 30, 2014 Full story: National Public Radio 341

The Supreme Court ruled Monday that some corporations can hold religious objections that allow them to opt out of the new health law requirement that they cover contraceptives for women.

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xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#152 Jul 3, 2014
Captain Yesterday wrote:
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Hobby Lobby's telling their employees what their religion should be, as is the entire religious Right. Be Christians or you don't have any rights. Why whine about gays having "special rights" when we all know it's Bible-thumpers who demand them?
You're lying about liberals, obviously, but your kind lie about most things. You're the fascist, you and the Teabagger right.
ANd in reply to your other idiotic, POS post, you don't get to tell women what kind of contraception to use. In case you didn't know it, women don't have dicks. So why aren't men using condoms? I know it's pointless asking YOU, but...
But......you like most Democrats believe that if government doesn't pass out goodies to women, they are too stupid and frail to figure out how to get those goodies themselves.

Hobby Lobby never told their employees what kind of religion they are to have. What they told their employees is that they will not be forced into participating in activities of their employees personal lives that they find religiously objective.

I'm diabetic, and not once has my company's insurance paid for my life sustaining medication. I pay for it with cold hard cash, and it's sure a hell of a lot more expensive than birth control or morning after pills.

So why didn't Commie Care include medication or prescriptions for life saving medication over recreational drugs like birth control or abortion pills? Because it was never about what's best for Americans. It was about vote buying by pandering to a potential political base like women. But you puppets will never admit to that.

In the meantime, because of all this nonsense, my employer dropped our medical coverage and now I don't have any like millions of others. But that's okay from a liberal point of view. As long as they can get the women vote, F the rest of America.
Bonsai

Carmel, IN

#153 Jul 3, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
But......you like most Democrats believe that if government doesn't pass out goodies to women, they are too stupid and frail to figure out how to get those goodies themselves.
Hobby Lobby never told their employees what kind of religion they are to have. What they told their employees is that they will not be forced into participating in activities of their employees personal lives that they find religiously objective.
I'm diabetic, and not once has my company's insurance paid for my life sustaining medication. I pay for it with cold hard cash, and it's sure a hell of a lot more expensive than birth control or morning after pills.
So why didn't Commie Care include medication or prescriptions for life saving medication over recreational drugs like birth control or abortion pills? Because it was never about what's best for Americans. It was about vote buying by pandering to a potential political base like women. But you puppets will never admit to that.
In the meantime, because of all this nonsense, my employer dropped our medical coverage and now I don't have any like millions of others. But that's okay from a liberal point of view. As long as they can get the women vote, F the rest of America.
Your story infuriates me and yet the liberal media is silent on plights such as yours. Let us know how oscumma care is working although I'm truly sorry you were forced into it.
Bonsai

Carmel, IN

#154 Jul 3, 2014
Captain Yesterday wrote:
<quoted text>
Hobby Lobby's telling their employees what their religion should be, as is the entire religious Right. Be Christians or you don't have any rights. Why whine about gays having "special rights" when we all know it's Bible-thumpers who demand them?
You're lying about liberals, obviously, but your kind lie about most things. You're the fascist, you and the Teabagger right.
ANd in reply to your other idiotic, POS post, you don't get to tell women what kind of contraception to use. In case you didn't know it, women don't have dicks. So why aren't men using condoms? I know it's pointless asking YOU, but...
you do realize there are condoms for women and he said he was concerned about his wife's health and used condoms so she wouldn't have to take risks with the bc bill. Some women are never suppose to use the pill based family history.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#155 Jul 3, 2014
Bonsai wrote:
<quoted text>Your story infuriates me and yet the liberal media is silent on plights such as yours. Let us know how oscumma care is working although I'm truly sorry you were forced into it.
I wasn't forced into it. I just have no medical coverage at all now. Because of Commie Care, not only did premiums on employers increase dramatically, but it gave employers a way out of providing insurance via Commie Care.

The problem? The healthcare plans on Commie Care for people like me would cost me well over $500.00 per month. Now let me ask: how many working people do you know have an extra $500.00 a month after all their expenses are paid?

It's unrealistic. Why? Because anybody with an extra $500.00 a month after expenses would have been applying that money towards other bills such as credit cards, second mortgages or car payments. Those who don't have those expenses would have been using that extra $500.00 per month towards their children's college accounts or perhaps in personal investments.

I'm 54 years old now, and this is the first time in my life I've ever been without medical insurance. I was responsible enough to gain a career where my skills were needed thus allowing me to make acceptable money and gain employment where medical insurance was a benefit.

I guess it's like the question Reagan once asked "Are you better off today than you were four years ago?" My answer is NO. And my answer is the same of many Americans in this country. Because the only people better off than they were four years ago are the lower or non-producers of our society.
Cat74

Algonquin, IL

#156 Jul 3, 2014
I have a question? If these women are working why can't they buy their own B C? Soon Democrats will want us to buy their toilet paper too. Well, they need that too. What else?

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#157 Jul 3, 2014
Captain Yesterday wrote:
<quoted text>
Hobby Lobby's telling their employees what their religion should be, as is the entire religious Right. Be Christians or you don't have any rights. Why whine about gays having "special rights" when we all know it's Bible-thumpers who demand them?
You're lying about liberals, obviously, but your kind lie about most things. You're the fascist, you and the Teabagger right.
ANd in reply to your other idiotic, POS post, you don't get to tell women what kind of contraception to use. In case you didn't know it, women don't have dicks. So why aren't men using condoms? I know it's pointless asking YOU, but...
First of all , I am a libertarian, not a Teabagger and , Unlike you fascist I dont believe in telling ANYONE how to live their life.What people do in their private life is none of my business.But if you send me the bill for your lifestyle then it becomes my business
So live your life anyway you want to, as long as it does not effect me I dont care.
But here people are tried to send the bill for their lifestyle to other people and that I object to.
And if you read other threads you would know i am a big believer in Condoms, have used them in the past. My wife and I used condoms beccause they have no bad side effect, while no drug is totally safe. A real man should not be afraid to put on a raincoat to protect the woman he loves.
I dont use condoms now because I had a vasectomy, which is easier and safer for a man to have done then having my wife get a tubal ligation.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#158 Jul 4, 2014
Cat74 wrote:
I have a question? If these women are working why can't they buy their own B C? Soon Democrats will want us to buy their toilet paper too. Well, they need that too. What else?
Of course they can buy their own birth control pills. But you have to remember it doesn't fit into the Democrat strategy.

The Democrat strategy is to turn Americans against each other: Rich vs Poor, working vs non-working, black vs white, gay vs straight, etc, etc.

Once they pit us against each other, Democrats decide which parties are the victims.

In this case, they pitted the men vs women. They are trying to do this so women would feel like victims, and as we all know, victims need Democrats.

Because women are victims, the Democrats make some women believe they are too stupid to obtain their own birth control medications, and will fight against evil male Republicans for justice and equity.

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#159 Jul 4, 2014
Captain Yesterday wrote:
<quoted text>Hobby Lobby's telling their employees what their religion should be, as is the entire religious Right. Be Christians or you don't have any rights. Why whine about gays having "special rights" when we all know it's Bible-thumpers who demand them?

You're lying about liberals, obviously, but your kind lie about most things. You're the fascist, you and the Teabagger right.

ANd in reply to your other idiotic, POS post, you don't get to tell women what kind of contraception to use. In case you didn't know it, women don't have dicks. So why aren't men using condoms? I know it's pointless asking YOU, but...
Yawn, no fool, they are telling employees what their personal religion. Go to Cuba, sounds right up your alley..........well except for no free chit. You would have to work.

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#160 Jul 4, 2014
Bonsai wrote:
<quoted text>Its not just for crafts although it is a great place for school projects. The pricing is better than the competition and the quality is amazing. I found some fabulous medieval items for a theme party. Shop their sales and you're money ahead. I found some inexpensive accessories for my daughter's dorm room, frames for my son's posters cheaper than any place in town. I suspect their business will spike with all this publicity. I admire them for going toe toe against that dirtbag. I just wish they were open on Sundays......but I respect that, however.
That's liberals all right, still want to be in Roman times.
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“Captain Yesterday's the Future”

Since: Oct 10

New New York

#162 Jul 4, 2014
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>
That's liberals all right, still want to be in Roman times.
LOL..that might be the dumbest, most disingenuous bit of idiocy you've ever posted. Talk about projection...:)

“Captain Yesterday's the Future”

Since: Oct 10

New New York

#163 Jul 4, 2014
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>
Yawn, no fool, they are telling employees what their personal religion. Go to Cuba, sounds right up your alley..........well except for no free chit. You would have to work.
Sorry, that post was ALMOST as dumb as the one that followed it...:)

“Captain Yesterday's the Future”

Since: Oct 10

New New York

#164 Jul 4, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course they can buy their own birth control pills. But you have to remember it doesn't fit into the Democrat strategy.
The Democrat strategy is to turn Americans against each other: Rich vs Poor, working vs non-working, black vs white, gay vs straight, etc, etc.
Once they pit us against each other, Democrats decide which parties are the victims.
In this case, they pitted the men vs women. They are trying to do this so women would feel like victims, and as we all know, victims need Democrats.
Because women are victims, the Democrats make some women believe they are too stupid to obtain their own birth control medications, and will fight against evil male Republicans for justice and equity.
Not one word of that is true, other than the fact that women are sometimes victims - of ReTHUGlican policies and hatred, and tolerance of crimes against women.

“Captain Yesterday's the Future”

Since: Oct 10

New New York

#165 Jul 4, 2014
Bonsai wrote:
<quoted text>you do realize there are condoms for women and he said he was concerned about his wife's health and used condoms so she wouldn't have to take risks with the bc bill. Some women are never suppose to use the pill based family history.
You do realize that I'm saying that people like you, and corporations like Hobby Lobby, SHOULDN'T GET TO DECIDE what medications women need based on religion, don't you?

Oh, no, apparently you don't.

Because you'd also know that some women also take the Pill for reasons OTHER than birth control - regulation of periods, sometimes in relation to other conditions, that sort of thing.

“Captain Yesterday's the Future”

Since: Oct 10

New New York

#166 Jul 4, 2014
This doesn't even take into account a couple of the more obvious arguments against Hobby Lobby:

First, that they DO allow their insurance to pay for OTHER FORMS OF BIRTH CONTROL. So claiming a religious objection to birth control is obviously hypocritical and mendacious on their part.

Second, that there are NO prohibitions of either birth control OR ABORTION in the Christian faith as stated in its Holy Bible or as part of its long history. These objections are, in fact, a RECENT article of "belief" on the part of a few extremist Xian groups only. Other Xians don't believe as they do. Therefore, their "religious" objections are not legitimate on religious grounds, either.

“Captain Yesterday's the Future”

Since: Oct 10

New New York

#167 Jul 4, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
..blah, blah....I guess it's like the question Reagan once asked "Are you better off today than you were four years ago?" My answer is NO. And my answer is the same of many Americans in this country. Because the only people better off than they were four years ago are the lower or non-producers of our society.
Another example of your ignorance and wrong-headedness. In fact it's the UPPER crust of society which are flourishing as never before (stock market +17,000, anyone?) while the poor and lower middle-class get screwed.

If you don't even know what's going on, why do you even bother to argue about it?
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#168 Jul 4, 2014
Captain Yesterday wrote:
<quoted text>
Another example of your ignorance and wrong-headedness. In fact it's the UPPER crust of society which are flourishing as never before (stock market +17,000, anyone?) while the poor and lower middle-class get screwed.
If you don't even know what's going on, why do you even bother to argue about it?
I do know what's going on. And you are correct, there has never been a wider gap between the middle-class and the wealthy. Thanks DumBama.

But the bubble being built in the stock market today will make the housing crash look like a pikers loss. The feds can't keep artificially keep that bubble growing forever. Like the housing crash, the stock market too will crash. But then again, the libs will just say it's Bush's fault.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#169 Jul 4, 2014
Captain Yesterday wrote:
This doesn't even take into account a couple of the more obvious arguments against Hobby Lobby:
First, that they DO allow their insurance to pay for OTHER FORMS OF BIRTH CONTROL. So claiming a religious objection to birth control is obviously hypocritical and mendacious on their part.
Second, that there are NO prohibitions of either birth control OR ABORTION in the Christian faith as stated in its Holy Bible or as part of its long history. These objections are, in fact, a RECENT article of "belief" on the part of a few extremist Xian groups only. Other Xians don't believe as they do. Therefore, their "religious" objections are not legitimate on religious grounds, either.
Most religions look at abortion as murder, and yes, murder is a serious concern of God's. In fact, it's one of his top ten. Now can you name a religion in the US that supports murder or abortions? Because all the religions I'm aware of are strictly against both.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#170 Jul 4, 2014
Captain Yesterday wrote:
<quoted text>
You do realize that I'm saying that people like you, and corporations like Hobby Lobby, SHOULDN'T GET TO DECIDE what medications women need based on religion, don't you?
Who's deciding that? Women are still free to purchase any medications they desire. Who's stopping them? Certainly not Hobby Lobby or any company that I know of.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#171 Jul 4, 2014
Captain Yesterday wrote:
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Not one word of that is true, other than the fact that women are sometimes victims - of ReTHUGlican policies and hatred, and tolerance of crimes against women.
Everything I say is true.

If there were no victims in the US, who would need Democrats? Did you ever stop to think about that?

Ask yourself: out of all the medications government insisted an employer provide, why a recreational medication like birth control pills?

You Cradle-to-Gravers are going to be the end of this country yet.
Don Joe

Maple Grove, MN

#172 Jul 4, 2014
Bonsai wrote:
<quoted text>Are you high? This about a businesses right to decide the kind of health coverage they want to provide. Get a grip.
You must be a whacked out sicko right winger who believes that owning slaves is just find and dandy. This is the right wing packed supreme court setting another precedent that corporations do not have to obey any laws. They are above the law and can use any excuse, no matter how ridiculous to void the law.

So you tell me why you believe those who work, should not have any of the fruit of their labor? What is so scary about the middle class that you have to have it destroyed?

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