U.S. had early indications Libya atta...

U.S. had early indications Libya attack tied to organized militants

There are 98 comments on the Reuters story from Oct 2, 2012, titled U.S. had early indications Libya attack tied to organized militants. In it, Reuters reports that:

Within hours of last month's attacks on U.S. diplomatic facilities in Benghazi, Libya, President Barack Obama's administration received about a dozen intelligence reports suggesting militants connected to al Qaeda were involved, three government sources said.

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Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#71 Oct 3, 2012
Ballybunion wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you, I simply took exception to woodtick's double standard. War is Hell as they say, but I am a little squeamish about so much drone use. I understand they keep our guys safe, but, not everyone is an enemy. It's a fine line we must tread but to put out that only the enemy is killed is just not the truth.
Would only the enemy be killed if we stored the villages with troops? i bet you'd see a lot of those people you seem to think of as civilians to support your slanted view pick up arms and start shooting at US troops...

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#72 Oct 3, 2012
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>how has the middle class been buried? Try and use you own words here...(that's really funny! le jimbo using his own words or thoughts...)
Well we can start with;

$4 gas
food up 25%
Utilities up 27%
Water up 12%
Jobs down upteen percent
School cost skyrocket
21 taxes of Obama Tax.
Dollar lowest in decade.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#73 Oct 3, 2012
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Would only the enemy be killed if we stored the villages with troops? i bet you'd see a lot of those people you seem to think of as civilians to support your slanted view pick up arms and start shooting at US troops...
It's a fact, in war people die. Some military some civilian.........just depends if you want to win or play army. Kinda of a Patton or Ike against someone like Kerry or Jane Fonda.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#74 Oct 3, 2012
Obama has given the same speeches and campaigned since elected......When he leaves the White House in January, he will have finally have done something to help the contry.

Obama to the Presidency is what the Volt is to GM......expensive and a failure.
Razors Edge

Palos Hills, IL

#75 Oct 3, 2012
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>It's a fact, in war people die. Some military some civilian.........just depends if you want to win or play army. Kinda of a Patton or Ike against someone like Kerry or Jane Fonda.
hey jimbo,

Military Awards

West's awards and decorations include the Bronze Star; Meritorious Service Medal (two Oak Leaf Clusters); Army Commendation Medal (three Oak Leaf Clusters, one Valor Device); Army Achievement Medal (one Oak Leaf Cluster); Valorous Unit Award; Air Assault Badge; and the Master Parachutist Badge.[3]

[edit] Iraq interrogation incident

While serving in Taji, Iraq, West received information from an intelligence specialist about a reported plot to ambush him and his men.[11] The alleged plot reportedly involved Yahya Jhodri Hamoodi, a civilian Iraqi police officer.[11] West, who was not responsible for conducting interrogations in Iraq and had never conducted nor witnessed one, had his men detain Hamoodi.[11] In the process of detaining Mr. Hamoodi, soldiers testified that Hamoodi appeared to reach for his weapon and needed to be subdued.[11] Hamoodi was beaten by four soldiers from the 2/20th Field Artillery Battalion on the head and body.[12] West then fired his pistol near Hamoodi's head,[11] after which Hamoodi provided West with names and information, which Hamoodi later described as "meaningless information induced by fear and pain."[11] At least one of these suspects was arrested as a result, but no plans for attacks or weapons were found.[11] West said "At the time I had to base my decision on the intelligence I received. It's possible that I was wrong about Mr. Hamoodi."[11]

West was charged with violating articles 128 (assault) and 134 (general article) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. During a hearing held as part of an Article 32 investigation in November 2003, West stated, "I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers."[12] The charges were ultimately referred to an Article 15 proceeding rather than court-martial, at which West was fined $5,000.[11] Lieutenant Colonel West accepted the judgment and retired with full benefits in the summer of 2004. Asked if he would act differently under similar circumstances again, West testified, "If it's about the lives of my soldiers at stake, I'd go through hell with a gasoline can."[12] At his hearing, West pointed out that there were no further ambushes against American forces in Taji until he was relieved of his leadership post on October 4.[13]After West's retirement he received more than 2,000 letters and e-mails offering him moral support.[11] A letter supporting West was signed by 95 members of Congress and sent to the Secretary of the Army.[11] Moreover, conservative David Horowitz's online publication FrontPage Magazine, named West its 2003 Man of the Year, for "valuing his own troops' lives over the mental well being and self-esteem of an Iraqi terrorist."[6

Tired of the evil uniformed Liberal Trash bad mouthing Col.Allen West.So lets get it out in
the open,Any one who has served would appreciate
the importance of Interrogation,enhanced or just
any method to extract intel,that could save our
troops from death.In Combat conditions,the world
is devoid of a lot of restraints,main purpose is
staying alive,having your buddies backs,food,and
sleep.Discharging a 1911 next to a suspected and
connected Islamic Terrorist,under these type of
conditions,beats the sh8t out of cranking some
volts and setting his genitals on fire!! Lets
be real people,what kind of a CO,Would he have
been to neglect this issue and risk his troops
getting killed maime?? I trust even the liberals\
will accept the reasons behind the incident.he
should never have been charged with anything,and
bear in mind seeing his troops,maimed killed etc
does not put him in the most compassionate frame
of mind,Just to remind you all,War is Hell!!!

(See main purpose should read killing the enemy)

wikipedia.com

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#76 Oct 3, 2012
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>It's a fact, in war people die. Some military some civilian.........just depends if you want to win or play army. Kinda of a Patton or Ike against someone like Kerry or Jane Fonda.
There are right ways to win and wrong ways to win. i prefer to be on the side of the team that plays by the rules.
Razors Edge

Palos Hills, IL

#77 Oct 3, 2012
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>There are right ways to win and wrong ways to win. i prefer to be on the side of the team that plays by the rules.
WTF? Idiot what fkg rules??? give us a break go play with
your sand box JR...Geesshh rules what a fkg Sissy!!!do you
imagine the USMC,or any Special forces are a fkg Democracy
Imbecile!!!

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#78 Oct 3, 2012
Razors Edge wrote:
<quoted text>
WTF? Idiot what fkg rules??? give us a break go play with
your sand box JR...Geesshh rules what a fkg Sissy!!!do you
imagine the USMC,or any Special forces are a fkg Democracy
Imbecile!!!
Are you saying they have no rules of engagement?

Once again you post without thinking or knowing...
Razors Edge

Palos Hills, IL

#79 Oct 3, 2012
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Are you saying they have no rules of engagement?
Once again you post without thinking or knowing...
Oh yeah,you mean like the Geneva Convention,
Well today its changed a little to light em
all up,and do recon by fire!!!BTW,all those
Muslims have rules of engagement too its a
Jihad,and means blow every Ameican to hell
anyway we can????

Thinking,or knowing uh? I served you fkg
ignorant know nothing REMF.Now GFY.....
Razors Edge

Palos Hills, IL

#80 Oct 3, 2012
typo American..

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#81 Oct 3, 2012
Razors Edge wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh yeah,you mean like the Geneva Convention,
Well today its changed a little to light em
all up,and do recon by fire!!!BTW,all those
Muslims have rules of engagement too its a
Jihad,and means blow every Ameican to hell
anyway we can????
Thinking,or knowing uh? I served you fkg
ignorant know nothing REMF.Now GFY.....
if you really did serve, you would know about rues of engagement. Stolen valor or too stupid to think for yourself?
Joe Biden

Philadelphia, PA

#82 Oct 3, 2012
Even I will be voting for Romney

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#83 Oct 3, 2012
Enough with Al-Qaeda already, its starting to feel like a bad joke now. And I have another question weren't the Libyan rebels and the FSA Al-Qaeda linked but yet they had (FSA still has) America's support what happened.

“Old 16th Graveyard hole”

Since: Nov 11

Philadelphia, PA

#84 Oct 3, 2012
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Well we can start with;
$4 gas
food up 25%
Utilities up 27%
Water up 12%
Jobs down upteen percent
School cost skyrocket
21 taxes of Obama Tax.
Dollar lowest in decade.
Amen! Gas right now is the killer! I spend $60+ just to fill the tank and I seldom let it get lower than 1/4 tank to cut the sticker shock. Food is astronomical, just the basics are skyrocketing, chicken, milk, eggs, bread - all out of this world. And thanks to the funny money from the Fed. return on 401K and other investments are no even close to what they were. Many senior citizens are having to do with far less than they planned on. Also, it's the QE whatever number it is now, that's driving up the cost of commodities which, of course, leads to even higher food and fuel costs.

“Old 16th Graveyard hole”

Since: Nov 11

Philadelphia, PA

#85 Oct 3, 2012
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Are you saying they have no rules of engagement?
Once again you post without thinking or knowing...
LOL - In hand to hand combat, no, not since the British lost the fight with the rugged American fighters who threw the stupid, stand in a line and shoot, drop to your knee and let the line behind you shoot, drop to your knee, etc. etc. rules out. There are rules concerning POW's, but otherwise it's pretty much kill or be killed.

The only rules are vague and seem to all apply to air strikes.

Look it up, it's all there to be seen.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#86 Oct 3, 2012
Ballybunion wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL - In hand to hand combat, no, not since the British lost the fight with the rugged American fighters who threw the stupid, stand in a line and shoot, drop to your knee and let the line behind you shoot, drop to your knee, etc. etc. rules out. There are rules concerning POW's, but otherwise it's pretty much kill or be killed.
The only rules are vague and seem to all apply to air strikes.
Look it up, it's all there to be seen.
Really? I've heard differently from my family and friends that were in Iraq and Afghanistan. What do you base your fiction on?
Razors Edge

Palos Hills, IL

#87 Oct 3, 2012
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>if you really did serve, you would know about rues of engagement. Stolen valor or too stupid to think for yourself?
In modern conflict against violent nonstate actors like Hamas, Hezbollah or guerrilla groups in Iraq and Afghanistan, it may be in the best interests of the dominant military actor to adhere to rules of engagement that go beyond the laws of land warfare and international conventions. As the United States military has discovered in both Iraq and Afghanistan, civilian casualties have a direct effect on the effectiveness of operations in the strategic sense.

Here troll,Engage this,Grabs Crotch

Next time listen to people who know and have lived life!!
now stop the Bs,listen and learn,from people with experience
in issues you can only dream of...now I repeat.GFY..Ok??
You look like the fool you are rules of engagement when
involved in U/O Stupid Jerk!!

Oh yeah as you have no fkg idea,U/O means urban ops!!
Now no more trolling me,no more bull shit name calling
you are on my ssh8t list sonny boy@!!

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#88 Oct 3, 2012
Razors Edge wrote:
<quoted text>
In modern conflict against violent nonstate actors like Hamas, Hezbollah or guerrilla groups in Iraq and Afghanistan, it may be in the best interests of the dominant military actor to adhere to rules of engagement that go beyond the laws of land warfare and international conventions. As the United States military has discovered in both Iraq and Afghanistan, civilian casualties have a direct effect on the effectiveness of operations in the strategic sense.
Here troll,Engage this,Grabs Crotch
Next time listen to people who know and have lived life!!
now stop the Bs,listen and learn,from people with experience
in issues you can only dream of...now I repeat.GFY..Ok??
You look like the fool you are rules of engagement when
involved in U/O Stupid Jerk!!
Oh yeah as you have no fkg idea,U/O means urban ops!!
Now no more trolling me,no more bull shit name calling
you are on my ssh8t list sonny boy@!!
Oh no! i'm on the shit list of the faker who can never back up his own words...

Glad i made you look that shit up...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#89 Oct 3, 2012
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Well we can start with;
$4 gas
food up 25%
Utilities up 27%
Water up 12%
Jobs down upteen percent
School cost skyrocket
21 taxes of Obama Tax.
Dollar lowest in decade.
Wouldn't these mean everybody is buried?

logic is fun!
Razors Edge

Palos Hills, IL

#90 Oct 3, 2012
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Oh no! i'm on the shit list of the faker who can never back up his own words...
Glad i made you look that shit up...
if you could read & comprehend the post backed me up Moron
and a POS,like you,could not make me do anything except put
you on my troll list of no more education for a absolutely
ungrateful Prk!! Do not troll my posts any more got it!!

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