US safety regulators probe GM recall ...

US safety regulators probe GM recall linked to 13 deaths

There are 16 comments on the Reuters story from Feb 27, 2014, titled US safety regulators probe GM recall linked to 13 deaths. In it, Reuters reports that:

The issue could prove costly to GM as the automaker faces a potential fine from the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, the cost of replacing the ignition switches in question and the possibility of costly lawsuits.

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GM Bail Out Dum Dums

Patchogue, NY

#1 Feb 27, 2014
That's what happens when you take bail-out money and build crappy cars.. The Government will always turn around then and screw you for it.
Gary

Bellingham, WA

#2 Feb 27, 2014
GM Bail Out Dum Dums wrote:
That's what happens when you take bail-out money and build crappy cars.. The Government will always turn around then and screw you for it.
Government bail-outs saved GM from going belly up

But:

"Earlier this month, GM said it was recalling 778,562 Chevrolet Cobalt and Pontiac G5 compact cars from model years 2005 through 2007. On Tuesday, it added 842,103 Saturn Ion compact cars from 2003 through 2007 model years, Chevy HHR mid-sized vehicles from 2006 and 2007, and the Pontiac Solstice and Saturn Sky sports cars from 2006 and 2007."

All of those cars were produced BEFORE the bail-outs.

Jesus, how stupid can you get?
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#3 Feb 27, 2014
Gary wrote:
<quoted text>
Government bail-outs saved GM from going belly up
But:
"Earlier this month, GM said it was recalling 778,562 Chevrolet Cobalt and Pontiac G5 compact cars from model years 2005 through 2007. On Tuesday, it added 842,103 Saturn Ion compact cars from 2003 through 2007 model years, Chevy HHR mid-sized vehicles from 2006 and 2007, and the Pontiac Solstice and Saturn Sky sports cars from 2006 and 2007."
All of those cars were produced BEFORE the bail-outs.
Jesus, how stupid can you get?
They should let the lemon producing albatross company go out of business. We only need on company and that is to produce war machines. And would somebody jump start the Asians into producing large passenger jets so we can move from the Edsel age with Boeing. Sheeesh! Lets move into the 21sr century.

“Yeah, but...”

Since: Sep 11

MILKY WAY

#4 Feb 27, 2014
Gary wrote:
<quoted text>
Government bail-outs saved GM from going belly up
But:
"Earlier this month, GM said it was recalling 778,562 Chevrolet Cobalt and Pontiac G5 compact cars from model years 2005 through 2007. On Tuesday, it added 842,103 Saturn Ion compact cars from 2003 through 2007 model years, Chevy HHR mid-sized vehicles from 2006 and 2007, and the Pontiac Solstice and Saturn Sky sports cars from 2006 and 2007."
All of those cars were produced BEFORE the bail-outs.
Jesus, how stupid can you get?
Well... They elected Obama twice!

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#5 Feb 27, 2014
GM Bail Out Dum Dums wrote:
That's what happens when you take bail-out money and build crappy cars.. The Government will always turn around then and screw you for it.
These were 2005 / 2006 vehicles - well before the bailout.

Stop bashing American made products / even Toyota and Ford paid way more so far due to safety issues.

Reading the entire article would behoove you, instead of just going on a bashing spree.
Gary

Bellingham, WA

#6 Feb 27, 2014
SirPrize wrote:
<quoted text>
Well... They elected Obama twice!
Good thing too.

Obama saved American capitalism when Republicans,
acting like Al-Qaeda, were trying to destroy it..

“Yeah, but...”

Since: Sep 11

MILKY WAY

#7 Feb 27, 2014
Gary wrote:
<quoted text>
Good thing too.
Obama saved American capitalism when Republicans,
acting like Al-Qaeda, were trying to destroy it..
You have confused capitalism with Fascism.

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#8 Feb 27, 2014
SirPrize wrote:
<quoted text>
You have confused capitalism with Fascism.
You still conflate the difference between Fascism and Capitalism;

"fas·cism noun \&#712;fa-&#716;shi-z &#601;m also &#712;fa-&#716;si-\
: a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government

: very harsh control or authority

Full Definition of FASCISM

1
often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality — J. W. Aldridge>"

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fas...

"capitalism noun (Concise Encyclopedia)
Economic system in which most of the means of production are privately owned, and production is guided and income distributed largely through the operation of markets. Capitalism has been dominant in the Western world since the end of mercantilism. It was fostered by the Reformation, which sanctioned hard work and frugality, and by the rise of industry during the Industrial Revolution, especially the English textile industry (16th–18th centuries). Unlike earlier systems, capitalism used the excess of production over consumption to enlarge productive capacity rather than investing it in economically unproductive enterprises such as palaces or cathedrals. The strong national states of the mercantilist era provided the social conditions, such as uniform monetary systems and legal codes, necessary for the rise of capitalism. The ideology of classical capitalism was expressed in Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations (1776), and Smith's free-market theories were widely adopted in the 19th century. In the 20th century the Great Depression effectively ended laissez-faire economics in most countries, but the demise of the state-run command economies of eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union (see communism) and the adoption of some free-market principles in China left capitalism unrivaled (if not untroubled) by the beginning of the 21st century."

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cap...

A shame you and your ilk have no concept of how the two differ. Start using your head, read, learn the nonsense the politicians and right wing media are pumping into your heads are not how this country operates.

You need to go to Faux News detox bubba!

“Yeah, but...”

Since: Sep 11

MILKY WAY

#9 Feb 27, 2014
TonyT1961 wrote:
<quoted text>
You still conflate the difference between Fascism and Capitalism;
"fas·cism noun \&#712;fa-&#716;shi-z &#601;m also &#712;fa-&#716;si-\
: a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government
: very harsh control or authority
Full Definition of FASCISM
1
often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality — J. W. Aldridge>"
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fas...
"capitalism noun (Concise Encyclopedia)
Economic system in which most of the means of production are privately owned, and production is guided and income distributed largely through the operation of markets. Capitalism has been dominant in the Western world since the end of mercantilism. It was fostered by the Reformation, which sanctioned hard work and frugality, and by the rise of industry during the Industrial Revolution, especially the English textile industry (16th–18th centuries). Unlike earlier systems, capitalism used the excess of production over consumption to enlarge productive capacity rather than investing it in economically unproductive enterprises such as palaces or cathedrals. The strong national states of the mercantilist era provided the social conditions, such as uniform monetary systems and legal codes, necessary for the rise of capitalism. The ideology of classical capitalism was expressed in Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations (1776), and Smith's free-market theories were widely adopted in the 19th century. In the 20th century the Great Depression effectively ended laissez-faire economics in most countries, but the demise of the state-run command economies of eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union (see communism) and the adoption of some free-market principles in China left capitalism unrivaled (if not untroubled) by the beginning of the 21st century."
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cap...
A shame you and your ilk have no concept of how the two differ. Start using your head, read, learn the nonsense the politicians and right wing media are pumping into your head, even one are not how this country operates.
You need to go to Faux News detox bubba!
Not so. You simply do not recognize a Fascist when you see one.
You exalt race over the individual, even one who stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.
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“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#11 Feb 27, 2014
SirPrize wrote:
<quoted text>
Not so. You simply do not recognize a Fascist when you see one.
You exalt race over the individual, even one who stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.
Let me be short and succinct with you. I have a B.A. in Political Science from SUNY at Stony Brook.

I have a much more cogent grasp on our political structure than you do. The Constitution itself is based on the Social Contract, dating as far back as Plato.

There is no centralized government here, nor a dictatorial one for that matter. Again, more propaganda from your far right wing constituents. Your statements are based on fantasy, on rhetoric, not in the real world.
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“Yeah, but...”

Since: Sep 11

MILKY WAY

#13 Feb 27, 2014
TonyT1961 wrote:
<quoted text>
Let me be short and succinct with you. I have a B.A. in Political Science from SUNY at Stony Brook.
I have a much more cogent grasp on our political structure than you do. The Constitution itself is based on the Social Contract, dating as far back as Plato.
There is no centralized government here, nor a dictatorial one for that matter. Again, more propaganda from your far right wing constituents. Your statements are based on fantasy, on rhetoric, not in the real world.
Here's a more direct reply, BACHELOR.
Saying that our Constitution is based on a social contract is akin to saying that the Tesla vehicle is based on the bicycle. I don't care to argue here about whether it is Plato's Social Contract, but there is quite a good argument that the American form of Government was based on Aristotle's ideas.(See Herman, Arthur, The Cave and the Light: Plato Versus Aristotle and the Struggle For Western Civilization, Random House, 2013)

Similarly, a good many Americans agree that the War Between the States decided whether America's would be a weak or strong central Government in favor of the latter. Recent events support this belief. And what is a dictator, but a ruler who considers himself not merely above but outside the law? We see Obama has bombed at least two sovereign nations without Congressional approval. We see that same Obama murdering American citizens overseas, without trial or any oversight. We see Obama ignoring key provisions of Obamacare without Congressional approval. We see Obama using the FDA and IRS, not to mention the NSA, as Hitler used the Gestapo. If his actions are not dictatorial, I do not care to allow anyone get any closer.

As I posted earlier, it's not that we disagree what Fascism is. It's that I see it today and you do not.
Delbert

Virginia Beach, VA

#14 Feb 27, 2014
Fascist is the practice of Republicans in the legislator and Congress taking instructions and campaign funding in exchange for proposing laws drafted, inspired and initiated by ALEC
SirPrize wrote:
<quoted text>
Not so. You simply do not recognize a Fascist when you see one.
You exalt race over the individual, even one who stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.
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General Malfunctions

Bohemia, NY

#16 Feb 28, 2014
Cash for Clunkers to all GM owners.
Snakes and Arrows

Houston, TX

#17 Feb 28, 2014
GM Bail Out Dum Dums wrote:
That's what happens when you take bail-out money and build crappy cars.. The Government will always turn around then and screw you for it.
I am always telling my next door neighbor that my Jaguar is way better than his government issued Camaro.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#18 Feb 28, 2014
Gary wrote:
<quoted text>
Government bail-outs saved GM from going belly up
But:
"Earlier this month, GM said it was recalling 778,562 Chevrolet Cobalt and Pontiac G5 compact cars from model years 2005 through 2007. On Tuesday, it added 842,103 Saturn Ion compact cars from 2003 through 2007 model years, Chevy HHR mid-sized vehicles from 2006 and 2007, and the Pontiac Solstice and Saturn Sky sports cars from 2006 and 2007."
All of those cars were produced BEFORE the bail-outs.
Jesus, how stupid can you get?
Well you could say the government won the battle, but GM still lost the war and the people lost billions thanks to Obama's interference.
Cat74

Oswego, IL

#19 Feb 28, 2014
Tony is likely an Affirmative Action student. They didn't explain Capitalism very well. Who knows what else they over looked.

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