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US vice-presidential debate: Joe Biden and Paul Ryan - live updates

There are 1034 comments on the Guardian Unlimited story from Oct 11, 2012, titled US vice-presidential debate: Joe Biden and Paul Ryan - live updates. In it, Guardian Unlimited reports that:

Can Joe Biden outwit Paul Ryan in the US vice presidential debate and revive Democratic hopes? Follow the action here live Tonight's debate is in lovely Danville, Kentucky , a town famous for ... Anyway, tonight's debate takes place in the Norton Center of Centre College.

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Chicopee

Danbury, CT

#143 Oct 11, 2012
April_Showers wrote:
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I don't know how you equate saving people's jobs with socialism. This seems to be a lose lose situation if that's the case. If you let the auto industry die and let those people lose their jobs, then you don't care about the people. You save the jobs and people call it socialism...
Those people are still working because the American taxpayer provided/is providing the funds. The company is not solvent. Without government money, many of them would be out of work.
That's not how it's supposed to work in a capitalist society or our Constitutional Republic. Government and private businesses are supposed to be two entirely seperate entities.

“Liberal Teachers ruin Kids”

Since: Mar 09

Paradise Valley Arizona

#144 Oct 11, 2012
Gunner wrote:
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GM would have had private investors step in and the results would have been similiar except the taxpayers wouldn't have had to cover the "loan" that hasn't been repaid.
Amen...greatly stated
Gunner

United States

#145 Oct 11, 2012
April_Showers wrote:
<quoted text>Will you explain to me what is QE3 and why it is important?
QE3 stands for quantitative easing version 3. The federal reserve is planning on printing brand new money out of thin air to purchase our own debt for the 3rd seperate time. This is really scary. By them printing more $, that makes the dollars in our pockets worth less. This is the same as stealing money from every single american. Our monetary system is on the brink on disaster and they are making it worse by QE3.

“Liberal Teachers ruin Kids”

Since: Mar 09

Paradise Valley Arizona

#146 Oct 11, 2012
Obama handed out $90 billion American tax dollars to failed companies, Americans can now change direction
Buck

London, KY

#147 Oct 11, 2012
Joe look good tonight and made ryan look like a littleboy. obama 4 more years
see the light

El Paso, TX

#148 Oct 11, 2012
JOE BIDEN'S smirks and laughs-like a little brat. Oh yes and his constant butting in. You'd think a great Grandpa would know better. Paul Ryan was calm and had answers, while Biden had smirks.
Cat74

Palatine, IL

#149 Oct 11, 2012
Oh, please. Biden looked like a crochety old man, and Ryan a well prepared young man ready on day one to lead along with Romney. I can't wait for all new leadersip, no tax evaders!! It will be morning in America all over again.

“Liberal Teachers ruin Kids”

Since: Mar 09

Paradise Valley Arizona

#150 Oct 11, 2012
Barack Obama and Joe Biden don't have a record to run on, or a plan for the future.
and tonight proved that
Slavic Baptist

United States

#151 Oct 11, 2012
JOE BANDIT AND OBAMA BIN LADEN ARE LOOSERS. GOOD BYE IN NOVEMBER. PLAY IN COMMUNISM IS OVER! See ya in Chicago smoking pot, Obamy.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#152 Oct 11, 2012
Biden won the debate for the following reasons.

As always, Democrats will defend Medicare and Social Security. We have had Social Security for 77 years and Medicare for 47 and every election Republicans go after it and each election they yell it will go broke. Bush went after it his second term and wanted to put it into the stock market. When the market crashed, how great would that have been!

Biden made a strong point for more tax breaks to the rich rather than the middle class as well as bringing up the Grover Norquist pledge.

Ryan could not commit to Afghanistan troop withdrawal and hedged on that. He also didn’t seem to know Afghanistan troops were replacing US troops when he claimed we had less troops doing what more had done.

On abortion, Biden nailed it. It does not matter what your personal beliefs are. This is a country of all people and all religions. You can not pose laws on others based on your beliefs. Personal religious beliefs do not belong as government policy.

Ryan complained about the stimulus and then asked for funds himself was a good one in Joe’s corner.

Asked what cuts Ryan was talking about, again he had no answer.

Ryan did well but come up short on facts and idea’s. I don't think Biden was rude. He called Ryan "my friend" numerous times. But I think he thought some of Ryan's idea’s are laughable......and they are. Yelling Liar, Liar Pants on Fire would have been rude.
socalgawfer

Trabuco Canyon, CA

#153 Oct 11, 2012
Biden was well prepared.
Rude, smarmy.

Ryan, well prepared, a little conservative.

TIE
Gunner

United States

#154 Oct 11, 2012
Buck wrote:
Joe look good tonight and made ryan look like a littleboy. obama 4 more years
Is that really your perception of the debate? Or are you being sarcastic?

Biden was rude the entire night. I recall three different instances where he whined to the moderator about not getting enough time. To me that is much more comparable to a "littleboy"(your comparison...not mine)than anything Ryan did all night.
Chicopee

Danbury, CT

#155 Oct 11, 2012
Buck wrote:
Joe look good tonight and made ryan look like a littleboy. obama 4 more years
I disagree. While he was sharper than even I expected, he made himself look very bad with all the grinning, laughing, butting in, head shaking, head rolling and chuckling. It was ametuerish and condecending, reminding me of the Gore/Bush debate, and we know how that played out for Gore.
I think his antics canceled out his advantage. Likeability is very important, and Biden was not very likeable tonight.
guest

Farmington, MO

#156 Oct 11, 2012
Ken wrote:
<quoted text>A consulate is that area of the world should have been protected....I think the Marines were needed more there than at the embassy in the Bahamas....They should have been in the radar...but Obam was too busy on the VIew or courting the 1%ers of the left in Hollywood. Some leader!

And just look at the FOX hater...That's right you libs hate freedom of speech! Look how you went after the guy that made the anti-muslim tape on Youtube. Now he has a bounty on his head from some nutty Islamic cleric...You can claim some responsibility for that, chump.
Then we should send in the marines every year on 9/11 to protect all of our foreign nationals? Are you going to be ok with other countries sending armed troops all over new York and DC and everywhere else they may have interests in the US, whenever they want? Yeah right. Usual hypocrite BS.
guest

Farmington, MO

#157 Oct 11, 2012
Ken wrote:
<quoted text>Tell that to the families of the 4 murdered Americans.
They knew the dangers, just like every member of our military that makes a choice to serve. Yes we should do all we can to protect them. But hindsight is twenty twenty. I didn't hear everyone calling for Reagan or Bushes heads when they lost a hell of a lot more Americans on their watches! Hypocrites!
Slavic Baptist

United States

#158 Oct 11, 2012
Who saw Joe Bite Me has teeth like he is younger that Ryan? Remember, POLITBURO in USSR treated people like that: you all stay in shit and do whatever we say, but we will live large. These losers are the same. Only I'm very surprised, that after over 100 thousands American patriots dead in two wars against communism in two wars Korea and Vietnam, there are still low life Obamy and Bite Me Joe dancing on their graves and push this crap, against wich America was fighting last 100 year(in 2017 will be) Please, Americans, wake up, you ve been greatly doobed. Nothing good will be in communism, only poverty and control. They push communism, only under different name.
guest

Farmington, MO

#159 Oct 11, 2012
Ken wrote:
The libs are all aflutter over the difference between an embassy and a consulate....who cares really. An embassy is in the capital of a country, consulates are in secondary important cities....Okay?
The requests for additional protection that were made by our military and intelligence officials, were made for embassies! And granted. that's the difference, your saying this administration ignored requests that they did not ignore! But as usual, if the facts dot fit your opinion, change the facts. NeoCon 101

“Liberal Teachers ruin Kids”

Since: Mar 09

Paradise Valley Arizona

#160 Oct 11, 2012
guest wrote:
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Then we should send in the marines every year on 9/11 to protect all of our foreign nationals? Are you going to be ok with other countries sending armed troops all over new York and DC and everywhere else they may have interests in the US, whenever they want? Yeah right. Usual hypocrite BS.
The Obama failed us, cant we agree on that?
guest

Farmington, MO

#161 Oct 11, 2012
Vance1 wrote:
<quoted text>he said he voted against the wars and he did not
Just rewound it and tried to find that claim, please let me know the counter number for it. Unless your just going of what you think you heard or remembered. Or your just making sh@t up?
guest

Farmington, MO

#162 Oct 11, 2012
Here in Vegas wrote:
<quoted text>Put lipstick on that pig anyway you want to.

Bottom line:

security = denied
previous attacks = covered up
ambassador = dead
al qeada = did it
An American = in jail
All requested security granted!
If they were covered up, how do you know?
Ambassador is dead, and knew the risks. His choice to spend 9/11 in the consulate instead of the embassy, where marines would have been protecting him with loaded weapons.
Investigation into who did it continues. Maybe they don't give us everything they know, because they don't want the terrorists to know everything we know? If we'd went in and killed Bin Laden before we went into Iraq, without talking about it for months before, he probably would have been a much easier target!

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