Area gun sales, fears rising

Nov 14, 2012 Full story: North Port Sun 7,569

Gun stores in Charlotte County have experienced increased sales since Election Day as local gun owners brace for an anticipated restriction of gun laws following the re-election of President Barack Obama.

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“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#3995 Jan 30, 2013
sickofit wrote:
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And you can say yoru SEIG HEIL SEIG HEIL KKK BS until the cows come home...FACTS ARE ON TRAYVONS SIDE LIAR........
Ok lets drop the race card...What GOOD reason did Zim have for stalking and harasssing and impededing Trayvons civil rights then????
I will check back in a few hours got to go to work..Maybe you should go to work also..You redneck KKK slime sit home on welfare and yell about all sorts of BS...go make your lfie better divorce yoru sister wife and stop havings ex with your goat....Give up your KKK meetings and stop saying seig heil all the time.....OK NOW GO DIE IN PAIN TRAITOR NAZI PIG
If you reviewed the evidence you would understand why Zimmerman would have followed anyone behaving suspiciously.

He was on the phone with police while he was following. The dispatcher stated “we don’t need you to do that”. Zimmerman acknowledge that with an OK. Shortly after he lost sight of Martin.

There is hard evidence Zimmerman lost Martin. What happened after that moment?

“Grab all the good”

Since: Jul 10

Rowlett Tx

#3996 Jan 30, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
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Racism? Really? Where’s your evidence. The FBI did an extensive investigation on that allegation. They found no evidence to support your racism claim.
Do yourself a favor, review the actual evidence made public. Set your emotions aside and view that evidence objectively.
You have no facts. You have nothing more than emotional rage which blinds your judgment.
The news altered the 911 tapes to make it appear that way. 911 asked was he white black or spanish. He said I think he is black. NBC edited the tape and took out 911 asking the question

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#3997 Jan 30, 2013
Denny Crain wrote:
<quoted text>The news altered the 911 tapes to make it appear that way. 911 asked was he white black or spanish. He said I think he is black. NBC edited the tape and took out 911 asking the question
Yes, that was MSNBC. They delivered an apology for that but continued to deliver the story skewed.
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#3998 Jan 30, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
Racism? Really? Where’s your evidence. The FBI did an extensive investigation on that allegation. They found no evidence to support your racism claim.
Do yourself a favor, review the actual evidence made public. Set your emotions aside and view that evidence objectively.
You have no facts. You have nothing more than emotional rage which blinds your judgment.
So in your fantasy the same thing would have happened regardless Trayvon could have been white skinned or a gorgeous, tall blond - same difference?
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“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#4000 Jan 30, 2013
Spocko wrote:
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So in your fantasy the same thing would have happened regardless Trayvon could have been white skinned or a gorgeous, tall blond - same difference?
My opinion would be the same if the shooter were black and the decease white. When dealing with the facts in an objective manner race doesn’t matter nor should it.

Your reply is very revealing. I suggest someone review all of the facts made public and you accuse me of fantasy. Maybe facts are fantasy for you.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#4001 Jan 30, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>I find that hard to believe considering the unemployment rate (the true unemployment rate) also counting the jobless after unemployment benefits have ceased.
Do you have links to government sites that back your numbers?
Still waiting.

“Grab all the good”

Since: Jul 10

Rowlett Tx

#4002 Jan 30, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
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My opinion would be the same if the shooter were black and the decease white. When dealing with the facts in an objective manner race doesn’t matter nor should it.
Your reply is very revealing. I suggest someone review all of the facts made public and you accuse me of fantasy. Maybe facts are fantasy for you.
They even tried to make you think it was a white on Black crime. The shooter was Spanish

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Puerto Vallarta, Mexico

#4003 Jan 30, 2013
Denny Crain wrote:
<quoted text>The news altered the 911 tapes to make it appear that way. 911 asked was he white black or spanish. He said I think he is black. NBC edited the tape and took out 911 asking the question
Correct..........

It was a racist bash from the beginning..........

When Zim walks free they will burn down their houses and neighborhoods like they did over Rodney King.....
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#4004 Jan 30, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
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My opinion would be the same if the shooter were black and the decease white. When dealing with the facts in an objective manner race doesn’t matter nor should it.
Your reply is very revealing. I suggest someone review all of the facts made public and you accuse me of fantasy. Maybe facts are fantasy for you.
Unlike your fantasy universe, mine is not a peffect world ...

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#4005 Jan 30, 2013
Those wanting to restore the balance of power may want to check this out.
http://www.soarproject.us/
No matter what state you live in, there is a way for you to make a difference.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#4006 Jan 30, 2013
Spocko wrote:
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So in your fantasy the same thing would have happened regardless Trayvon could have been white skinned or a gorgeous, tall blond - same difference?
It is to me. In fact, in our local Topix board, somebody started a discussion on the case when it first came out and little information was available. The first stories to come out were that Zim did hunt down Martin and killed him. I was first to say that Zim should have gone to jail and have the key thrown away. I knew Martin was black, but it didn't matter.

Then as more stories came out about what really happened, it was only then I changed my tune. I went from throwing Zim in jail to defending him. If you don't believe me, I'll go back and find the post. It was created by a liberal girl that I frequently talked to, and she asked me about it since she knows I have a CCW here in Ohio.

I DID stick up for the black person over the white when the story first came out.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#4007 Jan 30, 2013
GhostofRaygun wrote:
<quoted text>Since the end of 2009, business investment has grown at a rate of 18 percent, and exports have increased 32 percent, for a total of $2 trillion. The American manufacturing industry has added more than 500,000 jobs in the past thirty months -- the strongest growth for any thirty-month period since 1995. The manufacturing sector increased jobs by 152% since 2008. In 2011, for the second straight year, the number of manufacturing jobs in the United States increased, after declining every year since 1998.
As usual, you only got half of the story.

Ask yourself: if DumBama created all of these jobs, why did he have the same unemployment rate as he did when he took over?

The answer is quite simple: those figures do not include the jobs lost. In fact, it was only during the later part of his reelection try that he finally (after nearly four years) had just as many Americans working as we did when he first took office. In other words, no growth at all. In fact, they recently came out with a report that the last quarter of last year showed negative growth. NEGATIVE GROWTH! That means no jobs and no economic activity while DumBama's boys were claiming we would see growth at around 2% or so.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#4008 Jan 30, 2013
sickofit wrote:
<quoted text>
And you can say yoru SEIG HEIL SEIG HEIL KKK BS until the cows come home...FACTS ARE ON TRAYVONS SIDE LIAR........
Ok lets drop the race card...What GOOD reason did Zim have for stalking and harasssing and impededing Trayvons civil rights then????
Do you even know what a civil right is?

It's clear why Martin called police. He noticed a person walking around aimlessly on a dark rainy night. A person he'd never seen in the complex before. That's why he was following Martin.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#4009 Jan 30, 2013
sickofit wrote:
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So when Trayvon defended himself againt Zims stalking and harassing he was wrong but Zim the murderer can defend himself...SOUDNS LIKE RACISM TO ME. Onlyr eaosn Zim followed and harassed Trayvonw as ebcause hew as black.....SIMPLE FACT
Facts come along with evidence--none of which you have to prove your allegation. Since you have not one ounce of evidence, it is not a fact, it is an assumption. Learn the difference.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#4010 Jan 30, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
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You’re short on facts. The evidence in no way indicates he stalked Martin. Do you know the legal definition of stalked? Generally stalkers are not on the phone with police. How did he harass Martin? What was said? What actions?
Evidence doesn’t indicate murder, the evidence better supports self-defense.
Not really. The evidence supports assault and battery. Self-defense does not include pinning somebody to the ground, beating their head into the cement after you broke their nose and gave your supposed attacker two black eyes while he was screaming for help. That's way beyond self-defense.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#4011 Jan 30, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>Really son? So you'll need to explain why in your scenario the store owner isn't charged but in this case, Zimmerman is.
You've jumped to conclusions without thinking.
Not at all. Zimmerman was arrested due to media stirring up the pubic and authorities trying to avoid a race riot of some kind. After they interviewed Zim and did their investigation that night of the shooting, they set him free because they had no evidence to arrest him or charge him with anything.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2012/032...
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#4012 Jan 30, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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Exactly! You would think after the libs did it with McCain, the Reps would have wised up.
What the Republicans should do is disallow people switching parties before a primary. If you want to switch from Dem or Independent to Republican, you can only do so during the year of a Presidential election. This would stop the countless Democrats who have their person but want to F up our primary so they don't have a conservative to contend with.

I don't believe for a minute that the Republican voters became so moderate. I don't believe real Republicans chose McCain or Romney.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#4013 Jan 30, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>What the Republicans should do is disallow people switching parties before a primary. If you want to switch from Dem or Independent to Republican, you can only do so during the year of a Presidential election. This would stop the countless Democrats who have their person but want to F up our primary so they don't have a conservative to contend with.

I don't believe for a minute that the Republican voters became so moderate. I don't believe real Republicans chose McCain or Romney.
Bingo!
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#4014 Jan 30, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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Another bullshit statement. You can keep using "chase" all you want to try to bolster your position, but it isn't going to fly, especially when you have no proof. Zimmerman didn't assault Martin prior to him running away. How could he? He hadn't gotten out of his truck yet. Have you actually listened to the call with the dispatcher? If so, you need to listen to it again. When the dispatcher to Zimmerman "we don't need you to do that" (referring to following Martin) Zimmerman said "OK" and returned to his truck.(you can here the door chime from the vehicle at the end of their conversation)
Zimmerman broke no law by leaving his truck. He broke no law by trying to see where a suspicious person had ran off to. He broke no law by answering MARTIN'S question of "why are you following me?" with "what are you doing here?" With the evidence that has been presented to date, the first person to break any law was Martin when he broke Zimmerman's nose.
1. No evidence that Zimmerman "chased" Martin. Also, not against the law to follow someone to determine what they may be up to
Ans: Sure he did. He got out of his vehicle with a loaded weapon to chase Martin after he ran.
Following after to see were someone may have gone is not "chasing" them. He had lost sight of Martin (proof: the call with the dispatcher)

Ans2: Let me know the next time you run from someone and he begins to run after you how he’s doing his job!(Psst! In Texas, a man was convicted of murder while video taping the event!)

2. Zimmerman was perfectly legal to carry a concealed weapon (he had a license from the state of FL to do so).
Ans: No argument there. Though he did so as his self appointed community law enforcement.
Irrelevant
Ans2: No, it’s relevant since the HOA can be sued if Zimmerman loses the syg hearing. And that’s not even the trial at that point.

3. The gun wasn't fired until AFTER Martin was bashing Zimmerman's head into a concrete sidewalk.(eye witness to the fact as well as physical injuries to the back of Zimmerman's head cooberate this)
Ans: This is what Zimmerman claimed. It's not a fact.
What part do you not understand about "eye witness"? It's not just Zimmerman's claim.
Ans2: It’ll be nice to see what an “eyewitness” can see in the dark. You obviously have abilities mere mortals don’t.

4. Martin was the first to initiate the conversation between the two (M's girlfriend's testimony backs this)
Ans: Again, this is Zimmerman's claim. Not a fact.
Not his claim. It was from the statement from Martin's girlfriend.
Ans2: That’s interesting how he would have to have told his girlfriend AFTER initiating contact.

5. No physical injuries to Martin other than a single GSW. A broken nose, blackened eyes, and cuts to the back of Z's head all bolster Z's claim that he was attacked by Martin.
Ans: Zimmerman could have fallen. I've seen head wounds worse in a retail store.
He broke his own nose AND cut the back of his head multiple times by falling??? How many times did he fall? What a ludicrous statement.
Ans2: Even if true, pulling a weapon out after Zimmerman initiated the conflict won’t let him off the hook. The only person with the claim is Zimmerman. And we already know he’s lied.

6. If you initiate an attack on someone, you are NOT a "victim".
Try again.
Ans: If Zimmerman stayed in his vehicle, everything would have been fine. Zimmerman initiated the chase after Martin ran AWAY from him. Looking from an objective position outside, one could say Martin was running from his assailant.
Try again....

Ans2: And it’s still true yet.
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#4015 Jan 30, 2013
Here Is One wrote:
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When and where??????
Post 46994 here http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/TKPEED...
The moron Yea claims Zim got a doctors note but did not see a doctor…………ROTFLMAO
Here Is One wrote:
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Yep and that is not a crime when you are beaten as bad as Zim was......
Moron yea wrote.
lol! Wow. Getting a doctor's note for work and not seeking medical attention.
Maybe he meant getting beaten to within an inch of not going to work! That's much more plausible.
lol! Already proved you're a liar son. You just don't read! And that's your problem!

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