Area gun sales, fears rising

Nov 14, 2012 Full story: North Port Sun 7,568

Gun stores in Charlotte County have experienced increased sales since Election Day as local gun owners brace for an anticipated restriction of gun laws following the re-election of President Barack Obama.

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#2954 Jan 17, 2013
Actually wrote:
<quoted text>
charging people with socialism as if it is even relevant to anything going on is a sissy's way of not wanting to deal with one's own childish self-centeredness.
what do they think Government internvention that is exactly what Socialism is, welcome to the United States.
nope

Santa Fe, NM

#2955 Jan 17, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>what do they think Government internvention that is exactly what Socialism is, welcome to the United States.
government has always had a role from day one. Calling it socialism to get ae rise out of dumb people is ignorant and childish.

Since: Jan 13

Largo, FL

#2956 Jan 17, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
"I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites."- Barack Obama Dreams from My Father
"I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, Dubois and Mandela." – Barack Obama Dreams from My Father
Well done, cynic. You have posted two vague quotes from a book Obama wrote 17 years ago. Do you have any more recent examples of his "racism". Say, from the past 10 years or so?

Also, the subject was whether or not conservatives ever accuse others of "racism". I posted several recent examples of right wingers doing exactly that. Your post, in which you try to prove Obama is a racist (by using 17 year old quotes from a book he wrote), just supports my point. Thanks.

Since: Jan 13

Largo, FL

#2957 Jan 17, 2013
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>It worked in Germany pre-WWII. Just ask the jews.
Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons
11 November 1938
With a basis in §31 of the Weapons Law of 18 March 1938 (Reichsgesetzblatt I, p.265), Article III of the Law on the Reunification of Austria with Germany of 13 March 1938 (Reichsgesetzblatt I, p. 237), and §9 of the Führer and Chancellor's decree on the administration of the Sudeten-German districts of 1 October 1938 (Reichsgesetzblatt I, p 1331) are the following ordered:
§1
Jews (§5 of the First Regulations of the German Citizenship Law of 14 November 1935, Reichsgesetzblatt I, p. 1333) are prohibited from acquiring, possessing, and carrying firearms and ammunition, as well as truncheons or stabbing weapons. Those now possessing weapons and ammunition are at once to turn them over to the local police authority.
§2
Firearms and ammunition found in a Jew's possession will be forfeited to the government without compensation.
§3
The Minister of the Interior may make exceptions to the Prohibition in §1 for Jews who are foreign nationals. He can entrust other authorities with this power.
§4
Whoever willfully or negligently violates the provisions of §1 will be punished with imprisonment and a fine. In especially severe cases of deliberate violations, the punishment is imprisonment in a penitentiary for up to five years.
§5
For the implementation of this regulation, the Minister of the Interior waives the necessary legal and administrative provisions.
§6
This regulation is valid in the state of Austria and in the Sudeten-German districts.
Berlin, 11 November 1938
Minister of the Interior
Frick
Perhaps we could substitute the word "jew' above with "law abiding citizen" and see that only the government should possess weapons?
I'm not sure I get your point. To my knowledge, Obama has not proposed any laws or regulations barring Jewish people, or anyone else, from owning a firearm.

Oh, wait. I see your logic. Since Hitler did, and Obama hasn't, that proves Obama is just like Hitler!

You're never going to get normal people to live in your fantasy world. Sorry.

Since: Jan 13

Largo, FL

#2958 Jan 17, 2013
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>Thank God! I find armed liberal very dangerous. They rattle sabers over inanimate objects.
Huh???

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#2959 Jan 17, 2013
Calm Liberal wrote:
<quoted text>
Well done, cynic. You have posted two vague quotes from a book Obama wrote 17 years ago. Do you have any more recent examples of his "racism". Say, from the past 10 years or so?
Also, the subject was whether or not conservatives ever accuse others of "racism". I posted several recent examples of right wingers doing exactly that. Your post, in which you try to prove Obama is a racist (by using 17 year old quotes from a book he wrote), just supports my point. Thanks.
How about from last year??

Look up "African Americans For Obama".
Marauder

Fairbanks, AK

#2960 Jan 17, 2013
Calm Liberal wrote:
<quoted text>
No, nutjob, I don't. What's it to ya?
So much for a "calm"..."frust rated control freak".

I do...and I carry concealed without a license or permit and no nanny state mandated training or testing...What's it to ya?

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#2961 Jan 17, 2013
Calm Liberal wrote:
<quoted text>Well done, cynic. You have posted two vague quotes from a book Obama wrote 17 years ago. Do you have any more recent examples of his "racism". Say, from the past 10 years or so?

Also, the subject was whether or not conservatives ever accuse others of "racism". I posted several recent examples of right wingers doing exactly that. Your post, in which you try to prove Obama is a racist (by using 17 year old quotes from a book he wrote), just supports my point. Thanks.
How about Obama's executive order on African American Education from July 26, 2012? Is that recent enough for you?

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Chesapeake, VA

#2962 Jan 17, 2013
Actually wrote:
<quoted text>
charging people with socialism as if it is even relevant to anything going on is a sissy's way of not wanting to deal with one's own childish self-centeredness.
You mean personal resposibility.

You confuse a "childish self-centeredness" with taking personal resposibility. You want everyone else to take care of you and socially wipe your butt 'cause you're just "TOO GENEROUS" to do it for yourself.

If I'm self-centered...then you're lazy.

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Chesapeake, VA

#2963 Jan 17, 2013
Calm Liberal wrote:
<quoted text>
Huh???
"People don't kill people, guns kill people! Ban the guns!!!! Uhhhhhhhhhhhh, the sky is fallling, ahhhhhhhhh!"

The liberal mantra goes.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#2964 Jan 17, 2013
Calm Liberal wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not sure I get your point. To my knowledge, Obama has not proposed any laws or regulations barring Jewish people, or anyone else, from owning a firearm.

Oh, wait. I see your logic. Since Hitler did, and Obama hasn't, that proves Obama is just like Hitler!

You're never going to get normal people to live in your fantasy world. Sorry.
So by your logic, since Obama hasn't done it yet, it can't happen?

Before November of 2008 Obama had never been elected POTUS, I guess it couldn't happen.
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#2965 Jan 17, 2013
Marauder wrote:
<quoted text>
"BS ... speak for yourself..."
BS! Take your own advise...YOU DO NOT speak for other gunowners.
I don't!

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Chesapeake, VA

#2966 Jan 17, 2013
Calm Liberal wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not sure I get your point. To my knowledge, Obama has not proposed any laws or regulations barring Jewish people, or anyone else, from owning a firearm.
Oh, wait. I see your logic. Since Hitler did, and Obama hasn't, that proves Obama is just like Hitler!
You're never going to get normal people to live in your fantasy world. Sorry.
Here's what makes it scary. People like you just don't see the writing on the wall even with history repeating itself. Your beloved messiah has ephatically illustrated in his eloquence that we "normal" Americans are too stupid to take care of ourselves and has numerous times stated that the government is our only answer. Only the government can protect us, only the government can feed us, only the government can ensure we get healthcare, only the government can save us from certain economic doom so an and so forth.
Rest assured that there are still at least 53% of us out here that can handle our everyday lives without the interference or intrusion of the government.
Oh, and what did O'Bama's magic pen sign into law by executive order here this week? Here since you ARE lazy:
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
EMBARGOED UNTIL THE START OF THE PRESIDENT’S REMARKS
January 16, 2013
Gun Violence Reduction Executive Actions
Today, the President is announcing that he and the Administration will:
1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.(not legal under Article II of the Constitution)
2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.(not legal under 10th Amendment of the Constitution)
10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.(not legal under Article II of the Constitution)
11. Nominate an ATF director.
16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.(not legal under Article II of the Constitution)
17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.(not legal under 5th Amendment of the Constitution)

There are 23 total, but the jist is "Don't trust law abiding citizens".

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#2967 Jan 17, 2013
nope wrote:
<quoted text>
government has always had a role from day one. Calling it socialism to get ae rise out of dumb people is ignorant and childish.
exactly right since day one we were under Socialism and still are which is why Karl Marxs never had to write nothing about Socialism because Society was already practicing Socialism but during Lincoln & Marxs time even here in the US Society was changing and Society was either going to to go towards Capitalism which the South confederate states advocated or Communism which Lincoln & Marxs both favored communism because it is classless society where everyone is equal but it never happened as intended.

An Unfinished Revolution: Karl Marx and Abraham Lincoln

by Robin Blackburn, Abraham Lincoln, and Karl Marx

The impact of the American Civil War on Karl Marx, and Karl Marx on America.

Karl Marx and Abraham Lincoln exchanged letters at the end of the Civil War. Although they were divided by far more than the Atlantic Ocean, they agreed on the cause of “free labor” and the urgent need to end slavery. In his introduction, Robin Blackburn argues that Lincoln’s response signaled the importance of the German American community and the role of the international communists in opposing European recognition of the Confederacy.

The ideals of communism, voiced through the International Working Men’s Association, attracted many thousands of supporters throughout the US, and helped spread the demand for an eight-hour day. Blackburn shows how the IWA in America—born out of the Civil War—sought to radicalize Lincoln’s unfinished revolution and to advance the rights of labor, uniting black and white, men and women, native and foreign-born. The International contributed to a profound critique of the capitalist robber barons who enriched themselves during and after the war, and it inspired an extraordinary series of strikes and class struggles in the postwar decades.

In addition to a range of key texts and letters by both Lincoln and Marx, this book includes articles from the radical New York-based journal Woodhull and Claflin’s Weekly, an extract from Thomas Fortune’s classic work on racism Black and White, Frederick Engels on the progress of US labor in the 1880s, and Lucy Parson’s speech at the founding of the Industrial Workers of the World.

http://www.versobooks.com/books/954-an-unfini...
Marauder

Fairbanks, AK

#2968 Jan 17, 2013
Spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't!
Then don't imply you are by saying..."law abiding gun owner are happy to have their gun and ammunition registered and tracked if it can save a single child or bring a criminal to justice!!!!"

Since: Jan 13

Largo, FL

#2969 Jan 17, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
<quoted text>
How about from last year??
Look up "African Americans For Obama".
Still don't see the racism, champ. Black people have a right to vote for whoever they want. They have the right to organize according to their interests, just like teabaggers, gun nuts, or any other interest groups.

And again, Obama is not being "racist" for asking black people to votre for him. Now, if Obama ever tells black people that whites are evil, and must be destroyed, then you might have a point.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#2970 Jan 17, 2013
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>Here's what makes it scary. People like you just don't see the writing on the wall even with history repeating itself. Your beloved messiah has ephatically illustrated in his eloquence that we "normal" Americans are too stupid to take care of ourselves and has numerous times stated that the government is our only answer. Only the government can protect us, only the government can feed us, only the government can ensure we get healthcare, only the government can save us from certain economic doom so an and so forth.
Rest assured that there are still at least 53% of us out here that can handle our everyday lives without the interference or intrusion of the government.
Oh, and what did O'Bama's magic pen sign into law by executive order here this week? Here since you ARE lazy:
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
EMBARGOED UNTIL THE START OF THE PRESIDENT’S REMARKS
January 16, 2013
Gun Violence Reduction Executive Actions
Today, the President is announcing that he and the Administration will:
1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.(not legal under Article II of the Constitution)
2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.(not legal under 10th Amendment of the Constitution)
10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.(not legal under Article II of the Constitution)
11. Nominate an ATF director.
16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.(not legal under Article II of the Constitution)
17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.(not legal under 5th Amendment of the Constitution)
There are 23 total, but the jist is "Don't trust law abiding citizens".
Excellent post!

Since: Jan 13

Largo, FL

#2971 Jan 17, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
So by your logic, since Obama hasn't done it yet, it can't happen?
Before November of 2008 Obama had never been elected POTUS, I guess it couldn't happen.
Your argument is absurd, even by right wing "logic". Since something COULD happen, then we can just act as if it HAS happened. Well, in that case, I'm mad at Rush Limbaugh for going on a shooting spree at a petting zoo and killing 300 chilren, their parents, and several small animals.

What's that? You say, "Wait, that never happened!" Oh, so by your logic, since Limbaugh hasn't done it yet, it can't happen?

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#2972 Jan 17, 2013
Calm Liberal wrote:
<quoted text>
Still don't see the racism, champ. Black people have a right to vote for whoever they want. They have the right to organize according to their interests, just like teabaggers, gun nuts, or any other interest groups.
And again, Obama is not being "racist" for asking black people to votre for him. Now, if Obama ever tells black people that whites are evil, and must be destroyed, then you might have a point.
Give me a f-ing break. Pandering to a group based on nothing but the color of their skin is the very definition of racism you twit.

What do you think would have happened if Romney had set up a group called "Anglo-Saxons for Romney"??? You libtards would have been rioting in the streets.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#2973 Jan 17, 2013
Calm Liberal wrote:
<quoted text>
Still don't see the racism, champ. Black people have a right to vote for whoever they want. They have the right to organize according to their interests, just like teabaggers, gun nuts, or any other interest groups.
And again, Obama is not being "racist" for asking black people to votre for him. Now, if Obama ever tells black people that whites are evil, and must be destroyed, then you might have a point.
So by your definition, the KKK was just an interest group??? What would you call the New Black Panther Party??? The Nation of Islam???

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