Area gun sales, fears rising

Nov 14, 2012 Full story: North Port Sun 7,569

Gun stores in Charlotte County have experienced increased sales since Election Day as local gun owners brace for an anticipated restriction of gun laws following the re-election of President Barack Obama.

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Marauder

Valdez, AK

#2933 Jan 17, 2013
Spocko wrote:
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BS ... speak for yourself, law abiding gun owner are happy to have their gun and ammunition registered and tracked if it can save a single child or bring a criminal to justice!!!!
"BS ... speak for yourself..."

BS! Take your own advise...YOU DO NOT speak for other gunowners.
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“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#2935 Jan 17, 2013
Calm Liberal wrote:
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You on the right insist that "terrorism" must have a "political" component. That is because you spent so much time using the 9/11 attacks for political gain. And it worked, for a while. But I stand by my statement. Terrorism is any act performed with the aim of inducing fear, whatever the motivation.
Sorry, but the right wing no longer has a trademark on the word "Terrorism". Your trademark expired, and the American people refused to renew it.
Because fools like you insist on expanding the definition someone else must be wrong?

Oxford Dictionary
Definition of terrorism
noun
[mass noun]
the unofficial or unauthorized use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims: the fight against terrorism international terrorism
Merriam-Webster
Definition of TERRORISM
: the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion

Trademark on the word terrorism? Are you daft? The school shooting was nothing short of a tragedy. There’s no evidence the shooter had any goals other than kill a lot of children. It was criminal action, not terrorism.

Find a dictionary which supports your definition.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#2936 Jan 17, 2013
sickofit wrote:
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Conservatism is a mental disorder....That said it should not be reason to keep guns away from you nut jobs.....I do think most conservatives should not be allwoed to raise kids.....The hate and bigotry and racism and violence in a conservative home is vile and evil and no kids should see that or be raised that way..
You claim being conservative is a mental disorder. Then you go on wanting to remove second amendment rights and disallow people to raise children. That would be an indication of fascism view.

Violence in conservative homes? Got evidence violence is more prevalent in a conservative home? You might want to check crime statistics. The majority of those arrested for domestic abuse are those who tend to vote Democrat.

Racism? You might want to carefully review history. You believe those on the left are not racist. They’ve simply chosen to use minorities for their own political gain.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#2937 Jan 17, 2013
Calm Liberal wrote:
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Not really. It's the right that has been crying "racism" ever since Obama took office.
Libturds are interesting. For eight years they attacked Bush on a multitude of issues. Someone attacks Obama on any issue and the libturds claim racism.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#2938 Jan 17, 2013
Calm Liberal wrote:
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So you're saying that conservatives don't cry "racism"? Well here are just a few examples of them doing exactly that:
1. Just before the 2012 election, Newt Gingrich went on Fox News to accuse Obama of using "racist language" in a speech he made back in 2007. "There's no way you can listen to this speech and not hear it as a deliberately divisive speech that pits Americans against each other and does so largely with racial innuendoes that are very, very clear when you hear the speech," former Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich said on Fox News.
2. During a televison interview, Glenn Beck said the following about President Obama: "This president, I think, has exposed himself as a guy — over and over and over again — who has a deep seated hatred for white people or white culture. I’m saying he has a problem, this guy is, I believe, a racist."
3. Rupert Murdoch, owner of Fox News, said in an interview that President Obama “made a very racist remark”. When asked what the remark was, Murdoch couldn’t answer.
4. Ann Coulter said that her critics were engaged in “vicious, actually racist attacks”…. And that liberals put “black conservatives through this vicious hazing process”
5. Republican John Sununu accused Colin Powell of being a racist. He was asked about Powell's endorsement of President Obama. Sununu didn' think it was possible for Powell to have thought about the issues and come to an intelligent decision. Instead, here is how he explained Powell's motives:“Frankly, when you take a look at Colin Powell, you have to wonder whether that's an endorsement based on issues or whether he's got a slightly different reason for preferring President Obama. I think when you have somebody of your own race that you're proud of being president of the United States, I applaud Colin for standing with him.” In other words, Powell only voted for Obama based on race, which makes Powell a racist.
6. Rush Limbaugh, discussing a fight between some kids on a school bus that was video taped:“White kids getting beat up by black kids on the school bus. That’s Obama’s America.” Right, Rush. The racist Obama sent out instructions to black school kids all over America to start beating up white kids.
7. And then of course there is the Shirley Sherrod incident. Andrew Breitbart showed a severly edited clip of a speech Sherrod gave to an NAACP audience. Breitbart said that the clip showed that the NAACP are the “real racists.” In fact, when the entire clip, including the parts Breitbart deleted, was shown, it showed exactly the opposite.
These are just a few examples of right wingers crying "Racist!" There are many others. And don't forget, many right wingers claim that balck people only vote for Obama because he's black. In other words, Obama's election victories are the result of black racists, victimizing the right.
"I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites."- Barack Obama Dreams from My Father

"I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, Dubois and Mandela." – Barack Obama Dreams from My Father

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#2939 Jan 17, 2013
Spocko wrote:
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Sorry Forrest, your words not mine!
Of course not, you can’t defend your claims so you abandon them.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#2940 Jan 17, 2013
arcanumseeker wrote:
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LOL! Guess you didn't like the election results. Sorry but America doesn't agree with you. Your side blew it! Big Time!
Only 22% of Americans voted for Obama.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#2941 Jan 17, 2013
Spocko wrote:
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Is that so, why then is the NRA and its cronies in congress pushing a bill to prohibit any ER doctor, or any physician, from questioning victims of gun injuries trying to establish a database relating to public safety? Don’t you think, or is thinking to much to ask for you gun-a-holics, to support gun registration and control is clearly in your own interest? Why is it that all you morons can do is screaming bloody murder about gun confiscation? Keeping track of guns has nothing to do with the 2nd amendment! Why do you object to mandating a ‘title’ for every gun to track its movement?
Got evidence? Some have claimed Obamacare prohibited doctors from asking about firearms. Did the NRA assist in writing Obamacare?

Now, Florida did attempt to prohibit doctors from asking children about firearms in their homes during routine visits. It’s not the doctors business and the doctor shouldn’t be attempting to gain information like that from a minor.

It’s only my business where my guns are. Would you like an RFID tag to track your every movement?

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#2942 Jan 17, 2013
Spocko wrote:
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BS ... speak for yourself, law abiding gun owner are happy to have their gun and ammunition registered and tracked if it can save a single child or bring a criminal to justice!!!!
I just love when some asshole says “if only one life can be saved it’ll be worth it”. Bullshit. You would violate the rights of millions to save one individual when in fact there’s no way to determine if one individual has been saved.

I am a law abiding citizen. I hold concealed carry permits in two states. I’ve endured full background checks and been fingerprinted for both permits. Now you want more.

Register ammunition? Who’s going to pay for that?

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#2943 Jan 17, 2013
Spocko wrote:
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You’re misinformed (what a shock) Canada only scrapped the registration of long-guns. Nevertheless, Canada’s registry is a mess, an outdated computer system, cost overruns, mismanagement and millions of guns smuggled into Canada from the US.
OK, registration would work here why?

I have news for you. A gun can be traced today. The police recover a firearm from a crime. The manufacture can be contacted and they find out who the dealer is. The dealer must retain the 4473 forms for 20 years. There’s a log book which also must be kept. The buyer is easily found. If the buyer sold the firearm they should keep a record of who bought it though not required. It’s simply a wise idea. I can show where every gun I’ve sold has gone.

The vast majority of firearms in this country can already be traced.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#2944 Jan 17, 2013
arcanumseeker wrote:
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You assume much! I am speaking a subset of Americans who are fearful, frightened people who cling to their religion and guns for safety and a sense of security. Do you deny that they exist? I never stated that all gun owners were religious, nor did I say that all religious people own a gun. btw I also didn't say Lincoln's Gettysburg address
I’m assuming nothing.

This was your comment I responded to.
arcanumseeker wrote:
It's just like Obama said, they will cling to their Guns and religion.
Don’t want to be misunderstood? State your point clearly.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#2945 Jan 17, 2013
Spocko wrote:
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Aren’t the gun-a-holics forgetting something?“Guns don’t kill people – people with guns kill people!!!”
You left out hammers, baseball bats, screwdrivers, explosives, cars, gasoline, poison, metal pipes, etc. etc. etc ad nauseum.

Since: Jan 13

Largo, FL

#2946 Jan 17, 2013
Nut Case wrote:
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Hey jagoff, you own a gun?
No, nutjob, I don't. What's it to ya?

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#2947 Jan 17, 2013
Spocko wrote:
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You’re misinformed (what a shock) Canada only scrapped the registration of long-guns. Nevertheless, Canada’s registry is a mess, an outdated computer system, cost overruns, mismanagement and millions of guns smuggled into Canada from the US.
Oops...left out the word "long". And thanks for the confirmation of my statement that it did not work. LOL

So if Canada can't make the system work with far fewer guns than we have here, what makes you so confident that it will work here?? Never has worked in any state with mandatory registration. Hasn't stoppped a single crime. Hasn't saved a single life. What is your proof that registration will do what you claim it will.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#2948 Jan 17, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
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Libturds are interesting. For eight years they attacked Bush on a multitude of issues. Someone attacks Obama on any issue and the libturds claim racism.
Hypocracy at its finest.

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Chesapeake, VA

#2949 Jan 17, 2013
Calm Liberal wrote:
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Oh, my god! I had no idean that Obama was actually trying to get black people to vote for him? Why, that lousy son of a bi**h! Never in the history of this country has a President actually tried to win re-election by appealing to a group of voters! I'm shocked, I tell ya! Shocked! Thanks for exposing Obama's evil plot to run for re-election.
Oh, so now it's OKAY to reach out to a specific group based upon race for whatever reason? Especially as a government worker? Wow, you guys and your rule changing!
Now, if memory serves me correctly, it's the libbies that accuse the right of being descriminatory and associating with "their own kind". Segrating among voters. Ya'll gotta make up your minds on this. Take some affirmative action, okay?

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Chesapeake, VA

#2950 Jan 17, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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So if Canada can't make the system work with far fewer guns than we have here, what makes you so confident that it will work here?? Never has worked in any state with mandatory registration. Hasn't stoppped a single crime. Hasn't saved a single life. What is your proof that registration will do what you claim it will.
It worked in Germany pre-WWII. Just ask the jews.

Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons
11 November 1938
With a basis in §31 of the Weapons Law of 18 March 1938 (Reichsgesetzblatt I, p.265), Article III of the Law on the Reunification of Austria with Germany of 13 March 1938 (Reichsgesetzblatt I, p. 237), and §9 of the Führer and Chancellor's decree on the administration of the Sudeten-German districts of 1 October 1938 (Reichsgesetzblatt I, p 1331) are the following ordered:
§1
Jews (§5 of the First Regulations of the German Citizenship Law of 14 November 1935, Reichsgesetzblatt I, p. 1333) are prohibited from acquiring, possessing, and carrying firearms and ammunition, as well as truncheons or stabbing weapons. Those now possessing weapons and ammunition are at once to turn them over to the local police authority.

§2
Firearms and ammunition found in a Jew's possession will be forfeited to the government without compensation.

§3
The Minister of the Interior may make exceptions to the Prohibition in §1 for Jews who are foreign nationals. He can entrust other authorities with this power.

§4
Whoever willfully or negligently violates the provisions of §1 will be punished with imprisonment and a fine. In especially severe cases of deliberate violations, the punishment is imprisonment in a penitentiary for up to five years.

§5
For the implementation of this regulation, the Minister of the Interior waives the necessary legal and administrative provisions.

§6
This regulation is valid in the state of Austria and in the Sudeten-German districts.

Berlin, 11 November 1938
Minister of the Interior
Frick

Perhaps we could substitute the word "jew' above with "law abiding citizen" and see that only the government should possess weapons?

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Chesapeake, VA

#2951 Jan 17, 2013
Calm Liberal wrote:
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No, nutjob, I don't. What's it to ya?
Thank God! I find armed liberal very dangerous. They rattle sabers over inanimate objects.
Actually

Santa Fe, NM

#2952 Jan 17, 2013
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
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?
charging people with socialism as if it is even relevant to anything going on is a sissy's way of not wanting to deal with one's own childish self-centeredness.

Since: Jan 13

Largo, FL

#2953 Jan 17, 2013
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, so now it's OKAY to reach out to a specific group based upon race for whatever reason? Especially as a government worker? Wow, you guys and your rule changing!
Now, if memory serves me correctly, it's the libbies that accuse the right of being descriminatory and associating with "their own kind". Segrating among voters. Ya'll gotta make up your minds on this. Take some affirmative action, okay?
Well, Soc, there is some difference. Using racially charged language to create fear of or to ridicule black people is one thing. For example, when Fox News personalities refer to the White House under Obama as the "hizz-ous", or when a snickering Rush Limbaugh plays a song called "Barack the Magic Negro". Or when white politicians and pundits complain that "blacks" vote for Obama simply because he is black, in other words, that they can't think for themselves, and are therefore a political threat. These are instances of whites trying to demonize blacks.

I didn't see any of that sort of fearmongering in the Obama ad. I didn't hear Obama try to ridicule white people. In fact, he didnt discuss whites at all. I saw an intelligent, reasonable person, appealing to a group with which he has a shared cultural background and history. He points out (correctly) that political power for black Americans did not, and does not, come as easily as it has for white Americans.

So the narrative that "blacks are the real racists" or "blacks are just as racist as whites" or whatever, is not supported by the Obama ad.

When Obama discusses race, which, by the way, he does very rarely, he always discusses it in a reasonable, intelligent way.

Now, show me a clip of Obama playing a song called "Rush the Magic Honky" or something similarly offensive, and I will re-think my position.

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