Gun Control Laws and Legislation: Where Does Pennsylvania Stand?

Dec 18, 2012 Full story: Patch.com 784

On the books, Pennsylvania's gun laws are somewhat tougher than those found elsewhere in the United States, according to the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence .

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FritoBandito

San Diego, CA

#448 Jan 17, 2013
VN Vet wrote:
I always carry. It's better to be alive and in trouble, then legal and dead. You liberal lefty MFers can just go to hell. I WILL PROTECT MY RIGHTS.
Don't worry, once they throw you in the poky, we'll be sure to protect those rights you hate.
Marauder

Valdez, AK

#449 Jan 17, 2013
Spocko wrote:
To quote Forrest Gump:“Stupid is as stupid does - stupid is forever, ignorance can be fixed”
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Except in your case when YOU choose to remain willfully ignorant.
Marauder

Valdez, AK

#450 Jan 17, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
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Talking about stuck on stupid, 31,672 gun related deaths per 100,000 population per year in a nation of 307 million people is about 97,000,000 gun related deaths a year.Did you want to revise that figure of yours?
Further North Carolina doesn't require a permit to open carry so I think you should quit while you are behind. If you are talking about concealed carry permits ,3000 violations for 240,000 permit holders over a five year period is an average of .0025 percent a year. Nuns aren't that safe.
Gov't, anti-gun troll. He has posted this same BS msg across many different threads.

Registration leads to one thing...confiscation.
Marauder

Valdez, AK

#451 Jan 17, 2013
Spocko wrote:
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LOL ... just making sure you're paying attention here!
BS! YOU got caught spreading your own BS lies.
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#452 Jan 17, 2013
Spocko wrote:
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LOL ... you're stuck on stupid, if you get anymore stupid your head will surely explode :-/
I can see you were the star of your debate club. It is funny how it is o.k. to distort and prevent statistics and facts from being collected and disseminated to the public when it helps your cause but you cry foul when those with other view points do the same. I point out the BS and hypocrisy coming from both sides of the debate and for that I am called stupid. If you are looking for stupid, find a mirror.
CBOW

Dover, PA

#453 Jan 17, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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Posting bad links isn't going to win this for you. When are you going to address the fact that I refuted the claim you made?
What, couldn't you view it? This is from a liberal outlet, cbsnews.com . Don't trust what they print?
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#454 Jan 17, 2013
justagi wrote:
<quoted text>IDJIT- "Compare that with 31,672 gun related deaths per 100,000 population per year with relatively few guns in public display" means that almost one THIRD of the country has been murdered. 4th grade was the hardest 3 years of your life, wasn't it?
I see you paying attention!
The corrected numbers:
We have reduced car related fatalities to 12 per 100,000 considering the 200 million cars on the road every single day. Compare that with 10 gun related deaths per 100,000 population a total of 31,672 with most of those guns locked up in a drawer every single day. Besides, almost all gun death are intentional where as car death are clearly accidental!
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/201...

Since: Feb 09

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#455 Jan 17, 2013
Lou wrote:
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,he was shot by an off duty cop that got dressed and went to the scene .
Brave guy but after Whitman was picking people off below the tower and eight blocks away for an hour or so . He also told a shrink some time before the shooting he wanted to do the same thing he finally did . A few texans with guns un their pickup gun rack were firing back but all they did was ding the mortar and concrete up a bit.
I think the cops name was Ramirez , brave guy
I THINK there was at least one armed civilian with the police who went up there- but would have to read about it again to make sure. I know that Ramirez was one policeman there and did get at least one shot in- but a policeman named Houston McCoy, who died in late December, 2012, was the one who actually killed Whitman. For some reason, it is often mixed up to have been Martinez.

Here is an article about McCoy:

"American-Statesman Staff

Houston McCoy, the Austin police officer who stopped University of Texas Tower sniper Charles Whitman more than 46 years ago, died early Thursday afternoon in a rest home in his hometown of Menard. He was 72.

McCoy died from complications of chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, caused by many years of smoking, said his daughter Monika McCoy.

McCoy would have hated the first sentence of this obituary because it mentions Whitman.

In an interview with the American-Statesman in April 2011, he vehemently requested that Whitman — whom he didn’t call by name but referred to as “the sniper”— not be included in his final story.“But I guess you have to do that, mention the incident,” McCoy said.“Just be sure to say that I was not the only police officer there that day. It was teamwork.

“And, I do not want what I did that day to define me,” he said.

But that dark day in Austin history followed McCoy all his life. On Aug. 1, 1966, the 25-year-old Whitman fatally shot 14 people, including Austin police officer Billy Speed, and wounded 32 others until McCoy and fellow officer Ramiro Martinez both fired shots that stopped him. McCoy’s blast from a 12-gauge shotgun hit Whitman in the face, and, according to the autopsy, the fatal wounds were to Whitman’s head and heart.

A bullet from Martinez’s .38-caliber handgun also hit Whitman. Martinez also grabbed McCoy’s shotgun and shot Whitman one more time as he lay on the ground.

The frantic moments on the observation deck and who did what and when have been rehashed, researched and analyzed by history buffs and family. It’s generally accepted that it was McCoy’s shotgun blast that felled Whitman. But Martinez shot him, too, and initially got the credit until about 1970, when then-Police Chief Bob Miles first began to publicly talk about McCoy’s role in stopping Whitman. By then, McCoy had resigned from the department and was a civilian flight instructor in Del Rio for the U.S. Air Force.

From his bed in Menard Manor in 2011, McCoy recounted what he remembered:“I got him. But it really doesn’t matter whether I got him or Martinez did. Martinez is a good man, and he was the first police officer on the deck to confront the sniper. There were many heroes that day, police officers and civilians.”

Funeral services are pending but will be held sometime in early January, family members said. A portion of McCoy’s ashes will be put into the San Saba River, near where he was born and raised. The rest will be released with a helium balloon while the poem “High Flight” by John Gillespie Magee Jr.— a tribute to flying — will be read.

Wayne Vincent of the Austin Police Association said several current and retired officers will attend.

Austin Police Chief Art Acevedo said in a statement Thursday:“I was privileged to have met and spent time with Houston and his wonderful family the past few years and will miss him dearly. Please take a moment to pray for Houston and his family.”

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#456 Jan 17, 2013
^^^should have written- It is often mixed up to be RAMIREZ, not MATINEZ :/
Lou

Conshohocken, PA

#457 Jan 17, 2013
It seems like that was the era when all this goofiness started. Whitman , Speck to name a couple .

Whitman Texas Tower shooting live on a black and white TV . Wow , cars pulling over and pickup truck drivers grabbing their guns out of their gun racks anf firing at the observation deck. You couldn't tell if it was bullets hitting or shots returned .
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#458 Jan 17, 2013
FritoBandito wrote:
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Don't worry, once they throw you in the poky, we'll be sure to protect those rights you hate.
Why would they throw him in the pokey? He probably has a carry permit unlike the Democratic base that illegally possesses firearms and shoots the crap out of other disliked members of the Democratic base. No wonder Democrats want gun control,they keep losing their voters to self inflicted gun violence.

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#459 Jan 17, 2013
Lou wrote:
It seems like that was the era when all this goofiness started. Whitman , Speck to name a couple .
Whitman Texas Tower shooting live on a black and white TV . Wow , cars pulling over and pickup truck drivers grabbing their guns out of their gun racks anf firing at the observation deck. You couldn't tell if it was bullets hitting or shots returned .
Yes- there was Speck and the Boston Stranger also in the early to mid-1960s, though Speck and the Boston Strangler didn't use guns to kill their victims (Speck killed 8 nurses all in the same apartment), though Speck might have used a gun to gain entry initially- I'm not sure about that.

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#460 Jan 17, 2013
Also the Tate-La Bianca murders in 1969- two of the victims were shot (Jay Sebring and the young man at the gate in the car) and the other five were stabbed to death.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#461 Jan 17, 2013
Spocko wrote:
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I see you paying attention!
The corrected numbers:
We have reduced car related fatalities to 12 per 100,000 considering the 200 million cars on the road every single day. Compare that with 10 gun related deaths per 100,000 population a total of 31,672 with most of those guns locked up in a drawer every single day. Besides, almost all gun death are intentional where as car death are clearly accidental!
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/201...


So 6000 more people die every year from automobiles than die from firearms and the majority of those firearms deaths are suicides. If a person intends to commit suicide he/she will do so. The suicide rate in Japan is about twice that of the US and guns are banned so a person intent on suicide will find the means necessary.
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#463 Jan 17, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
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So 6000 more people die every year from automobiles than die from firearms and the majority of those firearms deaths are suicides. If a person intends to commit suicide he/she will do so. The suicide rate in Japan is about twice that of the US and guns are banned so a person intent on suicide will find the means necessary.
Spocko/Frank just cant see that.
FritoBandito

San Diego, CA

#464 Jan 17, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
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Why would they throw him in the pokey? He probably has a carry permit unlike the Democratic base that illegally possesses firearms and shoots the crap out of other disliked members of the Democratic base. No wonder Democrats want gun control,they keep losing their voters to self inflicted gun violence.
You mean the way Dick Cheney shot some cohort in the face while on a hunting trip?
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#465 Jan 17, 2013
FritoBandito wrote:
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You mean the way Dick Cheney shot some cohort in the face while on a hunting trip?
No I was thinking more on the lines of Chicago which was carried by Barack obama in the 2012 presidential election and had 516 homicide victims in 2012 and

NYC which was carried by Barack obama in the 2012 presidential election and had 414 homicide victims in 2012 and

Detroit which was carried by Barack Obama in the 2012 presidential election and had 411 homicide victims in 2012 and

Philadelphia which was carried by Barack Obama in the 2012 presidential election and had 331 homicide victims in 2012 and

Baltimore which was carried by Barack Obama in the 2012 presidential election and had 217 homicide victims in 2012

Los Angeles which was carried by Barack obama in the 2012 presidential election had 166 sophisticated homicide victims in 2012

Over 2000 homicide victims in just six Democratic cities
Lou

Conshohocken, PA

#466 Jan 17, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
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No I was thinking more on the lines of Chicago which was carried by Barack obama in the 2012 presidential election and had 516 homicide victims in 2012 and
NYC which was carried by Barack obama in the 2012 presidential election and had 414 homicide victims in 2012 and
Detroit which was carried by Barack Obama in the 2012 presidential election and had 411 homicide victims in 2012 and
Philadelphia which was carried by Barack Obama in the 2012 presidential election and had 331 homicide victims in 2012 and
Baltimore which was carried by Barack Obama in the 2012 presidential election and had 217 homicide victims in 2012
Los Angeles which was carried by Barack obama in the 2012 presidential election had 166 sophisticated homicide victims in 2012
Over 2000 homicide victims in just six Democratic cities
Not exactly Heavens Waiting Room where the most happening thing is walking your Peek-a-poo around a sunny block every morning .
FritoBandito

San Diego, CA

#467 Jan 17, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
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No I was thinking more on the lines of Chicago which was carried by Barack obama in the 2012 presidential election and had 516 homicide victims in 2012 and
NYC which was carried by Barack obama in the 2012 presidential election and had 414 homicide victims in 2012 and
Detroit which was carried by Barack Obama in the 2012 presidential election and had 411 homicide victims in 2012 and
Philadelphia which was carried by Barack Obama in the 2012 presidential election and had 331 homicide victims in 2012 and
Baltimore which was carried by Barack Obama in the 2012 presidential election and had 217 homicide victims in 2012
Los Angeles which was carried by Barack obama in the 2012 presidential election had 166 sophisticated homicide victims in 2012
Over 2000 homicide victims in just six Democratic cities
That's big city life for you. It's been that way under any given administration. Don't like it, then move to the suburbs.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#468 Jan 17, 2013
FritoBandito wrote:
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That's big city life for you. It's been that way under any given administration. Don't like it, then move to the suburbs.


Already moved out of Brooklyn. If you don't like my assault style weapons, move to the urban areas that prohibit them.

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