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Minnesota Senate OKs 2012 statewide vote on amendment banning gay marriage

There are 212 comments on the TwinCities.com story from May 11, 2011, titled Minnesota Senate OKs 2012 statewide vote on amendment banning gay marriage. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

The state Senate on Wednesday approved a statewide vote in 2012 on a gay marriage ban in the Minnesota Constitution, pushing forward what's expected to be a contentious debate over the definition of legal unions.

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Minnesotans will decide

Minneapolis, MN

#1 May 11, 2011
"...Despite the perception of changing opinion, the 31 states that have voted on constitutional gay marriage bans have all passed them. Dibble and his allies said they believed Minnesota had the potential to be the first to vote one down. But most said they did not relish what Sen. Linda Higgins predicted would be a "long, divisive and bitter debate" - one likely to attract attention and a steady stream of political spending from national groups on both sides of the issue....
Democratic Gov. Mark Dayton has said he opposes the amendment, but governors can't block lawmakers from putting constitutional amendments on the ballot."

It's a debate that's long overdue, one which has been bottled up by Democrat legislators who have muzzled citizens' input at every opportunity.

Since: Dec 10

Minneapolis, MN

#2 May 11, 2011
let the people vote
Know it all

Superior National Forest, MN

#3 May 11, 2011
This is the most important issue they could come up with? What a bunch of idiots.
Equal

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#4 May 11, 2011
It should come as no surprise a majority can and will restrict the equal rights of a minority, and that is the very reason our government was not structured as a direct democracy, but rather as a representative republic with a constitution and bill of rights, division of powers, with checks and balances on those powers. Equal rights were never intended to be dependant on any vote, no matter how popular. John Adams, the second U.S. president, stated that "the majority has eternally, and without one exception, usurped over the rights of the minority." Or as Jesse Ventura put it, "You can't put a civil rights issue on the ballot and let the people decide … If you left it up to the people, we'd have slavery, depending on how you worded it."
Equal

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#5 May 11, 2011
OH YES ITS TRUE ITS TRUE wrote:
let the people vote
Most people who want to vote on equal rights have nothing to lose, and know majorities will restrict the rights of others if given the chance. Equality was never intended to be up for a vote, and we know from history and science that prejudice and discrimination result in suffering and death.

The U.S. Supreme Court said: "The very purpose of a Bill of Rights was to withdraw certain subjects from the vicissitudes of political controversy, to place them beyond the reach of majorities and officials and to establish them as legal principles to be applied by the courts. One's right to life, liberty, and property, to free speech, a free press, freedom of worship and assembly, and other fundamental rights may not be submitted to vote; they depend on the outcome of no elections."
Equal

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#6 May 11, 2011
The will of the people often results in majorities harming minorities, and that is the very reason our government was not structured as a direct democracy, but rather as a representative republic with a constitution and bill of rights, division of powers, with checks and balances on those powers. Equal rights were never intended to be dependant on any vote, no matter how popular.

James Madison wrote:“It is of great importance in a republic not only to guard the society against the oppression of its rulers, but to guard one part of the society against the injustice of the other part … If a majority be united by a common interest, the rights of the minority will be insecure.”

Since: Mar 10

Minneapolis, MN

#7 May 11, 2011
why is it that people who want to shrink government at every turn want to put government in people's bedrooms and personal lives? if you really want to shrink government then get out of these personal issues of concience (abortion, gay rights, etc). am i a big fan of gay marriage, not necessarily, since i am a catholic. but is it government's place to decide that for me and other catholics and other people who do not believe how i do? NO.
Palmquist1

United States

#8 May 11, 2011
There are a lot of people who believe in this law and they call themselves American this bill is against are constitution. Amendment 4
tired1

Saint Paul, MN

#9 May 11, 2011
Get rid of the labels & there will be no minorities. Everyone will be judged on their character & not by the color of their skin or the ring on their finger.
Equal

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#10 May 11, 2011
"The conservative movement, to which I subscribe, has as one of its basic tenets the belief that government should stay out of people’s private lives. Government governs best when it governs least - and stays out of the impossible task of legislating morality. But legislating someone’s version of morality is exactly what we do by perpetuating discrimination against gays." (Former AZ Senator and Republican Presidential candidate Barry Goldwater, 1993)
Equal

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#11 May 11, 2011
Minnesotans will decide wrote:
"...Despite the perception of changing opinion, the 31 states that have voted on constitutional gay marriage bans have all passed them. Dibble and his allies said they believed Minnesota had the potential to be the first to vote one down. But most said they did not relish what Sen. Linda Higgins predicted would be a "long, divisive and bitter debate" - one likely to attract attention and a steady stream of political spending from national groups on both sides of the issue....
Democratic Gov. Mark Dayton has said he opposes the amendment, but governors can't block lawmakers from putting constitutional amendments on the ballot."
It's a debate that's long overdue, one which has been bottled up by Democrat legislators who have muzzled citizens' input at every opportunity.
Arizona defeated a constitutional amendment that prohibited marriage equality, but that one also prohibited domestic partnerships, including for straight seniors, which is probably why it was defeated.

But equal rights were never intended to depend on any vote, no matter how popular, and that is why we have a Bill of Rights. I hope Minnesota voters will realize irrational prejudice and discrimination have no place in the constitution.
tedd

Hillsboro, OR

#12 May 11, 2011
it should be decided by the majority not the minority, as it will be
Equal

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#13 May 11, 2011
tedd wrote:
it should be decided by the majority not the minority, as it will be
How can it ever be fair for a majority to decide on the equal rights of a minority? As Jesse Ventura said, "You can't put a civil rights issue on the ballot and let the people decide … If you left it up to the people, we'd have slavery, depending on how you worded it."
wat

Downingtown, PA

#14 May 11, 2011
Not gonna pass.

How about working on getting us jobs!
Cant Wait to Vote

Roy, WA

#15 May 11, 2011
The homosexuals are always screaming that they want the government out of their bedrooms.
No one is trying to prohibit private behavior.
But since homosexuals insist on bringing their bedrooms into the government by trying to get special rights and subsidies, tying up the courts with their lawsuits, and preaching and promoting homosexuality to little school children in the government schools, it's beyond hypocrisy for them to whine about government intrusion into their private lives when they are trying use the power of government to force the 99% of normal people to accept their lifestyle and pay them for it.
Homosexuals and liberals are always saying large majorities of normal people already accept the homosexual lifestyle and are demanding homosexual marriage...if so, why are all the lefties so afraid of hearing what the people have to say about this issue at the polls?
Bill Clinton

Garfield, MN

#16 May 11, 2011
Hillary opposes this and feels that it is discriminatory against gays. Dump Obama vote Hillary!
Mike

United States

#17 May 11, 2011
God's will be done...
tedd

Hillsboro, OR

#18 May 11, 2011
Equal wrote:
<quoted text>
How can it ever be fair for a majority to decide on the equal rights of a minority? As Jesse Ventura said, "You can't put a civil rights issue on the ballot and let the people decide … If you left it up to the people, we'd have slavery, depending on how you worded it."
civil right your sore assss

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#19 May 11, 2011
Minnesotans will decide wrote:
"...Despite the perception of changing opinion, the 31 states that have voted on constitutional gay marriage bans have all passed them. Dibble and his allies said they believed Minnesota had the potential to be the first to vote one down. But most said they did not relish what Sen. Linda Higgins predicted would be a "long, divisive and bitter debate" - one likely to attract attention and a steady stream of political spending from national groups on both sides of the issue....
Democratic Gov. Mark Dayton has said he opposes the amendment, but governors can't block lawmakers from putting constitutional amendments on the ballot."
It's a debate that's long overdue, one which has been bottled up by Democrat legislators who have muzzled citizens' input at every opportunity.
Just for a perspective on 'the peoples' opinion'...wasn't it Mississippi that just did a poll and the majority of their people thought inter-racial marriage should not be legal?'The people' are sometimes fully against the constitution of our country.'The people' do not make our civil rights.
republican

Saint Paul, MN

#20 May 11, 2011
Cant Wait to Vote wrote:
The homosexuals are always screaming that they want the government out of their bedrooms.
No one is trying to prohibit private behavior.
But since homosexuals insist on bringing their bedrooms into the government by trying to get special rights and subsidies, tying up the courts with their lawsuits, and preaching and promoting homosexuality to little school children in the government schools, it's beyond hypocrisy for them to whine about government intrusion into their private lives when they are trying use the power of government to force the 99% of normal people to accept their lifestyle and pay them for it.
Homosexuals and liberals are always saying large majorities of normal people already accept the homosexual lifestyle and are demanding homosexual marriage...if so, why are all the lefties so afraid of hearing what the people have to say about this issue at the polls?
you are one dense individual, its the christian heterosexuals (STRAIGHT) that are ruining the family and the institution of marriage by getting divorced and abandoning their families.

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