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After tough week, White House buys time for Obamacare website fix

There are 160 comments on the Reuters story from Oct 26, 2013, titled After tough week, White House buys time for Obamacare website fix. In it, Reuters reports that:

President Barack Obama promised on Saturday that his troubled healthcare website was just weeks away from a cure as he struggled to convince Americans he is on top of what has become a self-inflicted wound to his signature first-term achievement.

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Robert

Douglasville, GA

#1 Oct 26, 2013
I ll fix this in just weeks

If you want to keep your plan you can keep it

Your healthcare bill will drop by $2500 a year

This bill will not raise taxes on those under $250,000

“Hicksville Hootenanny”

Since: Sep 13

Kornfield Kounty

#2 Oct 26, 2013
Robert wrote:
I ll fix this in just weeks
If you want to keep your plan you can keep it
Your healthcare bill will drop by $2500 a year
This bill will not raise taxes on those under $250,000
We all know the facts, but thanks for reminding everyone about a few of the benefits of the ACA.
senior citizen

Granite City, IL

#3 Oct 26, 2013
Just weeks away from a cure - Obama has lied to us so many times it is even getting hard for his Dems to believe him anymore. I am sure there will be a lot of cover up in this ACV just like there are in the IRS, NSA, BENGHAZI, FAST AND FURIOUS and the list goes on and on and on.
stormy

Farmington, WV

#4 Oct 26, 2013
Is it time for Obama to step up and admit HIS, yes
HIS Obama Care is a mess and it should be put in
the toilet with the rest of His wonderful plans
to "break US"! Sinking faster than a ship full of holes and YET he stay MUM as if he had nothing to do with it. The people are brain dead
just as he knew you would be. He casts his spell, and its all crumbling down and they don't
even notice. First graders are asking why they
have so many dumb rules so they can't eat what they
like or have fun on the playground anymore...They
just want to stay home or have it changed. Ha,
just think how they feel about you next year
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sheepleloveroyal ty

Bryn Mawr, PA

#7 Oct 26, 2013
I think it was that Dr Ezekiel Emanuel on Kelly File said most people will wait until the last minute to enroll. So by Dec 15 we'll know. He said can't judge by the current numbers.

The website is just part of the process but it is not THE problem with Obama Care which will be COST. The COST issue or price gouging from the providers and insurers is THE problem, not who or how a bill from the medical mafia will be paid.
bottlecap

Orlando, FL

#8 Oct 26, 2013
This is what "Obamacare" is all about----STEALING!

http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/25/michelle-ob...

"First Lady Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is a top executive at the company that earned the contract to build the failed Obamacare website."

"Toni Townes-Whitley, Princeton class of ’85, is senior vice president at CGI Federal, which earned the no-bid contract to build the $678 million Obamacare enrollment website at Healthcare.gov . CGI Federal is the U.S. arm of a Canadian company."

"Townes-Whitley and her Princeton classmate Michelle Obama are both members of the Association of Black Princeton Alumni."
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$678 Million for the website!!!! SIX HUNDRED and SEVENTY-Eight MILLION!!

And it was a "no-bid contract given to Michelle's friends company. Par for the most CORRUPT Admin. in US History.
bottlecap

Orlando, FL

#9 Oct 26, 2013
sheepleloveroyalty wrote:
The website is just part of the process but it is not THE problem
But the website fiasco, with its cost is an indication of the mindset of this administration, foreshadowing fraud and criminality.

“My Commander-in-Chi ef!”

Since: Jun 07

Obama got Osama!

#10 Oct 26, 2013
Winning is a beautiful thing.
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#11 Oct 26, 2013
Marine Corp Pat wrote:
Winning is a beautiful thing.
No shame in stealing your neighbor's hard earned paycheck. How much is enough? Anyway they are still buying the guns in record numbers. In the end there will be winners and losers. Not just how you expect.
Responsibility

Petaluma, CA

#12 Oct 26, 2013
Seems there was a lot of chest beating and harrumphing and hot air over other programs when they were introduced and, despite initial glitches, seem to be favored well years down the line.

Perhaps you guys need to re-read Green Eggs and Ham. LOLL

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#13 Oct 26, 2013
Buying off the clock keeper is the plan. With the MSM on the score board, this is a bigger Solyndra, Fast&Furious, Election2012, and BenghaziDECEPTION.
All in one smelly pile.
Next to it is NSA, and the damage to American international image.

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#14 Oct 26, 2013
Marine Corp Pat wrote:
Winning is a beautiful thing.
The Pied Piper loves children.

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#15 Oct 26, 2013
stormy wrote:
Is it time for Obama to step up and admit HIS, yes
HIS Obama Care is a mess and it should be put in
the toilet with the rest of His wonderful plans
to "break US"! Sinking faster than a ship full of holes and YET he stay MUM as if he had nothing to do with it. The people are brain dead
just as he knew you would be. He casts his spell, and its all crumbling down and they don't
even notice. First graders are asking why they
have so many dumb rules so they can't eat what they
like or have fun on the playground anymore...They
just want to stay home or have it changed. Ha,
just think how they feel about you next year
Here's the utter stupidity regarding your post;
1 - it's much more than simply a mere web site - anyone can call to receive the same sign up services as on line;

2 - states that are running the exchanges themselves are doing great - 26 states, including Kentucky, have reported sign ups averaging 1000 per day;

3 - New York alone had over 200,000 people sign up so far - overall, more than 500,000 people have officially signed up, even with the glitches.

4 - you people want state rights, give states control / well, look what happens when states refuse to allow their citizens the right to sign up for health care. The feds have to step in, and when things don't run smoothly, your elected officials roar "WE TOLD YOU IT WOULDN'T WORK!" And you foolishly believe them.

5 - I've already found insurance for less than half what I paid last year - as did many others, but I can almost guarantee you never even looked, right? If you have not looked, how can you make any rational conclusion? Because your ideology tells you to? Because Cruz tells you so?

6 - Lastly, Obamacare has now reached 46% approval - don't sound like it's sinking, as you imply. You may WANT it to, but that's not happening. The more people look, and educate themselves, the more enlightened they become.

Case in point, Hannity ran a segment where 3 couples were on stating how Obamacare is ruining their livelihood. They were all interviewed after the show - here's what was actually found out - and indicative of why Hannity's ratings have fallen 35% from last year, and continue to decline;

"I decided to hit the pavement. I tracked down Hannity’s guests, one by one, and did my own telephone interviews with them."

http://www.salon.com/2013/10/18/inside_the_fo...

"In a move to get senior citizen magnet and ratings killer Sean Hannity as far away from the ratings as contractually possible, Fox News has banished the GOP talking points machine to 10 PM."

http://www.politicususa.com/2013/09/17/fox-ne...

Why remain willfully ignorant?
sheepleloveroyal ty

Bryn Mawr, PA

#16 Oct 26, 2013
bottlecap wrote:
<quoted text>
But the website fiasco, with its cost is an indication of the mindset of this administration, foreshadowing fraud and criminality.
It's definitely a indication of things to come. I heard one of the biggest reasons for the failure is that it was a last minute request to give the registered applicant a final price AFTER subsidies. They didn't want the actual cost of the INSURANCE policy known. They wanted it to 'seem' cheap.

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#17 Oct 26, 2013
bottlecap wrote:
<quoted text>
But the website fiasco, with its cost is an indication of the mindset of this administration, foreshadowing fraud and criminality.
The "costs" of this web site you and every other Obama hater and hater of any progressive idea is a complete fallacy. Amount allocated to build this site was 90 million / actual costs to date - 70 million dollars;

""As for cash, it appears that HHS spent over $600 million for the online system -- more than it took to get Facebook started," wrote John Sununu in a Boston Globe column, while the Washington Times reported, "The administration hasn't said how much these efforts will cost; estimates indicate the website already has cost taxpayers more than $600 million."

Even ABC News pushed the report, noting "The administration has not provided a final cost of the website, although some estimates place it between $500 million to $600 million."

But the accounting employed by Digital Trends raised some eyebrows even within the conservative media. National Review Online contributor Greg Pollowitz tweeted that the CGI contracts Digital Trends pointed to included work that the firm had done for the U.S. government years before health care reform was actually passed into law.

Glenn Beck's site, The Blaze, also debunked the number. "While the federal website to signup for Obamacare was riddled with errors and had a rocky rollout, it didn't cost $634 million to build," wrote Liz Klimas. Citing an official inside GCI, The Blaze reported the $634 figure "includes all of the company's contracts for a Health and Human Services Department program over the last seven years."

Independently, the Sunlight Foundation estimated it cost $70 million to build the much-maligned website, not $634 million.(Officially, CGI was awarded a $93 million contract for the healthcare.gov job.)"

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/10/24/the-m...

You people need to debunk your own blatantly false sources, which only attempt to scare people into thinking this egregious amount was spent, when the contract signed by CGI was for 93 million dollars.

"The new healthcare exchange site has been the topic of several news stories these past few weeks. Many of them are quoting vastly different numbers for how much it cost to build. You'd think that sites like USASpending.gov or the Federal IT Dashboard1 would be able to give us some idea. But in reality, that's just not how federal spending is reported.

healthcare_ladyMuch of government spending is bundled into huge contracts called IDIQs (indefinite delivery, indefinite quantity) that are meant to span many years and may go to multiple recipients. They're a lot like regular contracts except they can have very vague requirements and once the IDIQ itself has been competed, the government no longer has any requirement to compete any contract within that IDIQ. CGI Federal has one of these IDIQ contracts with the Department of Health and Human services. It was signed in 2007, long before the Affordable Care Act became law, and lasts until 2017. Within each IDIQ, the government creates purchase or task orders for specific services, which you can find in the Federal Procurement Data System (FPDS). You can see a list of all the task orders for the CGI Federal IDIQ here.

http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2013/10/22...
EXPERT

Redding, CA

#18 Oct 26, 2013
TonyT1961 wrote:
<quoted text>
The "costs" of this web site you and every other Obama hater and hater of any progressive idea is a complete fallacy. Amount allocated to build this site was 90 million / actual costs to date - 70 million dollars;
""As for cash, it appears that HHS spent over $600 million for the online system -- more than it took to get Facebook started," wrote John Sununu in a Boston Globe column, while the Washington Times reported, "The administration hasn't said how much these efforts will cost; estimates indicate the website already has cost taxpayers more than $600 million."
Even ABC News pushed the report, noting "The administration has not provided a final cost of the website, although some estimates place it between $500 million to $600 million."
But the accounting employed by Digital Trends raised some eyebrows even within the conservative media. National Review Online contributor Greg Pollowitz tweeted that the CGI contracts Digital Trends pointed to included work that the firm had done for the U.S. government years before health care reform was actually passed into law.
Glenn Beck's site, The Blaze, also debunked the number. "While the federal website to signup for Obamacare was riddled with errors and had a rocky rollout, it didn't cost $634 million to build," wrote Liz Klimas. Citing an official inside GCI, The Blaze reported the $634 figure "includes all of the company's contracts for a Health and Human Services Department program over the last seven years."
Independently, the Sunlight Foundation estimated it cost $70 million to build the much-maligned website, not $634 million.(Officially, CGI was awarded a $93 million contract for the healthcare.gov job.)"
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/10/24/the-m...
You people need to debunk your own blatantly false sources, which only attempt to scare people into thinking this egregious amount was spent, when the contract signed by CGI was for 93 million dollars.
"The new healthcare exchange site has been the topic of several news stories these past few weeks. Many of them are quoting vastly different numbers for how much it cost to build. You'd think that sites like USASpending.gov or the Federal IT Dashboard1 would be able to give us some idea. But in reality, that's just not how federal spending is reported.
healthcare_ladyMuch of government spending is bundled into huge contracts called IDIQs (indefinite delivery, indefinite quantity) that are meant to span many years and may go to multiple recipients. They're a lot like regular contracts except they can have very vague requirements and once the IDIQ itself has been competed, the government no longer has any requirement to compete any contract within that IDIQ. CGI Federal has one of these IDIQ contracts with the Department of Health and Human services. It was signed in 2007, long before the Affordable Care Act became law, and lasts until 2017. Within each IDIQ, the government creates purchase or task orders for specific services, which you can find in the Federal Procurement Data System (FPDS). You can see a list of all the task orders for the CGI Federal IDIQ here.
http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2013/10/22...
So you are arguing that $93 million is reasonable for this FAILED product?

Also, how much more is reasonable to fix the Obama Disaster?

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#19 Oct 26, 2013
EXPERT wrote:
<quoted text>
So you are arguing that $93 million is reasonable for this FAILED product?
Also, how much more is reasonable to fix the Obama Disaster?
There is still 23 million in the original contract - I'm sure this will be fixed. I signed up one week ago, saving 53% from my current plan - and still with Empire Blue Cross / Blue Shield. Former deductible was $2500.00 / my new deductible -$1000.00, 80% covered, as with my previous plan.(Silver Plan)

BTW - the state run exchanges in yours and my state run very smoothly - why are you bitching?

Also, to answer your question, the only states having issues are the states refusing to comply with the ACA - 26 other states have no issues, including Kentucky, signing up over 1000 people each day.

Not bad for in your words, a "failed" system.
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“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#21 Oct 26, 2013
Clef Hanger wrote:
Just keep giving Obama all the rope he needs.
He's making the republicans very successful without them doing a thing.
He's a GOP dream come true.
Re-writing history don't help you son - you just look more foolish with each rant. Case in point - Obamacare rises in favorable ratings to 46% according to right leaning Rasmussen;

"A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 46% of Likely U.S. Voters now have at least a somewhat favorable opinion of Obamacare, while only slightly more (48%) view it at least somewhat unfavorably."

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_conten...

Tea party at all time low of 24% approval;

http://www.people-press.org/2013/10/16/tea-pa...

NBC / WSJ poll dummy;

"The Republican Party has been badly damaged in the ongoing government shutdown and debt limit standoff, with a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finding that a majority of Americans blame the GOP for the shutdown, and with the party’s popularity declining to its lowest level.

By a 22-point margin (53 percent to 31 percent), the public blames the Republican Party more for the shutdown than President Barack Obama – a wider margin of blame for the GOP than the party received during the poll during the last shutdown in 1995-96.

Just 24 percent of respondents have a favorable opinion about the GOP, and only 21 percent have a favorable view of the Tea Party, which are both at all-time lows in the history of poll."

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/10...

Must suck to have fantasy on your side, instead of facts Clef Pallet!
EXPERT

Redding, CA

#22 Oct 26, 2013
TonyT1961 wrote:
<quoted text>
There is still 23 million in the original contract - I'm sure this will be fixed. I signed up one week ago, saving 53% from my current plan - and still with Empire Blue Cross / Blue Shield. Former deductible was $2500.00 / my new deductible -$1000.00, 80% covered, as with my previous plan.(Silver Plan)
BTW - the state run exchanges in yours and my state run very smoothly - why are you bitching?
Also, to answer your question, the only states having issues are the states refusing to comply with the ACA - 26 other states have no issues, including Kentucky, signing up over 1000 people each day.
Not bad for in your words, a "failed" system.
So, you want to dance, pumpkin? Okay...

Empire Blue Cross Blue Shield, the largest health insurer in the region, announced to health insurance brokers on Friday that it will eliminate most of its small group plans in the New York market effective April 1, 2012, and is slashing its financial incentives for brokers to sell those products – a move one industry insider has said would be “catastrophic” for the insurance marketplace.

“Several factors are driving our need to increase rates: health provider charges have gone up; fewer small group employers and employees are purchasing coverage so those remaining face higher costs; we are experiencing the affects of adverse selection in our risk pool; and, there have been reductions in state subsidies that previously served to lower cost and premiums for certain mandated products,” Empire’s statement reads.

“The major carrier’s pending withdrawal from the small group market is nothing short of catastrophic to small employers in the state,” it says.“Multiple small employers with literally tens of thousands of employees are going to be left without coverage, as there will be only two to three other carriers left in which brokers may try to place coverage. If the other carriers follow suit, the availability of coverage will dry up entirely.”

So, good luck with that...LOL
sheepleloveroyal ty

Bryn Mawr, PA

#23 Oct 26, 2013
EXPERT wrote:
<quoted text>
So you are arguing that $93 million is reasonable for this FAILED product?
Also, how much more is reasonable to fix the Obama Disaster?
I'm more disappointed in the fact the same company has been apparently given over half a BILLION dollars in contracts for years and this is what they deliver? Business as usual?

A lot of IT experts say this is or should be a fairly simple data collection site and/or program. I thought I heard one techie say this should've been about a million and a half. It's all the communication and networking to other agencies and sites that might be slowing things down in the verification process.

I still don't think this all on the vendor. I think the requirements put on them slowed things up.

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