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#168 May 13, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
Still waiting for Reid to bring up that gun control legislation.
Still waiting, Lying C*T74.

WHERE IS THAT PROOF?
Cat74 wrote:
In some voting precincts all over the U S there were more people who voted then lived in the precinct.
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#170 May 13, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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"The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms shall NOT be infringed".
If you don't like the real Second Amendment, GayDavy, why not change it to your version?

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#171 May 13, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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Care to explain THIS, traitor-troll?-...
~stomp stomp stomp~

Poor GayDavy.

Never ever lifted a finger for this country but never ever stops whining.
Cat74

Barrington, IL

#172 May 13, 2013
The 2nd Amendment was never more applicable then it is today. The Liberals can rail, and rant, but they can never disarm this country.
why

Santa Fe, NM

#173 May 13, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
The 2nd Amendment was never more applicable then it is today. The Liberals can rail, and rant, but they can never disarm this country.
do you say that? The British have come and gone, we have state militia and a large standing Army
Cat74

Barrington, IL

#174 May 13, 2013
And who commands the Army? The State militia? Politicians, and the Commander in Cief. The founders wanted the American public to be ready to challange the government if that became needed. They were right, and we are ready.

“Happiness comes through giving”

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#175 May 13, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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Care to explain THIS, traitor-troll?-
Security Treaty Between the United States and Japan;
“September 8, 1951 (1)
“Japan has this day signed a Treaty of Peace with the Allied Powers.(2) On the coming into force of that Treaty, Japan will not have the effective means to exercise its inherent right of self-defense because it has been disarmed.
“There is danger to Japan in this situation because irresponsible militarism has not yet been driven from the world. Therefore Japan desires a Security Treaty with the United States of America to come into force simultaneously with the Treaty of Peace between the United States of America and Japan.
“The Treaty of Peace recognizes that Japan as a sovereign nation has the right to enter into collective security arrangements, and further, the Charter of the United Nations recognizes that all nations possess an inherent right of individual and collective self-defense.*
“In exercise of these rights, Japan desires, as a provisional arrangement for its defense, that the United States of America should maintain armed forces of its own in and about Japan so as to deter armed attack upon Japan.
“The United States of America, in the interest of peace and security, is presently willing to maintain certain of its armed forces in and about Japan, in the expectation, however, that Japan will itself increasingly assume responsibility for its own defense against direct and indirect aggression, always avoiding any armament which could be an offensive threat or serve other than to promote peace and security in accordance with the purposes and principles of the United Nations Charter.”
So, let me see if I understand this correctly. Our government signed a treaty with the Japan. Which had been guilty of GENOCIDE, and various other gross violations of civilized warfare. And then they acknowledge that our ENEMY had an inherent right to self-defense? And yet our same perversely HYPOCRITICAL government has been actively working to undermine our Second Amendment Right, enumerated in our OWN Constitution? Explain, please.....
Explain it? I won't even read it. Life's to short to continue to read the deranged diatribes of the paranoid right.
Cat74

Barrington, IL

#176 May 13, 2013
I doubt the posts put ont here apply to liberals anyway. Why bother. They are not capable of understanding what we are talking about.
nope

Santa Fe, NM

#177 May 13, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
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the founders wanted us to be prepared for foreign invasion in absence of a large standing army that would be needed to protect the land base.

And in the next amendment they made it clear that they didn't want to be forced to quarter soldiers in their houses.

Why do you hate your own country, our institutions and its leaders? What is wrong with you?
Yeah

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#178 May 13, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
I doubt the posts put ont here apply to liberals anyway. Why bother. They are not capable of understanding what we are talking about.
were not going to abandon reality and common sense just to try to get on your tin foil hat wave length.

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

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San Jose, CA.

#179 May 13, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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If you don't like the real Second Amendment, GayDavy, why not change it to your version?
No need to, traitor-troll:

The Preamble to The Bill of Rights

Congress of the United States
begun and held at the City of New-York, on
Wednesday the fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine.

THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to PREVENT MISCONSTRUCTION or ABUSE of its powers, that further DECLARATORY and RESTRICTIVE clauses should be added: And as EXTENDING the ground of PUBLIC CONFIDENCE in the Government, will BEST ENSURE the beneficent ends of its institution.

RESOLVED by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following Articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as amendments to the Constitution of the United States, ALL, or any of which Articles, when RATIFIED by three fourths of the said Legislatures, to be VALID to ALL INTENTS and PURPOSES, as PART of the said Constitution; viz.

ARTICLES in addition to, and Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the fifth Article of the original Constitution.

Amendment II

DECLARATORY clause;

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,

RESTRICTIVE clause;

the Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms, shall NOT be infringed.

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#180 May 13, 2013
nope wrote:
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the founders wanted us to be prepared for foreign invasion in absence of a large standing army that would be needed to protect the land base.
And in the next amendment they made it clear that they didn't want to be forced to quarter soldiers in their houses.
Why do you hate your own country, our institutions and its leaders? What is wrong with you?
LYING traitor-troll:

"If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government ... The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms..."--Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers No. 28.

"...Little more can reasonably be aimed at, with respect to the PEOPLE AT LARGE, than to have them properly ARMED and EQUIPPED .... but if circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude, that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people, while there is a large body of citizens, LITTLE, if at ALL, INFERIOR to them in discipline and the USE OF ARMS, who stand ready to DEFEND THEIR OWN RIGHTS, and those of their fellow citizens. This appears to me the only substitute that can be devised for a standing army; and the best possible security against it, if it should exist."--Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist No. 29, Independent Journal, Wednesday, January 9, 1788.

"Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of. Notwithstanding the military establishments in the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. And it is not certain, that with this aid alone they would not be able to shake off their yokes .... Let us not insult the free and gallant citizens of America with the suspicion, that they would be less able to defend the rights of which they would be in actual possession, than the debased subjects of arbitrary power would be to rescue theirs from the hands of their oppressors. Let us rather no longer insult them with the supposition that they can ever reduce themselves to the necessity of making the experiment, by a blind and tame submission to the long train of insidious measures which must precede and produce it."--James Madison, The Federalist Papers No. 46, Tuesday, January 29, 1788.

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

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San Jose, CA.

#181 May 13, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Explain it? I won't even read it. Life's to short to continue to read the deranged diatribes of the paranoid right.
Isn't it strange how the LIE-beral mind is always aversive to the ACTUAL FACTS? They really do love living the LIE.

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#182 May 13, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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No need to, traitor-troll:
Kentucky enacted the first carrying concealed weapon statute in the United States in 1813.

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#183 May 13, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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LYING traitor-troll:
Stomp stomp stomp.

Kentucky enacted the first carrying concealed weapon statute in the United States in 1813.

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#184 May 13, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
James Madison,
Slave owner.

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#185 May 13, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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Isn't it strange how the LIE-beral mind is always aversive to the ACTUAL FACTS?
I see you skipped over this, GayDavy:

GunShow1 wrote:
Why were there NO 'gun control laws' from 1791 all the way up to 1934?
Kentucky enacted the first carrying concealed weapon statute in the United States in 1813.

Funny how cuntservatives skip over facts, even when it has been displayed twenty times.

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

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#186 May 13, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Kentucky enacted the first carrying concealed weapon statute in the United States in 1813.
You do understand the difference between STATE and FEDERAL laws, right traitor-troll?

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#187 May 13, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
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You do understand the difference between STATE and FEDERAL laws, right traitor-troll?
GunShow1 wrote:
Why were there NO 'gun control laws' from 1791 all the way up to 1934?
Poor Paintchips: caught with his panties around his ankles again!

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

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#188 May 13, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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GunShow1 wrote:
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Poor Paintchips: caught with his panties around his ankles again!
You do understand the difference between STATE and FEDERAL, right traitor-troll? Or maybe not, considering how little you use your brain[?]

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