Once slow-moving threat, global warmi...

Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

There are 63621 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#46678 May 11, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
Our greatest problem in America (And a large part of the rest of the world) is our economic system. Capitalism is totally a man made system. It has no counterpart in nature. It is not part of the natural world and is not influenced by the balances of nature. Does capitalism consider the pollution of our streams, the degradation of the air, poisoning of the ecosystem through synthetic chemicals, etc.? No, it considers only the generation of wealth for the most affluent. That is all. It will not solve all problems. Why do so many believe that it will?....
Global warming isn't a problem with climate, it's a political issue. See Pat's post above for proof.

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#46679 May 11, 2014
Mothra wrote:
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<sigh>
*poof"
More of the evil CO2 puffed into the atmosphere by one who claims to believe in the global warming CRISIS.
How do warmists live with their hypocrisy?
Wack..whackkk...whaacckkk...go t 'em!
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#46680 May 11, 2014
OzRitz wrote:
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More important how do you live with...
What?!

No defense of even an explanation for your hypocrisy?

I"m not surprised.... as you shouldn't be by the lack of credibility it creates for your "settled science".

LOL
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#46681 May 11, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
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Wack..whackkk...whaacckkk...go t 'em!
Aww gee... another hypocrite warmist.

But please demonstrate some intellectual honestly and quit calling global warming any sort of crisis.

I know... I know.... you won't adhere to any of the mountainous "science" you keep posting about a crisis. You'll keep posting making yourself a bigger and bigger hypocrite.

No matter to me... I'll enjoy mocking you and the other phony warmists.

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

Gauley Bridge WV

#46682 May 11, 2014
Wal-Mart Now Draws More Solar Power Than 38 U.S. States
By Tom Randall Oct 25, 2013 5:25 AM ET Solar power and keg stands have one thing in common: Wal-Mart wants to profit from them.

In the race for commercial solar power, Wal-Mart is killing it. The company now has almost twice as much capacity as second-place Costco. A better comparison: Wal-Mart is converting more sun into energy than 38 U.S. states.

In the beer department, Wal-Mart recently decided alcohol was good business and vowed to double sales by 2016. The result: 500 reps from the alcohol industry converged on the Sam’s Club auditorium in Bentonville, Arkansas, for an “adult beverages summit” focused on Wal-Mart.“It’s even selling it in garden centers,” Bloomberg News’s Renee Dudley wrote in August.

With solar, will Wal-Mart have the same industry-focusing presence its had with booze? If small business is the heart of the U.S. economy, Wal-Mart is the gluteus maximus -- the power muscle. The company redefines global supply chains and crunches cost reductions in just about every area it touches. More than 80 publicly traded companies rely on Wal-Mart for 10 percent or more of their annual revenue, according to Bloomberg data.

“When we find something that works -- like solar -- we go big with it,” the company’s website proclaims.



When companies tout their solar street cred, it's generally not because they're actually plugging panels in themselves. Most of Wal-Mart's projects are done through what are called power-purchase agreements, where third-party developers install, own and operate the systems on Wal-Mart rooftops. Wal-Mart simply locks in cheap long-term rates to buy back the electricity and take the green credit.

After a 40 percent surge in installations through the second quarter, Wal-Mart now draws on 89 megawatts of capacity, according to a report last week by the Solar Energy Industries Association. That’s roughly enough to power 22,250 U.S. homes.

Even Wal-Mart has a lot more room to grow. According to the Environmental Protection Agency, green power accounts for just 4 percent of the company’s electricity use. IKEA, the world’s biggest home-furnishings retailer, is taking solar a step further. The Swedish company plans to begin selling solar-panel systems in its U.K. stores next year, with a standard 3.36-kilowatt system costing $9,200.

For companies that took a look at solar a few years ago and passed, it may be time to look again. Prices of panels have fallen 60 percent just since 2011, and the average price of an installed solar project has dropped 30 percent, according to industry data.

It’s still early days for solar. Wal-Mart produces more solar energy today than the entire country did in 1987, when Starship released the hit single,“Nothing’s Gonna Stop Us Now.” I’m not sure what exactly that says about Wal-Mart or the U.S. or 1980s pop music -- apart from showing that the landscape today is positively futuristic by comparison.

Buying solar and selling beer are two very different businesses. But when giants like Wal-Mart and Costco throw their weight into either, you can bet on a cheap buzz. I’ll drink to that.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#46683 May 11, 2014
So, denier boy Roy Spencer takes some arguments away from the most idiotic and ignorant deniers. You listening, Gord?

You guys might want to check out some arguments you shouldn't use anymore, according to the official climatologist for Rush Limbaugh.

http://climatecrocks.com/2014/05/06/spencer-v...
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#46684 May 11, 2014
Can you find the pause hidden in this picture?

http://tamino.wordpress.com/2014/02/25/by-req...
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#46685 May 11, 2014
gcaveman1 wrote:
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Zealot say what?

Meh... still don't care.
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#46687 May 11, 2014
Mothra wrote:
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Zealot say what?
Meh... still don't care.
You still reading those graphs standing on your head, no wonder you have a distorted view on science.
No Warming

Athens, OH

#46688 May 11, 2014
OzRitz wrote:
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You still reading those graphs standing on your head, no wonder you have a distorted view on science.
How much has earth warmed over the last 16 years ? Stand or sit any way you like.

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#46689 May 11, 2014
No Warming wrote:
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How much has earth warmed over the last 16 years ? Stand or sit any way you like.
Ahh one of those cherry pickers looking at flatlines , well check the graph back and look at the up & down swings, then look at the mean line trending always upwards. You may as well ask what was that flat line in the mid 80's or back in the 16 th century. It means nothing in the scheme of things. Thats why if you googled no change all the hits you will get is right wing blogs & denier cheery picked graphs. NOT ONE scientific organisation will put their name to your belief.

If you think we have flatlined, why hasn't the weather patterns flat lined as well. Look at what your President has to say about it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl...
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#46690 May 11, 2014
OzRitz wrote:
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You still reading those graphs standing on your head, no wonder you have a distorted view on science.
Oh look... another post from a global warming hypocrite.

Does anyone care?

Not the warmists... they thrive on hypocrisy.
No Warming

Athens, OH

#46691 May 11, 2014
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
Ahh one of those cherry pickers looking at flatlines , well check the graph back and look at the up & down swings, then look at the mean line trending always upwards. You may as well ask what was that flat line in the mid 80's or back in the 16 th century. It means nothing in the scheme of things. Thats why if you googled no change all the hits you will get is right wing blogs & denier cheery picked graphs. NOT ONE scientific organisation will put their name to your belief.
If you think we have flatlined, why hasn't the weather patterns flat lined as well. Look at what your President has to say about it.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl...
You wont answer that question, how about where is the missing heat ?
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#46692 May 11, 2014
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
Ahh one of those cherry pickers looking at flatlines , well check the graph back and look at the up & down swings, then look at the mean line trending always upwards. You may as well ask what was that flat line in the mid 80's or back in the 16 th century. It means nothing in the scheme of things. Thats why if you googled no change all the hits you will get is right wing blogs & denier cheery picked graphs. NOT ONE scientific organisation will put their name to your belief.
If you think we have flatlined, why hasn't the weather patterns flat lined as well. Look at what your President has to say about it.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl...
You mean Liar of the Year. Yeah... there's a credible source.
No Warming

Athens, OH

#46693 May 11, 2014
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
Ahh one of those cherry pickers looking at flatlines , well check the graph back and look at the up & down swings, then look at the mean line trending always upwards. You may as well ask what was that flat line in the mid 80's or back in the 16 th century. It means nothing in the scheme of things. Thats why if you googled no change all the hits you will get is right wing blogs & denier cheery picked graphs. NOT ONE scientific organisation will put their name to your belief.
If you think we have flatlined, why hasn't the weather patterns flat lined as well. Look at what your President has to say about it.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl...
The missing heat from Kevin Trenberths email

In the Climatic Research Unit email controversy an unlawfully disclosed email from Trenberth about this paper was widely misrepresented: he wrote "The fact is that we can't account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can't."
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That was 5 years ago, still No Warming !
litesong

Everett, WA

#46694 May 11, 2014
"motheaten" muffed:
Zealot say what?
Meh... still don't care.
&,

Zealot say what?
Yeah... who cares?
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litesong wrote:
The continuous words of "motheaten", to its hi skule counsellor,who tried to get it to take science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra & pre-calc for its poorly (or non-) earned hi skule DEE-plooomaa.

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#46695 May 11, 2014
No Warming wrote:
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You wont answer that question, how about where is the missing heat ?
Check the escalator graph on this page, it shows how you look at graphs looking for flatlines between any time period but totally ignore the overall trend upwards.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/graphics.php...
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No Warming

Athens, OH

#46697 May 12, 2014
OzRitz wrote:
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Check the escalator graph on this page, it shows how you look at graphs looking for flatlines between any time period but totally ignore the overall trend upwards.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/graphics.php...
You cant answer simple questions yet I'll give you one more, 97% of climate scientists agree that a doubling of atmospheric CO2 would warm earth. On average by how much ?

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#46698 May 12, 2014
Earth's CO2 atmosphere is the results of 4.5 billion years of progress. It has doubled a dozen times; doubling Earth's CO2 volume is trivial. IF man's CO2 emissions cause climate disruption then we are already mitigating climate against catastrophic global cooling, the well known and observed, natural ice age climate scenario. The only difference between global cooling and man made catastrophic climate disruption is good documentation for natural ice ages but no experimental evidence of either man made global climate change or climate change mitigation.

Since: Mar 09

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#46699 May 12, 2014
Mothra wrote:
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Aww gee... another hypocrite warmist.
But please demonstrate some intellectual honestly and quit calling global warming any sort of crisis.
I know... I know.... you won't adhere to any of the mountainous "science" you keep posting about a crisis. You'll keep posting making yourself a bigger and bigger hypocrite.
No matter to me... I'll enjoy mocking you and the other phony warmists.
Whack...whaack...whaacckkk...j ust keeps bouncing back no matter how hard I whack 'em!

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