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There are 64110 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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Mothra

United States

#38953 Sep 6, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>!. Are you filling your daily paid-post quota with silliness?
2. Again, you are replying to me for another science denier. DUH!
3. This is your babble on this page just a few hours ago:
<quoted text>Your English says "I heer he's getting."
Know thyself and send yourself to school. LOL.
psst... parsing someone else's words doesn't make yours any more coherent.

Quit playing on the internet... adults are talking here.
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#38954 Sep 7, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
psst... parsing someone else's words doesn't make yours any more coherent.
Quit playing on the internet... adults are talking here.
A field guide to Mothra's:

"I am not part of the problem. I am a Republican." J. Danforth Quayle

i.e the ignorance of entitled children.
Mothra

United States

#38955 Sep 7, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
<quoted text>
A field guide to Mothra's:
"I am not part of the problem. I am a Republican." J. Danforth Quayle
i.e the ignorance of entitled children.
So I see... you support SpaceBlues puerile posts.

No surprise.
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#38956 Sep 7, 2013
Mothra wrote:
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So I see... you support SpaceBlues puerile posts.
No surprise.
I speak for myself. And no. That is no surprise. You, on the other hand, have a hand up your butt..
Mothra

United States

#38957 Sep 7, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
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I speak for myself. And no. That is no surprise. You, on the other hand, have a hand up your butt..
Pathetic retort.

Quit taking creative writing tips from SpaceBlues.

btw, got any more of those exposes on how global warming research funds are being spent?

I could use a laugh.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#38958 Sep 7, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>No, water isn't a poison.
.
<quoted text>No, oxygen isn't a poison.
.
<quoted text>In the context of biology, poisons are substances that cause disturbances to organisms,[1] usually by chemical reaction or other activity on the molecular scale, when a sufficient quantity is absorbed by an organism. The fields of medicine (particularly veterinary) and zoology often distinguish a poison from a toxin, and from a venom. Toxins are poisons produced by some biological function in nature, and venoms are usually defined as toxins that are injected by a bite or sting to cause their effect, while other poisons are generally defined as substances absorbed through epithelial linings such as the skin or gut.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poison
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<quoted text>Self disclosure?
Wrong again, Sherlock.

The mechanism of water intoxication is associated with osmotic pressure in cells. At decreasing amounts of salt in the blood, cells adjust by taking up more and more water. Consequently, the cells will swell. If this leads to transport of high amounts of water to the brain it may be extremely harmful. Swollen cells press the nerves, causing someone to experience headache. When cells seal blood vessels, this may cause a lack of oxygen, and someone loses consciousness. The direct cause of death by water intoxication is often brain oedema.

Read more: http://www.lenntech.com/water-intoxication.ht...

Oxygen toxicity is a condition resulting from the harmful effects of breathing molecular oxygen (O
2) at elevated partial pressures. It is also known as oxygen toxicity syndrome, oxygen intoxication, and oxygen poisoning. Historically, the central nervous system condition was called the Paul Bert effect, and the pulmonary condition the Lorrain Smith effect, after the researchers who pioneered its discovery and description in the late 19th century. Severe cases can result in cell damage and death, with effects most often seen in the central nervous system, lungs and eyes. Oxygen toxicity is a concern for underwater divers, those on high concentrations of supplemental oxygen (particularly premature babies), and those undergoing hyperbaric oxygen therapy.

What else ya got, dumbass?
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#38959 Sep 7, 2013
kristy wrote:
<quoted text>
New Zealand snow storm.
September 4, 2013:
HUNDREDS of skiers are stuck on New Zealand's Mt Hutt after freak weather forced its closure.
A combination of drifting snow and poor visibility has been blamed. While ski area management were aware of an approaching front and poor forecast, the situation deteriorated quickly, Mt Hutt ski area manager James McKenzie said.
There are 316 people trapped on the mountain.
"We made a decision to close the mountain at 11.30 this morning and a number of people made it safely down the road," he said.
"However at midday a combination of new snow blowing around everywhere and wind gusts of up to 45km/h, especially around the Saddles, meant visibility along the upper section of the access road deteriorated to the extent we closed the road completely.
http://www.news.com.au/travel/holiday-ideas/h...
How does a late-winter snowstorm on a mile-high peak in the southern half of New Zealand prove that global warming isn't happening?

Only a denier would think so.
Mothra

United States

#38960 Sep 7, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
How does a late-winter snowstorm on a mile-high peak in the southern half of New Zealand prove that global warming isn't happening?
Only a denier would think so.
Apparently picking a post from a string of discussion (ie,'context') is beyond your critical thinking skills.

But of course, any challenge (perceived or real) to your religion is the work of a heretic and must be squashed.

How pitiful you are.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#38961 Sep 7, 2013
Mothra wrote:
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Apparently picking a post from a string of discussion (ie,'context') is beyond your critical thinking skills.
But of course, any challenge (perceived or real) to your religion is the work of a heretic and must be squashed.
How pitiful you are.
Actually, she tried to wedge it into the discussion as evidence. Pitiful as your remark. Even a third-grader knows that climate changes are of the first magnitude while weather changes can be of the second magnitude.
Mothra

United States

#38962 Sep 7, 2013
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, she tried to wedge it into the discussion as evidence. Pitiful as your remark. Even a third-grader knows that climate changes are of the first magnitude while weather changes can be of the second magnitude.
"Wedge" it in? It was supporting evidence.

Sheesh... and you wonder why I don't take you seriously?

And third graders "know" this? Is that what you learned last year?
Mothra

United States

#38963 Sep 7, 2013
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>


Apparently there are some warmists who believe that if you don't buy into the "science" (or religion, for some) of global warming with all your body, heart, mind and soul, you're incapable of having any 'causes' in which to support.

What a load of crap.

I know you're desperate now, but please knock off the sanctimonious bullshyt.
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#38964 Sep 7, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
Apparently there are some warmists who believe that if you don't buy into the "science" ..
Some (like MothEaten) think they should win on 'style' after rejecting the truth and losing on fact and reason. That is TRULY pitiable.
Mothra

United States

#38965 Sep 7, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
<quoted text>
Some (like MothEaten) think they should win on 'style' after rejecting the truth and losing on fact and reason. That is TRULY pitiable.
I have style? Never thought I'd get a compliment from you, but thanks.

Truth? Fact? Reason?

Gee... all I'm doing is applying the same argument standards that warmists use. I 'reason' that if you can meet the same criteria you apply to skeptics, then it should bolster your argument. Shouldn't it?

You're just pissed because by these same standards your arguments fall short.

Tis a shame, t'aint it?

btw, I do take credit for introducing "pity" (and all forms of the word) into the conversation. They say 'imitation is a high form of flattery'. Thanks to all of you.

I blush.
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#38966 Sep 7, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
I have style? Never thought I'd get a compliment from you, but thanks.
*I* never said you have style (other than misreading posts, I guess). What I said is that you want to WIN on 'style', whatever that means to you. You certainly don't try to win on data, reason or science. And your latest whine about losing when you should be winning seems to imply that YOU think you have 'style' or something to win on..

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#38967 Sep 7, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
"Wedge" it in? It was supporting evidence.
Sheesh... and you wonder why I don't take you seriously?
And third graders "know" this? Is that what you learned last year?
"It was supporting evidence." ??? LOL
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#38968 Sep 7, 2013
Ice in Antarctica and Greenland is disappearing faster and may drive sea levels higher than predicted this century, according to leaked United Nations documents.

Greenland’s ice added six times more to sea levels in the decade through 2011 than in the previous 10 years, according to a draft of the UN’s most comprehensive study on climate change. Antarctica had a fivefold increase, and the UN is raising its forecast for how much the two ice sheets will add to Earth’s oceans by 2100.

The changes in the planet’s coldest areas are a “very good indicator” of a warming planet, according to Walt Meier, a research scientist with the U.S. National Aeronautics and Space Administration.

-Bloomberg
4 posts removed
kristy

New Smyrna Beach, FL

#38973 Sep 7, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
How does a late-winter snowstorm on a mile-high peak in the southern half of New Zealand prove that global warming isn't happening?
Only a denier would think so.
Now was that post directed at you? NO! It was directed at ritedownthemiddle who was talking about a friend in NZ who remarked on how cold it was this winter. It had nothing to do with global warming. It’s not like I was posting a hurricane hitting the US during hurricane season and claiming global warming.
kristy

New Smyrna Beach, FL

#38974 Sep 7, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Apparently picking a post from a string of discussion (ie,'context') is beyond your critical thinking skills.
But of course, any challenge (perceived or real) to your religion is the work of a heretic and must be squashed.
How pitiful you are.
They truly do have a problem when they are challenged. I read this the other day:

The report (IPCC AR5) says:“The rate of warming over the past 15 years (from 1998-2012) at 0.05 degree Celsius per decade is smaller than the trend over the longer period 1951-2012 which stands at 0.12 degree Celsius per decade.” This means that in the last 15 years, the rate of warming has been 40% slower than in the period 1951-2012. BUT THE FACTS DO NOT TAKE AWAY FROM THE REALITY OF ANTHROPOGENIC CLIMATE CHANGE.

How Orwellian is that?

Fact: Things that are true or that really happened, rather than things that are imaginary or not true.

Reality: A fact, event, or situation as it really exists.

Talk about these people being delusional…it makes your head spin.
kristy

New Smyrna Beach, FL

#38975 Sep 7, 2013
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, she tried to wedge it into the discussion as evidence. Pitiful as your remark. Even a third-grader knows that climate changes are of the first magnitude while weather changes can be of the second magnitude.
Same response to you as caveman.
kristy

New Smyrna Beach, FL

#38976 Sep 7, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
Ice in Antarctica and Greenland is disappearing faster and may drive sea levels higher than predicted this century, according to leaked United Nations documents.
Greenland’s ice added six times more to sea levels in the decade through 2011 than in the previous 10 years, according to a draft of the UN’s most comprehensive study on climate change. Antarctica had a fivefold increase, and the UN is raising its forecast for how much the two ice sheets will add to Earth’s oceans by 2100.
The changes in the planet’s coldest areas are a “very good indicator” of a warming planet, according to Walt Meier, a research scientist with the U.S. National Aeronautics and Space Administration.
-Bloomberg
Oh lord….that is so 2006. The IPCC is finally catching up to the science of 2006. Now if they could only catch up to the science of 2013.

From your article:

Greenland’s contribution to rising sea levels “very likely” rose to an average of 0.59 millimeters a year from 2002 to 2011, from 0.09 millimeters a year in the prior decade, according to the draft. The rate in Antarctica “likely” rose to 0.4 millimeters a year from 0.08 millimeters, it said.

From 2006:

But, according to Chen and his Texas team, the melting of Greenland's ice cap is already raising global sea levels by six-tenths of a millimeter each year, and the Colorado group estimates that melting of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet alone is adding up to four-tenths of a millimeter of fresh water to sea levels each year. In other words, the global sea level, due to melting of the ice in Greenland and Antarctica combined, is already rising 10 times faster than the IPPC's tentative estimates, the two analyses indicate.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0811-...

From 2013:

New research from a team of European scientists has found there is not enough satellite data to determine the rate of polar ice cap melt very far into the future and warned against using current trends to predict sea level rise that might result from melting glaciers.

“Although ice is lost beyond any doubt, the period is not long enough to state that ice loss is accelerating,” Rack told the Guardian.“This is because of the natural variability of the credit process, snowfall, and the debit process, melting, and iceberg calving, which both control the ice sheet balance.”

http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/11128975...

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