Obama's scary plan to redistribute we...

Obama's scary plan to redistribute wealth

There are 880 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from Oct 17, 2008, titled Obama's scary plan to redistribute wealth. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

Sen. Barack Obama was asked a question the other day by an Ohio man who owns his own plumbing business .

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John

Centreville, VA

#1 Oct 17, 2008
and now that working man is being subjected to facist like attacks from the media and Obama supporters. Just look at the Sun today. Outrageous how an oridinary American who asks a question gets treated like this. We know more about him than we do about Obama.
dcapettini

Bethpage, NY

#2 Oct 17, 2008
This was a setup. If "Joe" could buy the company, how come he owes back taxes to the state of Ohio and why isn't he a licensed Plumber? His excuse about not having a plumber's license is that his employer has one, which wouldn't be the case if he bought the company. I have no use for people who complain about taxes when thay don't pay them.
Rick

Annapolis, MD

#3 Oct 17, 2008
dcapettini wrote:
This was a setup. I have no use for people who complain about taxes when thay don't pay them.
Then my guess is you have no use for nearly half of the American population. the fact is, "Joe" asked a valid question even if he misrepresented his reason for asking. Unfortunately, by focussing on Joe instead of his question we've all lost sight of the fact that Obama's tax plan is bad for small businesses.
Rick

Annapolis, MD

#4 Oct 17, 2008
And here's another thought. Liberals shouldn't be the least bit trobuled by the allegation that Joe might owe some back taxes. Some of our highest ranking elected officials have tried to cheat the taxman. Charlie Rangel sure didn't seem to be too worried about commiting tax fraud while he was drafting his trillion dollar tax grab proposal last year. The hypocracy on the left is nauseating.
YouHelpFixIt

Scottsdale, AZ

#5 Oct 17, 2008
dcapettini wrote:
This was a setup. If "Joe" could buy the company, how come he owes back taxes to the state of Ohio and why isn't he a licensed Plumber? His excuse about not having a plumber's license is that his employer has one, which wouldn't be the case if he bought the company. I have no use for people who complain about taxes when thay don't pay them.
Yea a setup, and what was Joe doing in the neigborhood he lives in just when Sentor Obama made an unscheduled visit?
MDvet

Alexandria, VA

#6 Oct 17, 2008
dcapettini wrote:
This was a setup. If "Joe" could buy the company, how come he owes back taxes to the state of Ohio and why isn't he a licensed Plumber? His excuse about not having a plumber's license is that his employer has one, which wouldn't be the case if he bought the company. I have no use for people who complain about taxes when thay don't pay them.
The question itself was valid. Obama talks about a tax increase for people making more than $250,000. Joe asked Obama to explain it.

It he was back taxes, he is paying some taxes in the first place.
mike- nottingham

Baltimore, MD

#7 Oct 17, 2008
dcapettini wrote:
This was a setup. If "Joe" could buy the company, how come he owes back taxes to the state of Ohio and why isn't he a licensed Plumber? His excuse about not having a plumber's license is that his employer has one, which wouldn't be the case if he bought the company. I have no use for people who complain about taxes when thay don't pay them.
The only person required to have a plumber's license in a plumbing company is the owner who secures the work. Not every plumber working for the owner has to. Same in an electrical company. My son owns one , he has a license but not the three men working for him. For Joe to buy the company at some time in the future he would have to obtain a license. With Obama's tax plan as Tony Soprano would say: Fuget about it! Plus would somebody in the media, O'Reilly, Hannity, somebody ask Joe Biden how many cops and plumbers live in his neighborhood for him to know how much they make.

“Enough Drama”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#8 Oct 17, 2008
Rick wrote:
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Then my guess is you have no use for nearly half of the American population. the fact is, "Joe" asked a valid question even if he misrepresented his reason for asking. Unfortunately, by focussing on Joe instead of his question we've all lost sight of the fact that Obama's tax plan is bad for small businesses.
You reall y don't know if it will bad until you try it! As for the Joe the plumber I feel if he could buy a company worth 250,000 + he should not be worried about taxes! And the statement redestribut the Wealth is a fair one we mean us taxpayers who have paid taxes to the elites, the rich, and those in Washington and on Wall street who have did nothing but had parties and orgies, prostitutes, past president have had their mistresses, pages in the whitehouse being scared to deliver a message for fear of being hit on a war that has done diddley and you still harping about Obama give me a break! If you that scared then put your money in a matress, cause John Q Public has paid for all of this and you said nothing!
John

Baltimore, MD

#9 Oct 17, 2008
At least Obama isn't lying about having to raise taxes. Any politician that says "no new taxes" is lying.
Rick

Annapolis, MD

#10 Oct 17, 2008
dgshiner wrote:
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You reall y don't know if it will bad until you try it! As for the Joe the plumber I feel if he could buy a company worth 250,000 + he should not be worried about taxes! And the statement redestribut the Wealth is a fair one we mean us taxpayers who have paid taxes to the elites, the rich, and those in Washington and on Wall street who have did nothing but had parties and orgies, prostitutes, past president have had their mistresses, pages in the whitehouse being scared to deliver a message for fear of being hit on a war that has done diddley and you still harping about Obama give me a break! If you that scared then put your money in a matress, cause John Q Public has paid for all of this and you said nothing!
Spoken like a true idiot. First, you don't have to wait until an earthquake actually comes in order to know that it's probably going to damage your house. It's called planning - something you're obviously incapable of. As for the moronic statement about someone not needing to worry about taxes if he can afford to buy a company worth $250K, my guess is you've never tried to purchase a home. The fact that you can buy a home (or a business) costing more than $250K doesn't make you rich. Ever heard of a loan? The rest of your comment is simply rambling and incoherent.
Nick

Baltimore, MD

#11 Oct 17, 2008
Hell yeah! SPREAD THE WEALTH...

BURN DOWN Reagan's America!!!
government worker

Gwynn Oak, MD

#12 Oct 17, 2008
John wrote:
At least Obama isn't lying about having to raise taxes. Any politician that says "no new taxes" is lying.
Did I miss something? Obama said he IS NOT GOING TO RAISE TAXES ON 95% OF AMERICANS. You don't think that's a lie? He going to raise it on the 5% of the wealthy and not the 95% of the rest. Now, explain to me how 5% is going to support 95%? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
Nick

Baltimore, MD

#13 Oct 17, 2008
Rick wrote:
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Spoken like a true idiot. First, you don't have to wait until an earthquake actually comes in order to know that it's probably going to damage your house. It's called planning - something you're obviously incapable of. As for the moronic statement about someone not needing to worry about taxes if he can afford to buy a company worth $250K, my guess is you've never tried to purchase a home. The fact that you can buy a home (or a business) costing more than $250K doesn't make you rich. Ever heard of a loan? The rest of your comment is simply rambling and incoherent.
PLANNING! Exactly, PLANNING is the big issue! In every endeavor PLANNING is key. The thing is, in the BS, Republican, free market, supply side world, THERE IS NO PLANNING, it's just a BS free for all and that's why we're in the mess we're in! No planning for health care or jobs or infrastructure or energy or anything, it's jus ANARCHY, just throw the money out to the wealthy and think, IF THEY FEEL LIKE IT , MAYBE they might invest in soimething and solve a problem. It's a grabage system.
Dave

Hyattsville, MD

#14 Oct 17, 2008
Well, I guess being sucessful in America has become a family disgrace. Yes, lets give the 40% who do not work, or pay taxes more of our "sucess" money. After all, we don't want to have a certain group of people mad at us. Maybe Mr. Obama will forgo his Presidential salary (if elected) to help out the 40% who do not work or pay taxes. Don't hold your breath for that to happen. After all, Mr. Obama needs to maintain that million dollar home he was able to purchase based upon his corrupt association with the Chicago crook.
Dave

Hyattsville, MD

#15 Oct 17, 2008
Government Worker ..... sure he won't. What idiotic voters (especially middle class white voters) don't understand. Obama is going to reinstitude the capital gains tax, and other taxes that affect them. But, like I tell my friends .... if he is elected "don't any white middle class person complain to me ever again about minorities receiving everything free." You asked for it with O'Malley and you got just what you deserve.
Obama the Lawyer

South El Monte, CA

#16 Oct 17, 2008
Way-to-go Joe!

Just an average normal guy like Joe exposed Obama's convoluted scheme to take money from people who work for it and give it to people who will waste it anyways. "SPREAD THE WEALTH!"

You see, I can see the attorney at law -- lawyer -- liar in Obama. We all have seen them at work. They manipulate people into believing them. They put murderers and rapists back on the street; they put up smoke and mirrors to confuse the jury. When someone does not play their game -- they impeach them; lawyers discredit them.

Very much like Obama's team has done to Joe. We have all seen them -- The attacks are out there: "He is not licensed to be a plumber. He is a registered Republican. What does he know. His real name is not JOE." I can see Obama's LAWYER TACTICS in this game. He won't say it himself, but he is starting the attacks from behind the scenes. JUST LIKE A LAWYER/LIAR.

I have gone to Obama's site and looked up his tax plans. I have compared them with other candidates. Obama is a fraud. Our family makes less than $100,000 a year and our tax bill will go up.

Have you wondered why people are running to take their money out of the stock market? Take a look at the capital gains increase to be implemented IF Obama becomes president. NO THANKS to Obama the fraud.

Everywhere I look -- ACORN, Ayers, Senate, impeaching THIS AVERAGE guy Joe the Plumber, I see FRAUD.

The Obama Campaign didn't even give it 24 hours their hate-filled attacks were already out there.

So, do I believe half of what he says? NO. If he becomes president, Obama the LAWYER will do whatever he wants.
Rick

Annapolis, MD

#17 Oct 17, 2008
John wrote:
At least Obama isn't lying about having to raise taxes. Any politician that says "no new taxes" is lying.
No, you're right, he's lied about enogh already. We don't need to add to the list.
Linda Indyke

Bowie, MD

#18 Oct 17, 2008
I suppose you're happy with George Bush and Congress re-distributing tax money to AIG, only to see it squandered in a posh resort and extravagant party? How about rescuing the bad loans of Fannie and Freddie? How about the >$8 billion bailout of our failing banks to pick up their mistakes? Haven't had enough yet? How about Sen. McCain's plan to tax your health care benefits for the first time and then giving each citizen $5,000 to buy your own when individual plans can cost >$12,000/year? Does it float your boat to see that Exxon pays $0 in taxes this year? Like having paid $4/gallon of gas a few short weeks ago and seeing your grocery bills rise because of higher transportation costs? Are you happy that because of de-regulation you watched speculators raise the price of barrels of oil, leading to costly price rises at the pump? Given all of this, I am more scared about a McCain presidency than I am of anything an Obama presidency would do.
Linda Indyke

Bowie, MD

#19 Oct 17, 2008
Dave wrote:
Government Worker ..... sure he won't. What idiotic voters (especially middle class white voters) don't understand. Obama is going to reinstitude the capital gains tax, and other taxes that affect them. But, like I tell my friends .... if he is elected "don't any white middle class person complain to me ever again about minorities receiving everything free." You asked for it with O'Malley and you got just what you deserve.
Here we go with the racist comments! Can't you have an intelligent discussion without playing your own racial biases?
Obama the Lawyer

South El Monte, CA

#20 Oct 17, 2008
Linda Indyke wrote:
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Here we go with the racist comments! Can't you have an intelligent discussion without playing your own racial biases?
Not one thing he said in his remark was racist! You are lame! OBAMA is a FRAUD!

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