Republicans Move to Make PATRIOT Act Permanent

Feb 4, 2011 | Posted by: Mr_Bill | Full story: www.infowars.com

Freshly emboldened by their mid-term congressional wins, establishment Republicans are set to extend the unconstitutional police state Patriot Act.

On Thursday, the Senate Judiciary Committee postponed a vote to continue and extend the law. “Having this debate year after year offers little certainty to agents utilizing these provisions to keep the nation safe,” said ranking member Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa.

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“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#1 Feb 4, 2011
Thx Kahoki,

Unfortunately, too many in our government, of both parties, view the outbreak of terrorism as a war rather than a criminal conspiracy.

This phony "war on terror" gives them excuse to support unconstitutional junk like the "Patriot Act" (lke most of GW Bush's initiiatives, it is exactly the opposite as its name would imply.)
to facilely discharge what they think of as their duty to protect us; so they can get back to the real business of permenant government, their real bosses; which is squeezing more money from the American middle income group, nd from the world.

Another case of no clean hands in the Senate.
Another case of Americans sacrificing LIBERTY for SECURITY.

Remember, that Ben Franklin told us "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. "

“Open your eyes”

Since: Sep 09

Central Florida

#2 Feb 4, 2011
This unconstitutional piece of crap legislation needs to be repealed. Not extended with no end date.

The Bush Administration gave us this bill. Obama extended every provision of this bill and now the new republicans are going to extend it further with no end date.

But you people keep arguing D's and R's and see how far that gets you.

“Open your eyes”

Since: Sep 09

Central Florida

#3 Feb 4, 2011
Mr_Bill wrote:
Thx Kahoki,
Unfortunately, too many in our government, of both parties, view the outbreak of terrorism as a war rather than a criminal conspiracy.
This phony "war on terror" gives them excuse to support unconstitutional junk like the "Patriot Act" (lke most of GW Bush's initiiatives, it is exactly the opposite as its name would imply.)
to facilely discharge what they think of as their duty to protect us; so they can get back to the real business of permenant government, their real bosses; which is squeezing more money from the American middle income group, nd from the world.
Another case of no clean hands in the Senate.
Another case of Americans sacrificing LIBERTY for SECURITY.
Remember, that Ben Franklin told us "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. "
Your welcome.

This is very important for those on Topix to know and understand.

Since: Dec 08

Medina, TX

#4 Feb 4, 2011
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Mr_Bill wrote:
Thx Kahoki,
Unfortunately, too many in our government, of both parties, view the outbreak of terrorism as a war rather than a criminal conspiracy.
This phony "war on terror" gives them excuse to support unconstitutional junk like the "Patriot Act" (lke most of GW Bush's initiiatives, it is exactly the opposite as its name would imply.)
to facilely discharge what they think of as their duty to protect us; so they can get back to the real business of permenant government, their real bosses; which is squeezing more money from the American middle income group, nd from the world.
Another case of no clean hands in the Senate.
Another case of Americans sacrificing LIBERTY for SECURITY.
Remember, that Ben Franklin told us "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. "
Didn't Germany and Japan conspire to take over the world? Mr Hitler, Mr Hirohito you have the right to remain silent..........

An outbreak of terrorism??????? Mr Bill, this terror thing isn't like an outbreak of measles. To not consider this a war is ludicrus. These people have sworn to kill us all and are trying to take over control of the world and it is not a war? What will it take for you to realize this? Wake up some morning and find your head sitting atop your TV?

In WW2, hell even during Viet Nam, the government censored our mail. During time of war some drastic measures must be taken and this Patriot Act is one of them. I don't like it anymore than you do, but if it can stop one of you "criminal conspiracy" acts then I am all for it.
Ho Lee Schitt

Pennington, NJ

#5 Feb 4, 2011
Amazing how easily most americans can be convinced to surrender their constitutional rights! Didn't one of the founding fathers say that a nation that sacrifices freedom for security will have neither?

Since: Dec 08

Medina, TX

#6 Feb 4, 2011
Just what rights did we lose with the Pat. Act?

“Open your eyes”

Since: Sep 09

Central Florida

#7 Feb 4, 2011
sailorman2 wrote:
Just what rights did we lose with the Pat. Act?
Here you go:

http://www.nyclu.org/pdfs/eroding_liberty.pdf
Justin

United States

#8 Feb 4, 2011
".. Freshly emboldened by their mid-term congressional wins, establishment Republicans are set to extend the unconstitutional police state Patriot Act .."
Actually it wasn't "establishment Republicans" who gained seats in Congress; it was Tea Party Republicans. This distinction will show when it comes to issues like the Patriot Act.
Getflushed

Fremont, CA

#9 Feb 4, 2011
The Patriot Act does not address the real threats to the American Republic in a modern world where mob rule seems to garner respect amongst people other than the hardened Left. The United States has become enslaved by Leftist Democrats taking over administrative positions at all levels of government nationwide from which they can not be fired for neither their incompetence, nor their perverse increases of fees, taxes and hidden costs.

We need a national police force with rights to summary arrest and incarceration to get us out of a Democrat conspiracy with the bankers that imposes usury people may never escape. We need national protection laws making it illegal to parlay utility companies back and forth to increase pay-offs, profits and rates to support them. We need strict laws punishing American companies and allowing actual arrest of company people selling out American birthrights and shipping jobs overseas.

The only thing that will save America is a Gestapo police force with summary arrest powers. Surely, such could be instituted with protections that any ethnic minority could not be targeted, etc. The only targets should be bureaucrats, communists, public utility profiteers and public, or private insurance fraudsters.

Protect us against terrorists foreign and domestic, yes, but also protect us from the much more impacting threats from the American Left.

Since: Dec 08

Medina, TX

#10 Feb 4, 2011
Kahoki wrote:
If this link is accurate (a spin off of ACLU) I stand corrected.
HeadCheese

Overland Park, KS

#11 Feb 4, 2011
JOB JOBS JOBS...

Besides changing the def of Rape, and now this, has the new repubs offered any plan on jobs?
Justin

United States

#12 Feb 4, 2011
HeadCheese wrote:
JOB JOBS JOBS...
Besides changing the def of Rape, and now this, has the new repubs offered any plan on jobs?
First, it's not the role of Congress to create jobs. I'm not sure at what point in history this expectation gained prevalence amoung many American people, but it's simply not their defined role. I'm sorry if you belong to the "government needs to give me a freakin job" crowd, but you guys lost out in the last election.

What are the Republicans doing to create jobs? They actually are doing a few things.

Repealing mandates for employer provided healthcare. Democrats can press the issue again later, after the econonomy has recovered, and you may actually have better luck with it.

Voting against unemployment insurance extensions. What I mean by this is that many people have been sitting on the fence waiting for the job market to recover, and these folks will finally settle into lower paying jobs, if there is a hard stop on unemployment benefits, thus the total unemployment rate will lower as a result. I know it sucks, but extending unemployment past one year won't help create jobs either.
HeadCheese

Overland Park, KS

#13 Feb 4, 2011
Justin wrote:
<quoted text>
First, it's not the role of Congress to create jobs. I'm not sure at what point in history this expectation gained prevalence amoung many American people, but it's simply not their defined role.
Your wrong.

Congressmen and woman have always been expected to win projects and bring home benefits back to their constituency. Feds building a nuke? Try to get it back in home state to create jobs. etc.

Am I wrong? They are not voted in just to make sure laws on our morality are passed. Its also to bring home the bacon, and thats real life facts.

But Funny how repubs now believe it's the job of the Feds to create jobs when a Dem is in office.

And these repubs ran under the assumption that Jobs and Spending would be focus number 1. I don't see anything on these two priorities.

Instead we see same ole abortion stuff, where they redfined rape to be by force only, and now expanding Patriot act.

Lets see the plan to cut spending, and maybe they should come out and tell their voters, they can't do a think with regards to bring home jobs.
Justin

United States

#14 Feb 4, 2011
HeadCheese wrote:
<quoted text>
Your wrong.
Congressmen and woman have always been expected to win projects and bring home benefits back to their constituency. Feds building a nuke? Try to get it back in home state to create jobs. etc.
Am I wrong? They are not voted in just to make sure laws on our morality are passed. Its also to bring home the bacon, and thats real life facts.
But Funny how repubs now believe it's the job of the Feds to create jobs when a Dem is in office.
And these repubs ran under the assumption that Jobs and Spending would be focus number 1. I don't see anything on these two priorities.
Instead we see same ole abortion stuff, where they redfined rape to be by force only, and now expanding Patriot act.
Lets see the plan to cut spending, and maybe they should come out and tell their voters, they can't do a think with regards to bring home jobs.
It's not the job of Congress to bringing home the bacon, unless the folks who voted them into office overwhelmingly ask them to do it. What the Republicans heard from voters in the last election is to reduce government spending. In any event, bringing bacon home won't help the economy at large recover. At best these type of make work projects will only make a difference in the lives of a handful of people temporarily. Decades of bacon have given America nothing but 12,000 Billion dollars in debt and the worst recession in 60 years. It's old school government; we need to try something else.

“Open your eyes”

Since: Sep 09

Central Florida

#15 Feb 4, 2011
This is the best comparison I have seen regarding the Patriot Act and our natural rights as free people.

Part 1:


Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Part 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

“When the going gets tough”

Since: Mar 09

Stay the (GOLF) Course .FORE!!

#16 Feb 4, 2011
The Grown ups are in charge now!
NUMBER NINE

Middletown, IL

#17 Feb 4, 2011
The Patriot Act cost the G.O.P. the White House.

Enforcing it costs The U.S. its own Constitution.

Includes convenscation by default - Let The Games Begin!

The G.O.P. keeps empowering forieners, corperations and private militcias. These are the building blocks of organized crime.
Not to mention these bonding companies owned by off shore coperations.

What remains is brutal corpal force.
HeadCheese

Overland Park, KS

#18 Feb 4, 2011
That'll save money.

On no wait, this will cost money.
HeadCheese

Overland Park, KS

#19 Feb 4, 2011
anyone ask how's it paid for?

naah. doesn't matter when repubs propose it.

ITS FREE!! Just like the liberating Shia Muslims, cause the oil will pay for it.
HeadCheese

Overland Park, KS

#20 Feb 4, 2011
American_Infidel wrote:
The Grown ups are in charge now!
Grown ups believe you're only raped if it's by force. So date rape drugs, no longer rape.

The grown ups couldn't wait to gain power so they can do what grownups do..control our morality.

What they should do is focus on what they said they would, cutting cost and doing things that bring jobs back to their States.

I can't wait til the Rand Paul types take control repub party.

He doesn't think the Feds should have any say in these type of issues. Just the States.

Shame traditional repubs think it's the job of the Feds to define what we can do with out bodies.

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