Illegal Aliens Get "Free" Health Care...

Illegal Aliens Get "Free" Health Care, While Taxpayer Get Free-Flowing Bills

There are 266 comments on the news.investors.com story from Jan 7, 2012, titled Illegal Aliens Get "Free" Health Care, While Taxpayer Get Free-Flowing Bills. In it, news.investors.com reports that:

An illegal alien just completed 12 surgeries and a record 374-day stay in a Fresno hospital. For him, it was "free" health care. But for taxpayers, the hospital and patients who ultimately pay, it's another big bill.

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“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

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#1 Jan 7, 2012
Why do we keep absorbing the medical costs of illegals? Why can't we send their country of origin the bill? How much more are we expected to do for these moochers? Do they ever say thank you to the taxpayers of this country, who are providing more for them than their countries of origin ever did?? Of course not, they just whine and demand more from us, while we end up with less in our pockets. There has to be a point where we just say, no mas!
The Devil Has Your Soul

Los Angeles, CA

#2 Jan 7, 2012
It's not free, these illegals are still billed. If they don't pay then nobody does.

However, the federal government spends over $600 billion a year in healthcare related expenses to the healthcare community.

As a result, the Federal Gov't mandates that every publicly funded hospital comply with the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act of 1986 (EMTAMA.) Publicly funded hospitals must provide emergency medical services to all patients regardless of their citizenship, legal status, or ability to pay.
Athena

Saint George, UT

#3 Jan 7, 2012
We need to have Obama notify the leaders of all the countries that criticize the USA for NOT having socialized medicine that we will indeed treat their citizens(illegals to us)until they are healthy enough to travel ,then ship them home ,complete with a bill for their care and transportation. That would be "Christian" like,fair and give illegals the same level of medical care Americans have ,help cover costs for legal Americans who cannot afford health insurance and should silence the criticism from countries who"do" provide socialized medicine .The only difference is these countries would pay us for the care of their citizens.

Since: Aug 11

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#4 Jan 7, 2012
is there truely any citizens who want this inorder to take care of illegal aliens. most likely only those who beg off tax payers as well.
Credit Checks

Saint Louis, MO

#5 Jan 7, 2012
One thing about illegals, you really don't know who they are. Therefore the b.s. about sending them bills is nonsense! A citizen on the other hand has a credit history, medical facilities have no problem accessing.
annie

Naperville, IL

#6 Jan 7, 2012
The Devil Has Your Soul wrote:
It's not free, these illegals are still billed. If they don't pay then nobody does.
However, the federal government spends over $600 billion a year in healthcare related expenses to the healthcare community.
As a result, the Federal Gov't mandates that every publicly funded hospital comply with the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act of 1986 (EMTAMA.) Publicly funded hospitals must provide emergency medical services to all patients regardless of their citizenship, legal status, or ability to pay.
Publically funded hospitals = taxpayer funded. No one can be that simple to think no one pays.
annie

Naperville, IL

#7 Jan 7, 2012
Athena wrote:
We need to have Obama notify the leaders of all the countries that criticize the USA for NOT having socialized medicine that we will indeed treat their citizens(illegals to us)until they are healthy enough to travel ,then ship them home ,complete with a bill for their care and transportation. That would be "Christian" like,fair and give illegals the same level of medical care Americans have ,help cover costs for legal Americans who cannot afford health insurance and should silence the criticism from countries who"do" provide socialized medicine .The only difference is these countries would pay us for the care of their citizens.
And how do you think that would be enforced?

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

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#10 Jan 7, 2012
b4its2late wrote:
Let the politicians know how you feel about illegals getting free healthcare at your expense http://www.topix.com/forum/us/illegal-immigra...
Ha, already have done that! I have a congressman who listens and is trying, but he needs reinforcements...those who care about the plight of Americans over that of illegals.
Athena

Saint George, UT

#11 Jan 7, 2012
annie wrote:
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And how do you think that would be enforced?
Actually Annie it is just wishful thinking. It would be fair to us who are paying the bills,but who listens to us. My teenagers listened better than our lawmakers and President,but then my teenagers actually did care about me,the DC crowd does not give a hoot about the taxpaying citizens of the USA.
US Citizen

Mount Vernon, WA

#12 Jan 7, 2012
More proof the federal government is forcing the taxpayers into supporting foreign nationals, especially Mexicans. Who does the government really represent ?

Since: Jun 11

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#13 Jan 7, 2012
Sick or injured illegals should be immediately deported. Let their own country pay for this. Inexcusable how obama forces americans to provide free health care for people that aren't even allowed to be here.
mexi ameri

United States

#14 Jan 7, 2012
How is this any different than a natural born american too messed up on drugs and alcohol with medicaid who spends all their money on electronics, expensive cars, and nice clothes or shoes. I believe illegals are the least of our worries. Plenty of americans get free health care and don't pay the bills. For example the unemployed truck driver who robbed a bank for $1 because he needed back surgery and had no insurance. He went to jail and got the surgery. This is america's fault, not mexicans or illegals. Besides we stole their country and land, they have more ogf a right to be here than most americans

“Assimilate & Speak English!”

Since: Jan 07

Lansing, IL - now: Pomp Bch FL

#15 Jan 7, 2012
The Devil Has Your Soul wrote:
It's not free, these illegals are still billed. If they don't pay then nobody does.
However, the federal government spends over $600 billion a year in healthcare related expenses to the healthcare community.
As a result, the Federal Gov't mandates that every publicly funded hospital comply with the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act of 1986 (EMTAMA.) Publicly funded hospitals must provide emergency medical services to all patients regardless of their citizenship, legal status, or ability to pay.
Are you that naive or that stupid? They aren't billed because they have no identification or social security number (and, being illegal aliens, if they do, the documentation does not belong to them).

What do you mean, "NO ONE PAYS"? Of course SOMEONE pays. The taxpayers pay, and it's B.S. We could take care of our own citizens with the money spent on illegal aliens.

If the illegal alien is STABLE, he/she should be shipped to their country of origin for treatment. Period. Anything less is ridiculous.

“Assimilate & Speak English!”

Since: Jan 07

Lansing, IL - now: Pomp Bch FL

#16 Jan 7, 2012
mexi ameri wrote:
How is this any different than a natural born american too messed up on drugs and alcohol with medicaid who spends all their money on electronics, expensive cars, and nice clothes or shoes. I believe illegals are the least of our worries. Plenty of americans get free health care and don't pay the bills. For example the unemployed truck driver who robbed a bank for $1 because he needed back surgery and had no insurance. He went to jail and got the surgery. This is america's fault, not mexicans or illegals. Besides we stole their country and land, they have more ogf a right to be here than most americans
You are out of your mind. To begin with, we have no choice but to deal with our own homegrown LOSERS. We should not, however, have to deal with illegal aliens -- people who have no right to be here. If we didn't pay for them, we'd have more money to pay for our own homegrown losers, uninsured, whatever. We HAVE to take care of them, when necessary. We shouldn't HAVE to take care of foreign nationals who have no right to be here. We have identification for our homegrown losers. If they purchase property or obtain money in the future, we can attach a lien. Not so with illegals who have no identification.

There we NO land stolen. Read up on history, dumbarse. Treaty of Hidalgo and the Gadsden Purchase. Ever heard of that? We (the U.S.) won the Mexican-American war AND we paid for the land (even though we didn't have to).

Exactly how is that stealing anything? Hmmm??? Please, be specific.

“Assimilate & Speak English!”

Since: Jan 07

Lansing, IL - now: Pomp Bch FL

#17 Jan 7, 2012
http://banderasnews.com/0702/edop-meximerica....

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Of course Mexicans say that the U.S. took (or even "stole") the Southwest! Why wouldn’t they? We’ve got to get over this naïve belief that everybody in the world has the same values, and that everybody wants to be just like us.
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Yep, they sure do have different values -- CRIMINALLY MINDED is what their "values" are called.

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Maybe we should have thought twice about importing millions of people from the only country on earth with an irredentist claim against us - and then encouraging them not to assimilate!
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Maybe? No maybe about it!

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Some try to prove the territory wasn’t conquered. After all, we did pay $15 million dollars for it. True, but that makes it sound like a garden variety real estate deal. Mexico was soundly defeated, and as defeated nations throughout history, had to abide by the terms of defeat. It was a conquest.

And historically there’s nothing unique about that. Just about every country in the world was formed by some type of conquest and just about all the real estate in the world has been conquered and re-conquered, some of it quite a few times. That includes Mexico.

The contemporary conventional Mexican view is that the evil Spaniards conquered Mexico. But when Hernan Cortes arrived in 1519, the present-day country of Mexico did not exist. The Aztec Empire (itself a product of conquest) only covered about a quarter of present-day Mexico. After the Spaniards conquered that empire, they went on conquering numerous other indigenous entities, including the Tarascan Empire, enemy of the Aztec Empire, thus assembling the enormous colony of “Nueva España”, which was renamed Mexico after independence. Furthermore, throughout the history of independent Mexico, the government has repeatedly used force to subdue rebellious tribes and areas and keep them in Mexico. So yes, Mexico was formed by conquest as well.
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So, Mexico was also formed through conquest. Do you see the original owners demanding it back? NO! Why? Because that is not a normal way to think, and besides, who the hell would want it? Mexico wants our country because we did the hard work to make it into what it is today! While they did what with their country? Well, just take a look see...and compare the two countries.

Well, this is interesting:

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Upon independence in 1821, Central America had been part of Mexico, but Mexico lost that territory in the 1820s. Funny, I never hear about a Mexican "reconquista" of Central America.
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So, why don't they want Central America? Likely because it is not as nice as the U.S. They only want the country that has already been made into something great so they don't have to put forth the hard work, effort, blood shed, and loss of life that it takes to make a country into what we have here in the U.S.

“Assimilate & Speak English!”

Since: Jan 07

Lansing, IL - now: Pomp Bch FL

#18 Jan 7, 2012
http://banderasnews.com/0702/edop-meximerica....

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The Republic of Texas was independent from 1836 to 1845, during which time it was diplomatically recognized by the U.S., France, Britain, Holland and Belgium, and Mexico was unable to get it back. After Texas joined the Union in 1845, the dispute erupted again. Both countries sent troops into the disputed territory between the Rio Grande (which Texas said was the border) and the Nueces River (which Mexico said was the border). In April 1846, the two armies clashed in the Thornton Skirmish, followed by several battles in May of 1846, after which President Polk asked for and received a declaration of war from Congress. Three months later the Mexican Congress reciprocated.

Nowadays, of course, the war is seen as the attack of a strong U.S.A. upon a weak and peaceful Mexico. But at the time, both countries were about equally hawkish and ready for war. Mexico had a larger full-time military (27,000 Mexican men under arms vs. a U.S. Army of about 7,000 soldiers - a number which soon swelled when volunteers flocked to join). Nowadays, the idea of conquest is very unPC. But in 1846, neither the U.S. nor Mexico was against the idea of conquest in principle. It’s just that each country wanted to be the conqueror and not the conquered. Mexico’s government planned an invasion of the U.S., predicting that as Mexico invaded, the slaves would revolt and the Mexican flag would fly over the U.S. capitol in Washington. The Mexican government planned to annex parts of the United States, in the Louisiana/Alabama region. What a plan!

But they didn’t have the chance to do all that, because the U.S. Army invaded Mexico first.

When Mexican leaders signed the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo in 1848, they were almost out of money and the country was on the verge of a revolution. American troops had defeated the Mexican army, were occupying strategic parts of the country, and negotiator Nicholas Trist made clear that without a transfer of the territories, there would be no treaty. So the Mexican leaders decided to sign the treaty to avoid greater losses. It was signed on February 2nd, 1848 and ratified by both congresses several months later. The U.S. Army withdrew from all the territory it was occupying except the newly-annexed territories.In the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, the U.S. gained nearly all the Southwest,- all of California, Nevada and Utah, and parts of Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico and Wyoming.(The area south of the Gila River in the present-day states of Arizona and New Mexico, was purchased from Mexico in the Gadsden Treaty of 1853.)So the Southwest is part of the U.S. and has been for over 150 years, longer than most present-day national states have been in existence.
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“Assimilate & Speak English!”

Since: Jan 07

Lansing, IL - now: Pomp Bch FL

#19 Jan 7, 2012
http://banderasnews.com/0702/edop-meximerica....

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Even the Mexican Constitution doesn’t claim the Southwest! That’s right. The Mexican Constitution, in articles 42-48 spells out the extent of Mexican territory. It mentions Mexican islands, continental shelf, and airspace, Mexico’s 31 states and federal district, but it never mentions California, Texas or Arizona. So take that, you reconquistas!

When reflecting upon the Mexican War, some Americans ask why we didn’t just annex the whole country. And there were actually people in favor of that - the "All Mexico" movement. But there were several reasons that didn’t happen. One was America’s North-South divide, especially the congressional balance between free states and slave states, with northerners fearing that Mexico would be divided into slave states and thus upset the balance.But John C. Calhoun and others opposed annexing Mexico for National Question reasons. In 1848, the U.S. population was about 21 million, and the population of Mexico about 7 million, a third of ours. How well could we have assimilated 7 million Mexicans, with all the racial, cultural, social, nationalistic differences that would have been involved? Annexing Mexico would have changed the character of our nation. Ironically, today’s leaders have no such qualms.

Today our leaders apparently see no problem in merging us with Mexico, despite the differences between our societies. They are merging our countries on several levels. At one level is the mass migration of Mexicans into the U.S. coupled with a multicultural ideology which encourages non-assimilation and retention of their Mexican identity. At another level, inter-governmental agreements are moving us closer to some sort of North American Union.I t’s a century and a half after Guadalupe Hidalgo. Who will be the winners in this century? Will it be the U.S.A., Mexico - or a transnational elite, for whom all the residents of our continent are just interchangeable pieces in a vast market? The next few years will give us the answer.
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US Citizen

Mount Vernon, WA

#20 Jan 8, 2012
mexi ameri wrote:
How is this any different than a natural born american too messed up on drugs and alcohol with medicaid who spends all their money on electronics, expensive cars, and nice clothes or shoes. I believe illegals are the least of our worries. Plenty of americans get free health care and don't pay the bills. For example the unemployed truck driver who robbed a bank for $1 because he needed back surgery and had no insurance. He went to jail and got the surgery. This is america's fault, not mexicans or illegals. Besides we stole their country and land, they have more ogf a right to be here than most americans
That is just a crock of bull manure. Foreign nationals should have no right to social services and free health care. Mexicos immigration laws and actions are brutal towards foreigners. Mexicans are hypocrites. Mexicans nationals are parasites and come here to take advantage of us. You decide are you an American or Mexican, you can't be both.
US Citizen

Mount Vernon, WA

#21 Jan 8, 2012
Mexican is NOT a race, it's a nationality.
sterco

Polson, MT

#23 Jan 8, 2012
mexi ameri wrote:
How is this any different than a natural born american too messed up on drugs and alcohol with medicaid who spends all their money on electronics, expensive cars, and nice clothes or shoes. I believe illegals are the least of our worries. Plenty of americans get free health care and don't pay the bills. For example the unemployed truck driver who robbed a bank for $1 because he needed back surgery and had no insurance. He went to jail and got the surgery. This is america's fault, not mexicans or illegals. Besides we stole their country and land, they have more ogf a right to be here than most americans
We didn't steal it we kicked their beaner azzes all the way to Mexihole City for it montezuma!!! IT IS OURS NOW AND YOU AINT GETTING IT BACK BEANER!!! We owe you greaze spots nothing!!!

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