Conservative UT students to stage 'immigrant game'

Nov 18, 2013 Full story: KVUE.com 411

A conservative student group announced Monday they will play a "Catch an Illegal Immigrant Game" this week on the University of Texas at Austin, drawing condemnation from Democrats and a threat of expulsion from campus officials.

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fan

United States

#379 Dec 5, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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Zimmerman was a BS case that should had NEVER gone to court meanwhile this case you didn't hear about. Did it give the race? I missed that in the article. The problem YOU are failing to realize isn't the fact of his conviction. It is the "mandatory minimum sentence" that had to be given. That is the problem, not the fact he was convicted. He could had been sentenced with time served, probation, house arrest or acquitted but Florida's mandatory minimum sentence cost him his freedom, not his race or who was wounded. But just like Trayvon he too could had gone home and this mess would have never happened.
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Jesus Malverde

United States

#380 Dec 5, 2013
Oh jeez, why do I get stuck with the Oldglory types? Having to explain in minute details and then having to connect the dots for them? Why, why?

In the Zimmerman case, as well as this, any or all parties could have walked away and the resulting tragedies could have been avoided. No argument there.

Both in both cases none of the parties chose to. In fact, in the Giles case, the person shot was quoted as saying, he was going to hit the 1st person he encountered (kinda like your knock down game, in a sense). Giles was merely looking for his friends and carrying his weapon under color of his CCW.

In both cases, the shooters were forced into circumstances by their attackers where they had no choice but to discharge their weapons.

Same state, same law, same circumstances, same defense. The only difference was the color of the shooter, the victims, the court, the jury. Connect the dots, for my Fathers sake.

Juan

Vero Beach, FL

#381 Dec 5, 2013
I have some very sad news to pass on to all my friends on topix.

I will not be on topix beginning Monday the 9th. I received word today that my father passed, I have to drive from Vero Beach to Progresso, Mexico for the services. I will be gone for maybe 10-12 days. He was such a good man, he took care of his family and was such a hard worker. He only wanted his children to have a better life. My employees will continue to do minor jobs but will wait until I get back for anything large.

Keep me and my family in your prayers.
Oldglory

Banning, CA

#382 Dec 5, 2013
Jesus Malverde wrote:
Oh jeez, why do I get stuck with the Oldglory types? Having to explain in minute details and then having to connect the dots for them? Why, why?
In the Zimmerman case, as well as this, any or all parties could have walked away and the resulting tragedies could have been avoided. No argument there.
Both in both cases none of the parties chose to. In fact, in the Giles case, the person shot was quoted as saying, he was going to hit the 1st person he encountered (kinda like your knock down game, in a sense). Giles was merely looking for his friends and carrying his weapon under color of his CCW.
In both cases, the shooters were forced into circumstances by their attackers where they had no choice but to discharge their weapons.
Same state, same law, same circumstances, same defense. The only difference was the color of the shooter, the victims, the court, the jury. Connect the dots, for my Fathers sake.
Excuse me! I haven't even commented on the Zimmerman case so why are you bringing me into this conversation?
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#383 Dec 5, 2013
He is just trolling.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#384 Dec 6, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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Tell that to the president, race baiters, media and their followers. All wanted Zimmerman hung and quartered before his trial even when the facts did not meet their narrative. Now we have facts to back up the narrative in this "knock out game" but we have people making excuses in not calling it what it is, a hate crime.
And yet Zimmerman was acquitted.

Just because some may have rushed to judgment in that case doesn't justify doing the same now.

Unless you live by the old adage of "but they did it first"....

Still has to be proven in a court of law.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#385 Dec 6, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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Zimmerman was a BS case that should had NEVER gone to court meanwhile this case you didn't hear about. Did it give the race? I missed that in the article. The problem YOU are failing to realize isn't the fact of his conviction. It is the "mandatory minimum sentence" that had to be given. That is the problem, not the fact he was convicted. He could had been sentenced with time served, probation, house arrest or acquitted but Florida's mandatory minimum sentence cost him his freedom, not his race or who was wounded. But just like Trayvon he too could had gone home and this mess would have never happened.
So you don't think there should be a trial when one person kills another under unknown circumstances? We're just supposed to take the killer's word for it?

Btw, Zimmerman could have gone home as well and it would have never happened either.
Jesus Malverde

United States

#386 Dec 6, 2013
Juan wrote:
I have some very sad news to pass on to all my friends on topix.
I will not be on topix beginning Monday the 9th. I received word today that my father passed, I have to drive from Vero Beach to Progresso, Mexico for the services. I will be gone for maybe 10-12 days. He was such a good man, he took care of his family and was such a hard worker. He only wanted his children to have a better life. My employees will continue to do minor jobs but will wait until I get back for anything large.
Keep me and my family in your prayers.
All our condolences. I'm sure the gates of Heaven will be thrown wide open for him.

“Je suis Charlie”

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#387 Dec 6, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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So you don't think there should be a trial when one person kills another under unknown circumstances? We're just supposed to take the killer's word for it?
Btw, Zimmerman could have gone home as well and it would have never happened either.
You are right we should not rush to judgment. But once a pattern had been formed, we need to call it what it is, a hate crime. BTW, according to Zimmerman, he was leaving the scene when he was ambushed. I wanna-be cop shot a wann-be thug that THOUGHT he was f*g bashing.
Don Joe

Minneapolis, MN

#388 Dec 6, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Who is forced to take a job they can't make a living on?
If you CHOOSE to take a crappy paying job because you don't have the skills or education or motivation to make yourself worth more to an employer, that's your problem- not mine.
Millions of people are forced. You can only take a job from among the choices you receive. If you don't get any choices, you can't choose a better job.

Generally it is considered that wages are a function of supply and demand. If there are lots of companies wanting workers, and there are a limited supply of workers, wages and benefits rise. If there are few or no demand for workers, wages fall and benefits are eliminated.

Now consider the millions of illegals who have been brought into the nation to flood the labor supply. Now consider the great many millions of jobs that our tax dollars went to ship overseas, creating millions more needing jobs. Our industrial base has been destroyed by the government's policies. With over 100 million in either jobs shipped away, or people brought in, there has obviously been a concerted policy by our government to flood the labor pool. That results in way to many people for the remaining jobs. Of course that results in lower and lower wages, with benefits being eliminated across the board.

So you mention education or skills. What would those be??? Engineering?? no, flooded, with many industries going overseas. I personally know hundreds of outstanding engineers with few to no options. Most would change to a better company if there actually was one. Skills?? Drive a truck? only if you can do it for free when gas prices go up. Medical doctor? The right wing is attacking that profession as best they can. Besides they have limited enrollment at universities, to keep the number of doctors low to increase what they can charge.

How about start your own business?? Pretty doubtful, most fail due to lack of funding. I would also suggest that more than that never even get started due to lack of access to capital.

So now it's down to motivation. Approximately half of Americans are not engaged in the labor market. Of those engaged, most are not well off. So I can estimate you are suggesting 200,000,000 Americans are simply not motivated to find a way to obtain food, shelter, have a family or even receive medical care? Do you really expect me to believe this fantasy?
Jesus Malverde

United States

#389 Dec 6, 2013
Good argument, but you leave the influence of (a) the unions,(b) the attitudes of the native workers, and (c) litigious society. All of which have combined to make an atmosphere so burdensome that corporations have no choice but to outsource their labor, be it overseas or to illegal labor.

When unions try to squeeze out the very last nickel out of corporations for themselves and employee wages/benefits, when native workers are convinced they deserve the very best for their mediocre work (ie, the lazy American), and every ambulance chaser dreams of hitting it big by suing doctors, hospitals, pharmaceutical, and plus all the factors you mentioned, then you have a recipe for a collapsed economy. Government is only a bit player.
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Don Joe wrote:
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Millions of people are forced. You can only take a job from among the choices you receive. If you don't get any choices, you can't choose a better job.
Generally it is considered that wages are a function of supply and demand. If there are lots of companies wanting workers, and there are a limited supply of workers, wages and benefits rise. If there are few or no demand for workers, wages fall and benefits are eliminated.
Now consider the millions of illegals who have been brought into the nation to flood the labor supply. Now consider the great many millions of jobs that our tax dollars went to ship overseas, creating millions more needing jobs. Our industrial base has been destroyed by the government's policies. With over 100 million in either jobs shipped away, or people brought in, there has obviously been a concerted policy by our government to flood the labor pool. That results in way to many people for the remaining jobs. Of course that results in lower and lower wages, with benefits being eliminated across the board.
So you mention education or skills. What would those be??? Engineering?? no, flooded, with many industries going overseas. I personally know hundreds of outstanding engineers with few to no options. Most would change to a better company if there actually was one. Skills?? Drive a truck? only if you can do it for free when gas prices go up. Medical doctor? The right wing is attacking that profession as best they can. Besides they have limited enrollment at universities, to keep the number of doctors low to increase what they can charge.
How about start your own business?? Pretty doubtful, most fail due to lack of funding. I would also suggest that more than that never even get started due to lack of access to capital.
So now it's down to motivation. Approximately half of Americans are not engaged in the labor market. Of those engaged, most are not well off. So I can estimate you are suggesting 200,000,000 Americans are simply not motivated to find a way to obtain food, shelter, have a family or even receive medical care? Do you really expect me to believe this fantasy?
Oldglory

Banning, CA

#390 Dec 6, 2013
Jesus Malverde wrote:
Good argument, but you leave the influence of (a) the unions,(b) the attitudes of the native workers, and (c) litigious society. All of which have combined to make an atmosphere so burdensome that corporations have no choice but to outsource their labor, be it overseas or to illegal labor.
When unions try to squeeze out the very last nickel out of corporations for themselves and employee wages/benefits, when native workers are convinced they deserve the very best for their mediocre work (ie, the lazy American), and every ambulance chaser dreams of hitting it big by suing doctors, hospitals, pharmaceutical, and plus all the factors you mentioned, then you have a recipe for a collapsed economy. Government is only a bit player.
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This is just another one of your lying, anti-American posts to defend illegal aliens in our country. Most Americans aren't mediocre workers nor are they lazy but then it is hard to defend the indefensible without the lies and rhetoric, isn't it?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#391 Dec 6, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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You are right we should not rush to judgment. But once a pattern had been formed, we need to call it what it is, a hate crime. BTW, according to Zimmerman, he was leaving the scene when he was ambushed. I wanna-be cop shot a wann-be thug that THOUGHT he was f*g bashing.
And we're supposed to just take the killer's word for it?

Speaking of patterns, remind us all what Zimmerman was arrested for after his most recent run in with the law. Hint- it had something to do with guns and threatening people. Yep, I detect a pattern.

PROVE it's a hate crime, and then we can call it a hate crime.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#392 Dec 6, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
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This is just another one of your lying, anti-American posts to defend illegal aliens in our country. Most Americans aren't mediocre workers nor are they lazy but then it is hard to defend the indefensible without the lies and rhetoric, isn't it?
If they weren't lazy & mediocre, they wouldn't be unemployed or working part time minimum wage jobs.

“Je suis Charlie”

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#393 Dec 6, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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And we're supposed to just take the killer's word for it?
Speaking of patterns, remind us all what Zimmerman was arrested for after his most recent run in with the law. Hint- it had something to do with guns and threatening people. Yep, I detect a pattern.
PROVE it's a hate crime, and then we can call it a hate crime.
EVIDENCE proved the narrative, NOT EMOTIONS. Video EVIDENCES shows a pattern of black kids attacking Jews. Keep making excuses! It doesn't help your cause either!
Zimmerman may be free but his chance at a normal life is gone all because of this BS charge!
Don Joe

Maple Grove, MN

#394 Dec 6, 2013
Jesus Malverde wrote:
Good argument, but you leave the influence of (a) the unions,(b) the attitudes of the native workers, and (c) litigious society. All of which have combined to make an atmosphere so burdensome that corporations have no choice but to outsource their labor, be it overseas or to illegal labor.
When unions try to squeeze out the very last nickel out of corporations for themselves and employee wages/benefits, when native workers are convinced they deserve the very best for their mediocre work (ie, the lazy American), and every ambulance chaser dreams of hitting it big by suing doctors, hospitals, pharmaceutical, and plus all the factors you mentioned, then you have a recipe for a collapsed economy. Government is only a bit player.
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The unions are all but gone in name. If unions were really squeezing out the last nickel, you wouldn't have the rich being richer than in any time in history. The billionaires are getting richer and richer and those in unions are having wages cut and benefits eliminated. How can that be interpreted as squeezing out the last nickel?

Lazy workers? Sorry, I never see them. I don't know where you work, but everyone I know realizes that if they don't work harder than everyone around them, they will be fired, as they watch those who can't work as hard as they do, get fired. To claim that 200 million Americans are just too lazy to be allowed food and shelter is pure fantasy.

As to a litigious society, I find that very rare as well. If you sue your employer, you will be fired, and the judges are mostly corporate owned, so you get nothing, even if the company behaves illegally. The real problem is that people won't even report the illegal behavior.

These arguments are propaganda spewed forth by the rich so they can keep stealing our money. We worked for it. We earned it. Why do they get it and we get the shaft? If the environment were so burdensome, they would not be earning billions of tax free dollars. The rich would not be getting richer and richer and richer.

As to the government being a bit player for an economic collapse, you are correct. The government is owned by the corporations who collapse the economy, so they can buy up the resources for pennies on the dollar, then they restore the economy to sell at fantastically high prices. It's a great scam if you can get it; billions (if not trillions) of dollars in it.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#395 Dec 7, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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EVIDENCE proved the narrative, NOT EMOTIONS. Video EVIDENCES shows a pattern of black kids attacking Jews. Keep making excuses! It doesn't help your cause either!
Zimmerman may be free but his chance at a normal life is gone all because of this BS charge!
But does it indicate they attacked them BECAUSE they were Jewish?

Zimmerman's chance at a normal life is gone because of ZIMMERMAN'S OWN ACTIONS. Who forced him to stalk Martin? Who forced him to beat his wife? Who force him to terrorize his new girlfriend with a gun?

Talk about making excuses!

“Je suis Charlie”

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#396 Dec 7, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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But does it indicate they attacked them BECAUSE they were Jewish?
Zimmerman's chance at a normal life is gone because of ZIMMERMAN'S OWN ACTIONS. Who forced him to stalk Martin? Who forced him to beat his wife? Who force him to terrorize his new girlfriend with a gun?
Talk about making excuses!
Trayvon deserves some of the blame too. Instead of trying to kick a guy's a*s that he thought was a gay rapist, Trayvon could had gone home and called 911, but he choice to f*g bash instead!

Video tapes indicate a pattern of violence against Jews! Stop making excuses!
I have noticed a pattern with you! You make a habit of arguing the past?
roby

Milan, Italy

#397 Dec 7, 2013
in england two years ago ,people who was living illigally for 10 years or more ,they earned automatically citizenship.everywhere in the world people sneak in a country illigally but after a while they get the chance to be ligalized.this thing happen only in usa.dont you people ask yourself why.dont you people think at least once that your politics arent doing their job because they are confortable with the imigration caos.?they are kiding with american people because american people arent against illigal imigrants to be lligalized .american people think about your politics.are they working for you or they dont care about you at all.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#398 Dec 7, 2013
Retired SOF wrote:
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Trayvon deserves some of the blame too. Instead of trying to kick a guy's a*s that he thought was a gay rapist, Trayvon could had gone home and called 911, but he choice to f*g bash instead!
Video tapes indicate a pattern of violence against Jews! Stop making excuses!
I have noticed a pattern with you! You make a habit of arguing the past?
Again, where's the proof they were targeted BECAUSE they were Jewish?

Prove that and you've got yourself a hate crime. Until then, it's just speculation.

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