US feds investigate reported fatal bo...

US feds investigate reported fatal border shooting

There are 47 comments on the WHBF-TV Rock Island story from Sep 6, 2012, titled US feds investigate reported fatal border shooting. In it, WHBF-TV Rock Island reports that:

The FBI and Border Patrol are investigating after the Mexican government said a Mexican citizen was killed when a U.S. agent patrolling the Rio Grande fired his weapon across the border, a Border Patrol spokesman said Thursday.

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Juan

Pearland, TX

#25 Sep 14, 2012
The US Government owes his family a large settlement, they didn't have to kill him.
There was no threat.

Since: Jun 12

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#26 Sep 14, 2012
Ariel love wrote:
Hahaha nah i bet like 30% of the ppl commenting here are mexican american ---dumb ppl dnt noe history very well
I'm old with blond and gray hair. This is my real mame. I saw the vidio and thinking 20 mill. dollars. I would like to know the names of the border patrol agents.
El Cid

Austin, TX

#27 Sep 15, 2012
Juan wrote:
The US Government owes his family a large settlement, they didn't have to kill him.
There was no threat.
Dream on. US Government should send the bill for the bullet to the family. One less dog on the street and a clear case of Social Darwinism.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#28 Sep 15, 2012
El Cid wrote:
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Dream on. US Government should send the bill for the bullet to the family. One less dog on the street and a clear case of Social Darwinism.
I would like to send 3 back. All i need is there names.
Concerned

Chihuahua, Mexico

#29 Sep 15, 2012
Juan wrote:
The US Government owes his family a large settlement, they didn't have to kill him.
There was no threat.
There is a threat. It is coming over the borders daily. It is very dangerous to do the job these agents are doing. If you read the papers in areas that are more densely populated with Hispanics. It is Mexicans killing Mexicans, or other Hispanics. The threat is even coming to Mexican Americans. They deserve the same protection as everyone else. Ironic when a Mexican person kills a Mexican person or Mexican American person not much is said about it. But if that Mexican American border patrol agent is of Mexican heritage, it changes things. If it was a Mexican American that shot him you would not even care or respond. It is just because he has a badge that bothers you. People that complain a lot are usually doing something wrong or are against any type of control. They usually have an agenda.

Have you in one post lashed out against the 72 illegal immigrants that were handed over to the Zeta's for money and then killed. They were in fact handed over to the Zeta's by immigration officers of Mexico. SEVENTY TWO. How much compensation are they getting and where is all the disgust by people who only complain when it is a Mexican killed. Is it that you do not like people that are not Mexican?

In some countries they put you to death for selling drugs. Not a personal physical threat to anyone. I think it should be clear that there have been people killed by border patrol over throwing rocks. However, mind you, if they actually threw the rocks in the first place.

In my mind knowing that, I would stop throwing rocks. No matter what anyone thinks. Throwing rocks at people is not a good thing to do. I cannot even imagine myself or anyone I know throwing rocks. Especially at people with guns. Nor even taunting them. Not very smart!

One of my very good friends here in Mexico moved back to Chihuahua from Denver with his son. A heated discussion broke out, and they threw the guy out that was upset his son was dancing with a girl he wanted. As they left the bar the guy shot him point blank in the chest and he died. Bad actions and even arguing back if you are in the right can get you killed. They have to this day not caught the guy are know who he is.

If you are a border agent trying to stop drug runners there is a good chance you could get killed. Even if you were not trying to do them bodily harm. These guys have a job I would not want to do. You would have to be on high alert all the time. They are in a battle field trying to protect you and the sovereignty of the USA.

Let the final results come out. The USA is very thorough in their investigations.
Concerned

Chihuahua, Mexico

#30 Sep 15, 2012
I saw on National Geographic the the Mexican Human Smugglers brought over a bunch of Chinese people for money. They are known to bring over Muslims with agenda's. It is documented. They do not care about Americans period. This is getting a little ridiculous. Where is the government of the USA in all this.

We never could have imagined 9/11 but the Southern border of the USA is weak and under protected. Just wait until something really bad happens and then people will really wake up. Bring the troops home and secure the borders from the world. Let immigration decide who comes in.

America already lets in more legal immigrants then any country in the world. You need to be able to choose who you want to be in your neighborhood. It is because of these criminals that people are getting killed. If it was not for all the drugs and smuggling and crime coming from across the border this man would probably be alive.

We need to bring back the soldiers from other countries and have them secure the borders before something bigger happens. People need to respect another countries laws just as I do here in Mexico.
Americans passing through into Mexico pay and get permits to go into Mexico. Americans are not trying to get around those points illegally. They obey the countries laws. When I say Americans, I mean all Americans. For those of you that are racists I do not mean just Anglo Americans.

Do not blame all this on just one agent. There are many factors to come into play that made this happen. Drug users on the American side, the victims. The criminals on the other side. The dealers and smugglers!

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#31 Sep 15, 2012
Concerned wrote:
I saw on National Geographic the the Mexican Human Smugglers brought over a bunch of Chinese people for money. They are known to bring over Muslims with agenda's. It is documented. They do not care about Americans period. This is getting a little ridiculous. Where is the government of the USA in all this.
We never could have imagined 9/11 but the Southern border of the USA is weak and under protected. Just wait until something really bad happens and then people will really wake up. Bring the troops home and secure the borders from the world. Let immigration decide who comes in.
America already lets in more legal immigrants then any country in the world. You need to be able to choose who you want to be in your neighborhood. It is because of these criminals that people are getting killed. If it was not for all the drugs and smuggling and crime coming from across the border this man would probably be alive.
We need to bring back the soldiers from other countries and have them secure the borders before something bigger happens. People need to respect another countries laws just as I do here in Mexico.
Americans passing through into Mexico pay and get permits to go into Mexico. Americans are not trying to get around those points illegally. They obey the countries laws. When I say Americans, I mean all Americans. For those of you that are racists I do not mean just Anglo Americans.
Do not blame all this on just one agent. There are many factors to come into play that made this happen. Drug users on the American side, the victims. The criminals on the other side. The dealers and smugglers!
If you see the vidio you'll think different. In my mind they killed a man for NO reason. I drive the border all the time. The border hired a lot of new agents and got a bunch of kids that don't know how to be professional. There just kid with gun and badges. There badge heavey. I would never shoot one but I would have scared them by shooting there boat.
Austinite

Austin, TX

#32 Sep 15, 2012
What happened is called thinning the herd. Good job for the agent, give him another box of bullets and a medal.
Concerned

Chihuahua, Mexico

#33 Sep 15, 2012
Kevin McDermott wrote:
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If you see the vidio you'll think different. In my mind they killed a man for NO reason. I drive the border all the time. The border hired a lot of new agents and got a bunch of kids that don't know how to be professional. There just kid with gun and badges. There badge heavey. I would never shoot one but I would have scared them by shooting there boat.
The guys fighting our wars in other countries are just kids also. It is called on the job training. I have not seen any young border patrol agents that were acting like kids. I am at the border all the time. They actually seem quite professional. I am sure they are educated or they could not pass the test to get the job.

Kevin. It is a war on the border. Here in Mexico too. You should see the young kids here in Mexico riding around in army trucks with heavy weaponry in the streets. I guarantee you that most of these kids have little or no education here. In the video you do not see the guy shoot because he is speeding away. I do not see anyone drop from a gunshot. The middle is left out of the video. The person obviously came running after they heard the gunshot. Let the investigation run its course. No way to tell if they were throwing rocks because that part is over. You just see what you want to see. But I am telling you all you see is the guy scooting out and people yelling. Everything that happened on video was after the guy was shot. Wait for the investigation.
OMG

De Soto, KS

#34 Sep 15, 2012
Concerned wrote:
<quoted text>
The guys fighting our wars in other countries are just kids also. It is called on the job training. I have not seen any young border patrol agents that were acting like kids. I am at the border all the time. They actually seem quite professional. I am sure they are educated or they could not pass the test to get the job.
Kevin. It is a war on the border. Here in Mexico too. You should see the young kids here in Mexico riding around in army trucks with heavy weaponry in the streets. I guarantee you that most of these kids have little or no education here. In the video you do not see the guy shoot because he is speeding away. I do not see anyone drop from a gunshot. The middle is left out of the video. The person obviously came running after they heard the gunshot. Let the investigation run its course. No way to tell if they were throwing rocks because that part is over. You just see what you want to see. But I am telling you all you see is the guy scooting out and people yelling. Everything that happened on video was after the guy was shot. Wait for the investigation.
Amen!
Juan

Pearland, TX

#35 Sep 15, 2012
The investigation will show an innocent man died at the hands of a border patrol agent.

“Land of Entrapment”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#36 Sep 15, 2012
Whereas 25 INNOcent Amerians die every day due to illegals. Mostly Mexican Nationals. Sometimes a Honduran or El Salvadoran is thrown in the illegal mix of Drunks, Rapists, Murderers, and your basic scum Criminal minded individual.Mostly Mexicans fill up our Prisons. We take care of the unwanted from the South. Regardless of our own desires Not to.
ronnie

Hurricane, UT

#37 Sep 16, 2012
Concerned wrote:
I saw on National Geographic the the Mexican Human Smugglers brought over a bunch of Chinese people for money. They are known to bring over Muslims with agenda's. It is documented. They do not care about Americans period. This is getting a little ridiculous. Where is the government of the USA in all this.
We never could have imagined 9/11 but the Southern border of the USA is weak and under protected. Just wait until something really bad happens and then people will really wake up. Bring the troops home and secure the borders from the world. Let immigration decide who comes in.
America already lets in more legal immigrants then any country in the world. You need to be able to choose who you want to be in your neighborhood. It is because of these criminals that people are getting killed. If it was not for all the drugs and smuggling and crime coming from across the border this man would probably be alive.
We need to bring back the soldiers from other countries and have them secure the borders before something bigger happens. People need to respect another countries laws just as I do here in Mexico.
Americans passing through into Mexico pay and get permits to go into Mexico. Americans are not trying to get around those points illegally. They obey the countries laws. When I say Americans, I mean all Americans. For those of you that are racists I do not mean just Anglo Americans.
Do not blame all this on just one agent. There are many factors to come into play that made this happen. Drug users on the American side, the victims. The criminals on the other side. The dealers and smugglers!
I absolutely agree. This Country Not paying attention. It's not the border hoppers, it's the ideology of people coming here that bother's me. Killing and crime has desensitized Mexicans, and other 3rd. World Countries. Our military needs to be involved in any immigration process at the border. Our sovereignty is truly at risk. Our Leaders in States and the Federal Government, are not taking seriously the threats. It will rear it's ugly head and when it does, it may be way to late for America. Wake up people.
Juan

Pearland, TX

#38 Sep 18, 2012
Nijoni wrote:
Whereas 25 INNOcent Amerians die every day due to illegals. Mostly Mexican Nationals. Sometimes a Honduran or El Salvadoran is thrown in the illegal mix of Drunks, Rapists, Murderers, and your basic scum Criminal minded individual.Mostly Mexicans fill up our Prisons. We take care of the unwanted from the South. Regardless of our own desires Not to.
Nijoni......or Chief Scratch Ya Balls.......sounds like you picked that number out of your butt.

No more fire water for you.

“Land of Entrapment”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#39 Sep 18, 2012
Rico wrote:
<quoted text>
Nijoni......or Chief Scratch Ya Balls.......sounds like you picked that number out of your butt.
No more fire water for you.
Put your pipe down then Parasite. And leave your balls alone. You are the only one that thinks they have any merit. All you got to go on is your Racism. SO jealous of the Indeginous it eats You UP! Hundreds of postings, yet you can deny till your Hell freezes over. Chief FOS Tick. Taking all you can, giving not a damn thing but your Racist insults. Low life breeder for the USD.
www.usillegalaliens.com
Your butt is exactly where your info comes from litte Vampire.
You can't post evidence because the EVidence is against you. LOL Tool!

“Land of Entrapment”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#40 Sep 18, 2012

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#41 Sep 24, 2012
Concerned wrote:
<quoted text>
The guys fighting our wars in other countries are just kids also. It is called on the job training. I have not seen any young border patrol agents that were acting like kids. I am at the border all the time. They actually seem quite professional. I am sure they are educated or they could not pass the test to get the job.
Kevin. It is a war on the border. Here in Mexico too. You should see the young kids here in Mexico riding around in army trucks with heavy weaponry in the streets. I guarantee you that most of these kids have little or no education here. In the video you do not see the guy shoot because he is speeding away. I do not see anyone drop from a gunshot. The middle is left out of the video. The person obviously came running after they heard the gunshot. Let the investigation run its course. No way to tell if they were throwing rocks because that part is over. You just see what you want to see. But I am telling you all you see is the guy scooting out and people yelling. Everything that happened on video was after the guy was shot. Wait for the investigation.
I'm ex-sworn. I drive the border at least once a month in Arizona. I have seen these kids in action (Border patrol) I have had a conversation with a higher up in border patrol who said they need to get rid of 30% if all there new hires.
Some ofthese kids need to go. theycanNOT use grater force. They think that badgegives them power that exempts them from the rules. You need to see the video!!!!
Concerned

Chihuahua, Mexico

#42 Sep 25, 2012
Kevin McDermott wrote:
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I'm ex-sworn. I drive the border at least once a month in Arizona. I have seen these kids in action (Border patrol) I have had a conversation with a higher up in border patrol who said they need to get rid of 30% if all there new hires.
Some ofthese kids need to go. theycanNOT use grater force. They think that badgegives them power that exempts them from the rules. You need to see the video!!!!
Need to bring in the military then to patrol the border. Same problems as from what I see happening overseas. Young men. You are not going to get a lot of older more mature men taking some of these jobs where they have to go into the deserts, hike and take down criminals crossing the border. This is a young mans job. They move up in the ranks later and move into office jobs and what not, or find better jobs. Safer jobs albeit.

There were 4 young black American soldiers that were arrested in Texas. they were setting up to work with the cartels for hits on people in the USA. In these lines of work you are not going to find %100 mature adults that are willing to face these extreme conditions and have the physical ability to do this kind of work. Men in the army and police are causing problems. They are even better trained and disciplined. I know in El Paso, Texas, people have blogged about all of the problems and criminality that the military has brought there.

I thought I read somewhere they were having a problem finding people to fill these jobs. So we just walk away from the border.

Another thought. If the people would respect the laws of the USA and not come illegally, cross drugs, and smuggle humans for prostitution and many other things then the tax payers would not have to spend their hard earned tax money on extra agents, and everything else that is associated with these criminal activities.

People would not be getting shot at all. There is a reason these things are happening. It is because of everything that is coming North of the border illegally. So lets put the blame where it belongs. You are never going to stop things like this from happening. You could call it casualties of war. Because even in war people are killed by friendly fire, and there are people there that that should not be.

I watch cops and you hear the police say as the program starts. I love this job. It is exciting and I get to take down bad guys. I get to try and make a difference. No control mindset there? There are bad cops in the USA also that do bad things and they are better trained. So what do you do, fire them all. Where are you going to find people with this mentality. I know I would rather be doing something else then arresting people and carrying around a gun and chasing people, and shouting and screaming.

So it is not just Mexico that feels these problems, it is also US citizens. But I guess it comes with the territory. So Americans need to quit committing crimes as well as Mexicans. Because you might get shot. So in your analysis I might thing twice about crossing the border, throwing rocks or even taunting someone with a gun.

Why would Mexico have it any different then any other country? They need to keep there crime at home. Believe me they worry more about the police here then border patrol agents from the USA. Even the bad apples are saints compared to many of the police and military here. They can do what ever they want to you, and they do bad things a lot. So next time someone crosses onto USA soil and kills US citizens that are here illegally, maybe that is where you should put your concerns. Twenty five people are killed per day because of criminal trespassers. How many people are shot in a year by border patrol? How many are killed and robbed in Mexico at the Southern border by immigration agents. I know of 72 that were sold to the Zetas by Mexican immigration and then killed.

Do not throw rocks. Do not taunt. Do not try to cross the border illegally. Problem solved!
Concerned

Chihuahua, Mexico

#43 Sep 25, 2012
http://www.elpasotimes.com/news/ci_21622839/3...

Look at this article and the pictures of these devils. This is not the America I grew up in a young man. It is being imported into America.
The Asian gangs, Haitian gangs, Russian mafia, Cuban gangs, Mexican gangs and more. They are coming here for the easy pickings and they have laws to protect them.
These on top of the ruthless biker gangs, KKK, skinheads and other hate groups. All American bred, formed and raised.
America has enough problems without more of this crime crossing the borders from other countries and coming to our communities.
sba131

United States

#44 Sep 25, 2012
Juan wrote:
The Border Patrol could have fired over his head, they didn't have to kill him.
I think the US owes his family an apology and some type of settlement.
I Don't care. just another dead criminal.

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