Pros and cons of immigration reform

Pros and cons of immigration reform

There are 33 comments on the The Kaleidoscope story from Nov 13, 2012, titled Pros and cons of immigration reform. In it, The Kaleidoscope reports that:

The Immigration Debate featured three prominent speakers at the Spencer Honors House who collectively debated the pros and cons of immigration reform this past Thursday, November 8, 2012.

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Spike

New York, NY

#1 Nov 13, 2012
Immigration Reform solves nothing. There is no naturalization process.

What we need is to make English the official language, re clarify the 14th amendment & stop anchor babies from being automatic citizens.

We need mandate E verify for every business that wants to do business in this country & end sanctuary cities.

Thats real reform.
ronnie

Washington, UT

#2 Nov 13, 2012
I guess I'm naive to the extreme. I never realized until I started reading these forums how insane the immigration process is. Why the hell does America and States spend so much money and valuable resources on threat's made by a minority illegal population in this Country. DAH... It's unbelievable the gut's the illegals have, too believe their issues should be first first and foremost in the National spotlight, cause so much controversy, create such division and confusion. We have Federal immigration laws that simply MUST be enforced. States are getting in debt so badly they decide to protect their legal citizens, and in rolls the Mexican attorney or La Ratza's leaders to cause more useless debate, all intended to protect lawbreakers.... it's complete BS.
SUWANNEE

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#3 Nov 13, 2012
Cons: Rewarding criminals. Over-population. Depleting welfare coffers.
Pros: None.

NO BRAINER!

“BetchaMyGollyWow”

Since: Nov 12

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#4 Nov 13, 2012
ronnie wrote:
I guess I'm naive to the extreme. I never realized until I started reading these forums how insane the immigration process is. Why the hell does America and States spend so much money and valuable resources on threat's made by a minority illegal population in this Country. DAH... It's unbelievable the gut's the illegals have, too believe their issues should be first first and foremost in the National spotlight, cause so much controversy, create such division and confusion. We have Federal immigration laws that simply MUST be enforced. States are getting in debt so badly they decide to protect their legal citizens, and in rolls the Mexican attorney or La Ratza's leaders to cause more useless debate, all intended to protect lawbreakers.... it's complete BS.
Ronnie, I understand what you are saying and it "IS" insane. But, one thing I do know is that their cost is unsustainable and eventually they will get theirs. They will end up with hardly any financial assistance, the Gov. is at the verge of making cuts,,,,just look at Ohio. It was announced yesterday that the food-stamps will be slashed for the Ohioans. This will happen to the illegals and their ignorant enablers( it's just a matter of time).Illegals will end up in their little Ghettos/gang-banging/drug infested,high drop-out rate and high birth rate(just like the Blk communities) with no one to blame but their greedy selves and their dependency on the Government teat. The Democratic Party needed at one point a steady /faithful voter base and used the blk community for such, now they are after the Illegal/ignorant Hispanic votes for the same thing(votes)/purpose. This is sad but true. Their best bet would of been to stay in their own country and fight their Government to better their situation,but they chose to come into a sovereign country and take by force what is/never was theirs for the taking. This whole immigration issue will be bad for us , but worse for them. The gravy train is about to dry up; It's just a matter of time. They are too ignorant and greedy to see what really is ahead. So let's just sit back, do the best we can to get by,and watch this immigration issue take it's course and unfold(backfire). Just remember one thing if nothing else,,,,, Never give up. The only one's I feel for are the AA,,, because they are Americans, they belong here. But as far as Illegals go,,,, I could care less.
Magadala

Cinebar, WA

#5 Nov 13, 2012
ronnie wrote:
I guess I'm naive to the extreme. I never realized until I started reading these forums how insane the immigration process is. Why the hell does America and States spend so much money and valuable resources on threat's made by a minority illegal population in this Country. DAH... It's unbelievable the gut's the illegals have, too believe their issues should be first first and foremost in the National spotlight, cause so much controversy, create such division and confusion. We have Federal immigration laws that simply MUST be enforced. States are getting in debt so badly they decide to protect their legal citizens, and in rolls the Mexican attorney or La Ratza's leaders to cause more useless debate, all intended to protect lawbreakers.... it's complete BS.
Yes, they are holding our government hostage. Our leaders are so obsessed with keeping their jobs year after year, that they ignore the American citizen in order to placate a special interest group in hopes for votes!!! They are re organizing America's priorities to accommodate illegal aliens...I am not making this stuff up!
And the bottom line is that we owe them nothing!!!!

“BetchaMyGollyWow”

Since: Nov 12

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#6 Nov 13, 2012
Even though Amnesty is being proposed, there are many , many organizations out there that are continuing to bring this madness to to an end. No matter what happens ,Americans can not/will not support these people as they've/we have been doing

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#7 Nov 14, 2012
We already have a system in place. Why should we change because some of them don't want to follow the rules?
dognes

Masontown, PA

#8 Nov 26, 2012
youtube.com/watch...
PRO: "...deporting aliens is as easy as one, two, three. The next time you hear [U.S. President] George W. Bush or [U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security] Michael Chertoff say how impossible immigration enforcement is, remember this simple formula: one, go to where you know aliens are; two, arrest them; three, deport them. Don’t bother asking where aliens hang out. The better question is where aren’t they hanging out. Go to a bus stop, a taco truck, a convenience store, the post office or an auto repair shop. No need to round them all up at once. Just arrest one or two every day at different locations around town and the message will soon get out."
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CON: "It is deplorable to go ahead with this decision of the wall at the border...The wall will not solve any problem. Humanity made a huge mistake by building the Berlin Wall and I believe that today the United States is committing a grave error in building the wall on our border. It is much more useful to solve common problems and foster prosperity in both countries."
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I support Deportation
Judith

Spotsylvania, VA

#9 Jan 23, 2013
wow some of you people can be so harsh you have no idea the hardships immigrants go through you think that you're so high and mighty just because you have your documents but newsflash everyone in this country is an immigrant your ancestors I'm sure weren't born here they came from another country so stop saying shit about immigrants about how they well end up back in their ghettos and shit because you have no idea what the hell you're talking about

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

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#10 Jan 24, 2013
Judith wrote:
wow some of you people can be so harsh you have no idea the hardships immigrants go through you think that you're so high and mighty just because you have your documents but newsflash everyone in this country is an immigrant your ancestors I'm sure weren't born here they came from another country so stop saying shit about immigrants about how they well end up back in their ghettos and shit because you have no idea what the hell you're talking about
Whatever their hardshiips may be is not at issue, what is at issue is that they broke a law to be here, and then continue to break more to get their job and to get to that job.
SUWANNEE

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#11 Jan 24, 2013
Judith wrote:
wow some of you people can be so harsh you have no idea the hardships immigrants go through you think that you're so high and mighty just because you have your documents but newsflash everyone in this country is an immigrant your ancestors I'm sure weren't born here they came from another country so stop saying shit about immigrants about how they well end up back in their ghettos and shit because you have no idea what the hell you're talking about
Let the immigrants (illegal) go thru hardships back home while trying to better their own country. It's getting tiresome listening to you morons bringing up "we were all immigrants". Don't dwell on the past dimwit. This is a country with laws......you don't like laws? Immigrate to Mexico!
Serrano Red

United States

#12 Mar 3, 2013
It is afelony to cross into another country.Put those bastards in prison

Since: Aug 11

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#13 Mar 3, 2013
Serrano Red wrote:
It is afelony to cross into another country.Put those bastards in prison
it is not a felony for them to cross it is a federal felony for anyone to help them stay here,so the law passes the major crime onto citizens once again. now after they are here and work using fraud papers and id theft is when the felonies start coming in,yet once again our laws are not too often enforced on that either.

even when coming here legal our laws and rules that apply to those folks are not enforced either,we are not to let anyone come who will be a public charge yet we do it anyway bringing folks in and placing them right on the dole.

reform would be using all the laws we have on immigration without excuses.
Serrano Red

United States

#14 Mar 3, 2013
tomin cali wrote:
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it is not a felony for them to cross it is a federal felony for anyone to help them stay here,so the law passes the major crime onto citizens once again. now after they are here and work using fraud papers and id theft is when the felonies start coming in,yet once again our laws are not too often enforced on that either.
even when coming here legal our laws and rules that apply to those folks are not enforced either,we are not to let anyone come who will be a public charge yet we do it anyway bringing folks in and placing them right on the dole.
reform would be using all the laws we have on immigration without excuses.
I work in an area that has a lot of oil field jobs The population is about 70-80 % Hispanic. Most of which is illegal. They are putting a big drain on the hospital

Since: Aug 11

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#15 Mar 3, 2013
Serrano Red wrote:
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I work in an area that has a lot of oil field jobs The population is about 70-80 % Hispanic. Most of which is illegal. They are putting a big drain on the hospital
i am in ca,those folks put a drain on all things.

darn shame about the oil companies going so low as to hire illegal aliens. they have close a few hospitals in my town already,they just flood to the next and will cause more to close.

i know what you mean. i have been fighting against this thing since the 80s,never give up.
Tylung

Pocatello, ID

#16 Mar 7, 2013
I dont agree with this freaking thing I just slapped a fish
harry

Pocatello, ID

#17 Mar 7, 2013
i don't agree wuth this at all. k peace buy bye

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

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#18 Mar 8, 2013
tomin cali wrote:
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i am in ca,those folks put a drain on all things.
darn shame about the oil companies going so low as to hire illegal aliens. they have close a few hospitals in my town already,they just flood to the next and will cause more to close.
i know what you mean. i have been fighting against this thing since the 80s,never give up.
I was in CA recently, and while watching the news, they claimed that CA is shwing a surplus. Is that in fact the truth? I was a little suprosed by that comment.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

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#19 Mar 8, 2013
s/b: showing
Less Government

Miami Beach, FL

#20 Mar 8, 2013
The only reason why immigration has become Obama's pet project is because his BROTHER who was living in NH and is an illegal from Kenya was going to trial for deportation.
His is now living in the WH at the tax payers expense awaiting new policies to pass in congress on deportation.
Google
Obama's brother in NH is an illegal alien

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