Big rise in illegal immigrants in Sou...

Big rise in illegal immigrants in Southeast

There are 493 comments on the MSNBC story from Feb 23, 2010, titled Big rise in illegal immigrants in Southeast. In it, MSNBC reports that:

When the Olympic Games came to Atlanta in 1996, a building boom transformed the landscape of downtown and brought with it an influx of Latino immigrants a ' both legal and illegal.

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Paper Pusher

Los Angeles, CA

#43 Feb 24, 2010
Send us your undocumented so we can document them.
Jigsaw

Myrtle Beach, SC

#44 Feb 24, 2010
Rico from East Los II wrote:
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The Southeast is a rat hole to begin with.
So that's why they're coming here. Feels and looks just like home.

“THE RUMBLE WILL BECOME A ROAR”

Since: Dec 06

United States of America

#45 Feb 24, 2010
TruthAngel wrote:
There is No conspiracy against the white race. The problem is unfettered greed and lust for riches and power that the white race has always had - at least for the past six centuries. The cheap labor of nonwhites (particularly blacks) is the reason for the tremendous wealth of the white race.
I'm white, I'm not a supremist, I'm not wealthy, I live on the Social Security check from the system that I worked and paid into for over 50 years. The government picks my pockets just as deep as anyone else, it's just that mine are not all that deep. Where the heck is my wealth?

Since: Dec 08

Western Chicago suburbs

#47 Feb 24, 2010
I guess we're not our grandparents. But we don't live in their world either. Even the Great Depression was just part of the business cycle at bottom. Globalizing the labor market is structural. It means that only people in low-wage countries (or who bring their low-wage country with them, like the Mexicans) will do wage labor. Those of us in the formerly industrialized countries will be financiers or lucky to be flunkies. It's really just a return to the nineteenth century way of doing things. WW II and the postwar prosperity fooled a lot of people into thinking that things had changed permanently. But it was just a temporary blip.
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>Turned them into the Chinese? Could be. It sees like we're all playing in the same band. The real problem I have with that is that Americans have worked their azzes off to build a stronger economy and better standard of living than most of the rest of the world. It sure as hell wasn't handed to them. We have the most productive workforce in the world.
I have a photo (redo of a very old shot) of my great-grandparents standing in front of their mule. Lucinda is sporting a dirty apron with hair pulled up in a bun. He is wearing bib overalls, a dusty wide brimmed hat, and there is no fooling anybody. These two have spent their adult lives working like dogs. I thank them. I don't think they would fathom what is happening now. Nor would my grandfather who often shared with us what life was like during the Depression. He would walk across the county day after day looking for work. When he failed, he would stop by a huge tree near the river and sit down and cry before walking on home, to arrive before the moon rose. He didn't want my grandmother or father to know how frightened and discouraged he was. All of his savings were lost, although he had lived frugally and had carefully put his savings in banks in several states - all went under. They made it, but he was never financially successful thereafter. Still, he saved change in a jar for the rest of his life. He was a good man who wanted more for us than had been his lot in life.
I would be content to maintain our standards. Even that seems out of reach.
Yet, it is being snatched from them by Capitalism without restraint. When will we get sick and tired enough to DO something? I think I'll have a better sense of it with the mid-term elections. Either we're going to start rolling them out of office (regardless of their party affiliation) or we're going to keep sinking into deeper doo doo.

“Try Reuters.”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#48 Feb 24, 2010
NON COMPLACENT TWINK wrote:
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I'm white, I'm not a supremist, I'm not wealthy, I live on the Social Security check from the system that I worked and paid into for over 50 years. The government picks my pockets just as deep as anyone else, it's just that mine are not all that deep. Where the heck is my wealth?
Twink, step outside the box for a minute. It's real that in the West, wealth has been concentrated in the hands of men whose skin is white. And, it is also true that black men and women were used by those men. That is not something I own, nor do you. But, if you are a black American, no matter how successful, you have not lived life without learning about the tragedies and triumphs of your family's struggles - most especially in America. For many black Americans, history begins here in America (since most cannot trace their genealogy beyond these shores) and starts with ancestors who were enslaved to white men.

I don't live in any misplaced guilt, neither, I am certain, do you nor should you. But, the mere mention of facts isn't something to avoid either. He made a point, and the elites who are fueling the decimation of "middle-class" America are, in fact, largely white men. They certainly don't care what happens to us simply because we share the same skin color, and anybody who thinks they will be protected on that basis need only look at what the President HASN'T done to assist black Americans in need. JMO

“THE RUMBLE WILL BECOME A ROAR”

Since: Dec 06

United States of America

#49 Feb 24, 2010
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>Twink, step outside the box for a minute. It's real that in the West, wealth has been concentrated in the hands of men whose skin is white. And, it is also true that black men and women were used by those men. That is not something I own, nor do you. But, if you are a black American, no matter how successful, you have not lived life without learning about the tragedies and triumphs of your family's struggles - most especially in America. For many black Americans, history begins here in America (since most cannot trace their genealogy beyond these shores) and starts with ancestors who were enslaved to white men.
I don't live in any misplaced guilt, neither, I am certain, do you nor should you. But, the mere mention of facts isn't something to avoid either. He made a point, and the elites who are fueling the decimation of "middle-class" America are, in fact, largely white men. They certainly don't care what happens to us simply because we share the same skin color, and anybody who thinks they will be protected on that basis need only look at what the President HASN'T done to assist black Americans in need. JMO
I was being facetious with my statement, maybe I should have put a smiley face there. I have never been wealthy but I do know that it is whites who have most of the big money. I also know that no matter how high a black person may climb in the corporate world, there will still be those who will look down their nose at them just as they look down their nose's at poor whites. I believe in allowing a person the respect they earn and skin color should not be a consideration in the equation.
Mrs_M

Phoenix, AZ

#50 Feb 24, 2010
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>Either you are very highly paid in your profession, or your husband is doing a job and American needs. He's only one. There are probably 20 million more where he came from at a time when tens of millions of Americans are desperately seeking employment as their unemployment benefits run out.
Not that my profession or my husband's is any of your business, but my husband works in a junk yard. And that's more information than I needed to share, but I already made that statement above.
Mrs_M

Phoenix, AZ

#51 Feb 24, 2010
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>I'm having a difficult time comprehending just how much the two of you could be paying in taxes. Sounds like HIS job qualifies for the bogus SS#/valid ITIN tax refund which costs U.S. taxpayers $175.00 each to even process and refund versus $.75 each for citizen taxpayer returns.
Now, are you wanting us to believe that you are a highly paid professional who married a man who works in a junkyard? Difficult to bite on that one, missy. But, thanks for trying.
He is Illegal, but his STATUS is pending. He has a Visa. So he can work. Our taxes are very high. Do you want me to spell anything else out for you???

“Try Reuters.”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#53 Feb 24, 2010
Mrs_M wrote:
<quoted text>
He is Illegal, but his STATUS is pending. He has a Visa. So he can work. Our taxes are very high. Do you want me to spell anything else out for you???
Actually, no I don't. Have a nice evening.
John S

Seattle, WA

#55 Feb 24, 2010
Rico from East Los II wrote:
<quoted text>
The Southeast is a rat hole to begin with.
You mean MEXICO----

FRITA--how many names do you use on these forums?
Mrs_M

Phoenix, AZ

#56 Feb 24, 2010
Oh and btw, I'm a RN.:) Good evening!
Poison Ivy

United States

#57 Feb 24, 2010
Mrs_M wrote:
Oh and btw, I'm a RN.:) Good evening!
That doesn't place the two of you in a high tax bracket. Au contraire. It's a very fine and noble career, a difficult job for many, and I appreciate what you do. I recently lost a friend to cancer who was the head nurse in the CCIU at UK. She was much beloved.

That said, you can get a job anywhere, and if things don't work out, you'd undoubtedly be in demand in Mexico. If he is here on a legal visa, then he isn't illegal. So, which is it? Is he illegal or legally here?

I just don't support any IR that affords anybody here illegally a pathway to citizenship. It would cost U.S. taxpayers in the high HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS (some say TRILLIONS) long term and permanently negatively impact wages and benefits. Just as importantly, I sincerely believe it will result in full blown socialism or oligarchy in America and a permanently decline in our standard of living, even post recession. It would encourage others to follow the same path.

I deeply appreciate the opportunities I've had by being born in America, and I genuinely believe it is our duty to preserve those opportunities for our children. As I stated, and I meant, I don't fault you for who you love at all. I just cannot support amnesty for those who stand to transform this nation as we have known it into a country where your birth station will define you for life. That, to me, is not America.

You made a personal decision with full knowledge, but our government is trying to make decisions with autonomy that will affect those who are not yet born but will one day be expected to suffer for Globalist greed and disrespect.
Pug

Berwyn, IL

#58 Feb 25, 2010
"It donÂ’t take no scientist to tell who gonna have f**** up kids. If the kid calls his grandmomma mommy and his momma Pam, he going to jail."-Chris Rock.
Comedian Rock has some interesting views on rich vs wealth.
Veritatis

Orlando, FL

#59 Feb 25, 2010
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>Illegal immigration is what these threads are about. What color or ethnicity you are isn't the point. The point is HOW illegal immigration impacts on the well-being of Americans who already come in every color under the sun. STOP confusing the inequality illegal immigration creates for Americans in our country of origin with your views on Eugenics. Who gives a sh*t that you are white, brown, red or yellow when it comes to the loss of jobs, benefits, standard of living and opportunity? I don't.
It is white countries and only white countries that are being overwhelmed by illegal immigration. No one is flooding Mexico with non Mestizos and demanding that free health insurance and welfare benefits for those non Mexicans and demanding that they assimilate with them. No One is flooding Africa with non Blacks. No one is flooding Asia with non Aaians. It is happening in all white countries not just the United States. It is not happening in any non white counties.
Take your azz over to the race hate forums where there's a hater for everybody. You can't corral human beings into "sectors" designed to keep them to themselves and from encountering somebody of a different complexion. Evolution will unfold in whatever manner nature has intended. White people are every bit as good as anybody on earth and not a bit better than anybody else. The same holds true of any other skin color of human being. One person at a time without "defining" somebody by race.
I don't hate any race. All races have a right to exist, including the White race. Flooding only white counties with non whites and demanding that they the whites mix with them is an act of genocide.

Article 2 of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide from 1948 defines genocide as any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
We are all Americans with a vested interest in what happens to our country and her people. These forums are about preserving America for the children to come and theirs, and it doesn't matter at all what they look like. It matters that they can have the opportunity to be their bests and live a decent life in this nation founded through the efforts of white men and black slaves assisted by the goodwill of Native Americans who taught them how to raise crops that made the whole damned thing possible. Each group is owed a debt of gratitude by all of us.
Africa for the Africans, Asia for the Asians, and White countries for everyone.

Eliminating a particular race or ethnic group is genocide.
Using assimilation to eliminate a particular race or ethnic group is still genocide.
Truth Angel

Oakland, CA

#60 Feb 25, 2010
Veritatis wrote:
<quoted text>
It is white countries and only white countries that are being overwhelmed by illegal immigration. No one is flooding Mexico with non Mestizos and demanding that free health insurance and welfare benefits for those non Mexicans and demanding that they assimilate with them. No One is flooding Africa with non Blacks. No one is flooding Asia with non Aaians. It is happening in all white countries not just the United States. It is not happening in any non white counties.
<quoted text>
I don't hate any race. All races have a right to exist, including the White race. Flooding only white counties with non whites and demanding that they the whites mix with them is an act of genocide.
Article 2 of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide from 1948 defines genocide as any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
<quoted text>
Africa for the Africans, Asia for the Asians, and White countries for everyone.
Eliminating a particular race or ethnic group is genocide.
Using assimilation to eliminate a particular race or ethnic group is still genocide.
Son, the white countries STILL control 95% of the world's wealth and economic resources. Asians are just beginning to take back control of Asia and Africans still do not control the wealth of Africa. All of the oil reserves, diamond, silver and gold mines are owned and controlled by Europeans or some Arabs. In other words, Africans are SLAVES in their own country.

Nonwhites cannot make a living in their colonized countries so they are encouraged (by Europeans) to come to Europe and provide CHEAP labor which then allows Europeans to live at the high levels that they do. The same for the United States. Slave labor and quasi-slave labor has allowed most white Americans to live at level of wealth they could never have experienced had their forefathers remained in their mother countries.

Add to that the fact that Americans, Canadians and some Europeans move or purchase vacation homes in many cities in Latin America and the Caribbean so that they can live like royalty on only 10k US dollars per year with the citizens of these nations providing the cheap maid and servant labor.

So where is the white genocide? The birthrate is not only falling in Europe it is falling all over the planet and has been for the past 5 centuries when Western Europe took domination of the earth. In many countries nonwhite women are employed as live-in domestic servants and must produce a CERTIFICATE of STERILIZATION before they are hired meaning that as many as 50% of the nonwhite female population in countries like Brazil and Colombia are spayed.

The illegals serve a purpose in the US. They are providing CHEAP labor allowing many contractors and other business people to become independently wealthy before age 40.

It is easy to spout rhetoric but it has been the labor and resources of the nonwhite populations of the earth that allow Europeans to live at a standard unprecedented by any other nation in history except for maybe ancient Egypt. America takes on no liabilities. If the illegals were a liability to the business sector of the US the borders would have long since been enforced.
Simmons

Bolingbrook, IL

#61 Feb 25, 2010
Illegal immigration is a tool that anti-whites (I refuse to call them anti-racists) are using to commit what would be called genocide if were happening to the countries of Africans or Asians. But when I object to me and my family being displaced, and when I object to the behavior of the anti-whites we have sociopaths calling me anaziwhowantstokillsixmillionm orejews. Enough of the bullying.
Mrs_M

Phoenix, AZ

#62 Feb 25, 2010
Poison Ivy wrote:
<quoted text>That doesn't place the two of you in a high tax bracket. Au contraire. It's a very fine and noble career, a difficult job for many, and I appreciate what you do. I recently lost a friend to cancer who was the head nurse in the CCIU at UK. She was much beloved.
That said, you can get a job anywhere, and if things don't work out, you'd undoubtedly be in demand in Mexico. If he is here on a legal visa, then he isn't illegal. So, which is it? Is he illegal or legally here?
I just don't support any IR that affords anybody here illegally a pathway to citizenship. It would cost U.S. taxpayers in the high HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS (some say TRILLIONS) long term and permanently negatively impact wages and benefits. Just as importantly, I sincerely believe it will result in full blown socialism or oligarchy in America and a permanently decline in our standard of living, even post recession. It would encourage others to follow the same path.
I deeply appreciate the opportunities I've had by being born in America, and I genuinely believe it is our duty to preserve those opportunities for our children. As I stated, and I meant, I don't fault you for who you love at all. I just cannot support amnesty for those who stand to transform this nation as we have known it into a country where your birth station will define you for life. That, to me, is not America.
You made a personal decision with full knowledge, but our government is trying to make decisions with autonomy that will affect those who are not yet born but will one day be expected to suffer for Globalist greed and disrespect.
Just recently finished nursing school. I hate it when people assume the worst without having all in the information at hand. I haven't worked in 4 years. I was just saying that we didn't get any sort of government assistance. Things now are getting better for us. Our taxes have been high. I'm done messing with all this now. I've got better things to do with my time. I've already wasted enough time as it is.
Mrs_M

Phoenix, AZ

#63 Feb 25, 2010
Poison Ivy wrote:
<quoted text>That doesn't place the two of you in a high tax bracket. Au contraire. It's a very fine and noble career, a difficult job for many, and I appreciate what you do. I recently lost a friend to cancer who was the head nurse in the CCIU at UK. She was much beloved.
That said, you can get a job anywhere, and if things don't work out, you'd undoubtedly be in demand in Mexico. If he is here on a legal visa, then he isn't illegal. So, which is it? Is he illegal or legally here?
I just don't support any IR that affords anybody here illegally a pathway to citizenship. It would cost U.S. taxpayers in the high HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS (some say TRILLIONS) long term and permanently negatively impact wages and benefits. Just as importantly, I sincerely believe it will result in full blown socialism or oligarchy in America and a permanently decline in our standard of living, even post recession. It would encourage others to follow the same path.
I deeply appreciate the opportunities I've had by being born in America, and I genuinely believe it is our duty to preserve those opportunities for our children. As I stated, and I meant, I don't fault you for who you love at all. I just cannot support amnesty for those who stand to transform this nation as we have known it into a country where your birth station will define you for life. That, to me, is not America.
You made a personal decision with full knowledge, but our government is trying to make decisions with autonomy that will affect those who are not yet born but will one day be expected to suffer for Globalist greed and disrespect.
And my husband isn't from Mexico.

“Rico's Are Everywhere”

Since: Dec 09

Gangland, North America

#64 Feb 25, 2010
Leon wrote:
"...illegal immigrants moved where they could find work in low-skilled fields like construction ..."
Maybe in their third-world countries, construction is considered "low-skilled" field. Thats why when the winds pickup they are crying for aide and help picking their buildings back up.
Pretty funny when some illegal immigrant displaces you at your McDonalds job,,,

Since: Dec 08

Western Chicago suburbs

#66 Feb 25, 2010
"Genocide" is a bit over the top, neighbor, but we ought to have control of our own national borders. As that conflicts with the interests of the corporate and political elites, we're just out of luck.
Simmons wrote:
Illegal immigration is a tool that anti-whites (I refuse to call them anti-racists) are using to commit what would be called genocide if were happening to the countries of Africans or Asians. But when I object to me and my family being displaced, and when I object to the behavior of the anti-whites we have sociopaths calling me anaziwhowantstokillsixmillionm orejews. Enough of the bullying.

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