Fleeing Drug Violence, Mexicans Pour ...

Fleeing Drug Violence, Mexicans Pour Into U.S.

There are 204 comments on the New York Times story from Apr 18, 2010, titled Fleeing Drug Violence, Mexicans Pour Into U.S.. In it, New York Times reports that:

The giant rusty fence of metal bars along the border here, built in recent years to keep illegal immigrants from crossing into the United States, has a new nickname among local residents: Jurassic Park Gate, a nod to the barrier in a 1993 movie that kept dangerous dinosaurs at bay in a theme park.

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Leroy Williams

El Paso, TX

#152 Aug 18, 2013
Publius51 wrote:
There are plenty of areas within mexihole where there is no drug violence, let them flee to those portions of their own country and then demand their government support them.
Many of these immigrants who come over here smoke their little butts off. They end up polluting our air and corrupting our children. Smoking is a vice that I don't care to be around so we need to be more vigilant in rounding up these vice immigrants.
liberty

Rockmart, GA

#167 Aug 21, 2013
noour stupid all you Mexicans want is to get American citizens to side with you and it is not going to happen as far as our armed forces do not see Mexicans signing upt want the benefits but not the fight if they could fight they would have the guts to take back their own country and not sneak into another for everything handed to them we do not owe them anything no home,no food,no medical ,no anything because they are law breakers that are running scared to face their own music trying to turn another country into a craphole just like the one they fled from
Eduardo

Torreón, Mexico

#168 Aug 21, 2013
zanoni wrote:
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Not fight for their own country? You don't know us do you. The red stripe in the US Marine's slacks represents the bloodshed in the battle of Chapultepec. It represents YOUR blood for fighting us!
Not fight for this one? You really don't know us do you?
My brother was in the Marines. I've worked in military bases where I have met Latinos/Hispanics enlisted. Ready to fight for this country.
And you probably don't know, of course you don't, you're stupid, Mexico is a USA ally. Ready to fight for this country. In fact it already did, in World War II! But you're not taught this in your history classes are you?
You see, during WWII both the USA and Germany wanted Mexico on their side. Mexico was neutral. Then Germany sunk a couple of Mexican oil tankers heading to the USA. So Mexico got into the war in the USAs side. Did you know this? Of course not. You're stupid.
Mexico is not a USA ally, we are a business and security partner at best, but we can't bring ourselves to fight for something we don't believe in just for the sake of having a good relationship with USA. Mexico broke its mutual defense treaty with USA as a response to America's War On Terror.

There was no way Mexico could have joined the Axis on the war because Mexico's government was anti-fascist. We condemned Germany's invasion of Austria and Italy's invasion of Ethiopia but we had previously been reduced ourselves to a pariah nation by the Allies as punishment for the oil expropriation so we didn't have any diplomatic power to make a difference. We also clashed against the Axis in the Spanish Civil War, giving supplies and refuge to the Republican forces. So there is now way we could have backed Germany in WWII, even many countries that sympathized with the Axis preferred to stay neutral because they thought the Axis war was a lost cause, and as you can see we weren't in friendly terms with them anyway.
liberty

Rockmart, GA

#177 Aug 21, 2013
does it really matter what mexico did which was not much but they cannot save their own now they cannot do anything but flee because they do not have the guts and no not any u.s. citizen is stupid the illegals are the stupid ones they get a few that knows enough English to get on computer and try to defend them I mean really if they are so smart fix your own country and depend on it to support your families if you guys are so smart why do you not have a system like the u.s. and your country is not a craphole
DC Dave

El Monte, CA

#181 Aug 21, 2013
Bunch of pin heads! Without drug and crude oil revenues, the Mexican economy would collapse. And who's the biggest consumers of drugs and crude oil - American yuppie crackheads.
DC Dave

El Monte, CA

#193 Aug 21, 2013
zanoni wrote:
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That's how little you know about Mexico. Drugs and oil reserves. Really? Who's the pin-head?
Don't cry you moron, I forgot to mention all the monies that mexicant illegals send back home to their Mexican families. About Mexico, that accounts for about 8% of their revenues. Your apology is accepted ya crying bitch.

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#194 Aug 21, 2013
zanoni wrote:
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You moron, are you referring to me? I AM a citizen!
I also have first, second, and third generation American citizens in my family.
You stupid free-loader. You just want all the freebie government benefits for yourself.
I say we eliminate all social benefits! Now what? What do you get moron?
quote, "just want all the freebie government benefits for yourself."

hey. isn't that the way it should be? only citizens should be eligible for the freebie government benefits. right?

if it is american money, it should only be for americans.
APPLAUSEPLEASE

Albuquerque, NM

#195 Aug 21, 2013
Yep most of them are Cartel or former cartel members looking for a better life - drug dealers don't knock off one another like they do down in
good old Mexico!

“Club Fed or Camp Cupcake?”

Since: Oct 10

White-Collar Minimum-Security

#197 Aug 21, 2013
Bottom line on curb and street repair is bad news for homeowners
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-0814-...
Imagine this.

You've paid your taxes for decades, but your crumbling street hasn't been repaved since the Eisenhower administration. So you ask City Hall to step up, and the response goes something like this:

Sure, we'll fix the street. But only if, first, you pay several thousand dollars out of your own pocket to fix the curbs.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#203 Aug 22, 2013
zanoni wrote:
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You're asking for an out right dictatorship. You want to make law enforcement out of everyone. You're reminiscing the old Soviet Union you stupid fuck. You're not American!
Really, study a little bit what the old Soviet Union was like. That's what you're asking for. You're a stupid coward!
The real reason you so called 'Americans' want to get rid of illegal immigrants is because you want the public benefits for yourselves. You know hat public benefits are limited, and the fewer beneficiaries there are, the more benefits for the remainders.
You're a socialist at heart. You really don't belong in America, North nor South!
Get rid of theez Mex'cans, I want it all for myself!!!
Haven't you noticed, we're just about there right now. What rights do we have left? What we need is to streamline this ginormous government...get rid of all the overlapping programs and the overpaid, unproductive, inept czars.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#204 Aug 22, 2013
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>Haven't you noticed, we're just about there right now. What rights do we have left? What we need is to streamline this ginormous government...get rid of all the overlapping programs and the overpaid, unproductive, inept czars.
Sen. Coburn puts out a list yearly of overlapping programs. The info is available to citizen and CONgress critter alike. We should be demanding the waste be cut after all it is our money.
liberty

Rockmart, GA

#205 Aug 22, 2013
hey zanoni I do not receive any government freebies or never have I am a legal American citizen not having to fear being deporated I am very well educated and have a very good job for all you know it could be a local,state ,or government job also you make it sound likei am female that might be or not be you know I am just like any other tax paying citizen I am tird of all the freeloading illegals they want better lifethey need to make it for themselves by being legal and staying off government assistance an yes the taxpayers want more of wha they earn for themselves thet earned it so why should it be given to those who choose to do nothing wth ther life everone is born with the same opportunities in life and everyone is given the same chance to make their life better the illegals hav the same chance to do right to they have no right to receive anything or demand anything from the u.s. they shoud be making their demands to their own country trying to fix it not invade another to support their families

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#206 Aug 22, 2013
zanoni wrote:
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If that's the case, it should be for anyone paying into the system. And, believe it or not, illegals do pay into it.
But more importantly, it's a "social" system, for the benefit of "all" society. You're viewing it as an investment. Where only those who invest get the dividends. That's not what it is. Private pensions are for that. Social systems are for society, regardless of who pays into it. Now if you don't like a social system simply say you don't want a social system. Eliminate the Social Security Administration. Then you can retire only on your own personal savings. I assure you, many, Many, MANY White and Black citizens will be left on the streets. Just say that's what you want.
I don't want to see anyone out on the streets. So I don't mind paying a little of my pay check to keep someone else's elderly parent in a home.
obviously, you are brain dead. you don't even know what the difference between legal and illegal is anymore.

get off the drugs.
Girl With HairyArms

Childress, TX

#207 Aug 22, 2013
Roger_Wilco wrote:
It is way past time for our elected representatives to start representing American Citizens!
Illegal aliens are NOT American Citizens! They are Illegal Aliens! They are uninvited invaders! They shouldn't be ignored or rewarded! They should be apprehended and deported! When they show up at a hospital emergency room they should be apprehended and deported! When they show up at a public school to enroll their rodents they should be apprehended and deported! When they show up at the social security office they should be apprehended and deported! When they show up at the department for children and families they should be apprehended and deported! When the police show up at their home responding to domestic violence they should be apprehended and deported! When they show up at the U.S. Post Office to purchase money orders to send back home they should be apprehended and deported!
Every government agency, be it local, state or federal, has an obligation to the citizens of the United States to ensure that not one penny of taxed revenue is handed to a Illegal Alien! They have a legal and binding obligation to report crime.
If you ask public employees like teachers, administrators, clerks and receptionists why they don't call the law on Illegal Aliens, they will tell us that they are not law enforcement. But, if you or I walked into a government building and lit up a cigarette, those same government employees would order you and I to put it out. If you asked them why they would tell you that it is illegal to smoke inside a government building. If we refuse to extinguish the cigarette, those same government employees who turn a blind eye to ILLEGAL ALIENS would dial 911 on you or me. We would be physically removed from the premises and fined, possibly jailed.
It is time we start treating Illegal Aliens as badly as we treat American Citizens!
Say NO to Amnesty! Say NO to Immigration Reform!

so true

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#213 Sep 2, 2013
zanoni wrote:
All of you people who can't live with mud-colored people, start making your plans to leave the USA.
You'll either learn to assimilate, or you'll be the next wave of immigrants...immigrating out of here!
Why should we assimilate, we are already a part of the melting pot, because our ancestors melted long ago???? Why should we "emigrate"? Our ancestors helped build this country, and we won't allow the current interlopers to undo all the work that our ancestors did. And by the way, they stood on their own two feet, without the taxpayers having to prop them up at every turn.
Brenda besson

United States

#217 Sep 4, 2013
zanoni wrote:
All of you people who can't live with mud-colored people, start making your plans to leave the USA.
You'll either learn to assimilate, or you'll be the next wave of immigrants...immigrating out of here!
yes we are packing now lmao.we are just waiting to see if the mud colored people will be allowed to stay (not)

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#226 Sep 5, 2013
zanoni wrote:
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Your first sentence sounds more like a statement, but you end it with question marks. Are questioning your own judgement?
OK, I got it, it's a coumpound sentence (but too much is going on in there.)
Yes your ancestors helped to build this country. But it was for a higher purpose than simply the sake of creating one. And the reality is that I really don't believe that most modern (so called) Americans have any Idea what that higher purpose is.
But let me continue. Now about interlopers. When the very first pilgrims arrived here they were basically welcomed by the natives. The pilgrims were foreigners but were not told "get back on your ship and sail back."
Over the course of a couple of hundred years many, Many, MANY more of your ancestors came to these shores. There was no conflict with the natives until there were so many of you here that you began to bully everyone else out. Beginning with the natives, you killed them, put the remainder into reservations, and took the land. Then you slowy began to exclude everyone else. So, who's the interloper? If you didn't figure it out, the real interloper is YOU and your kind!
Actually, most of "my kind" were farmers, although I have found that some were tailors and musicians. I have traced the first sign of them in this country to be before the Civil War. They worked, they quietly raised their families, they sent their sons to wars and they paid their dues. They were thrilled to be here, and taught their children to love and respect this country. They were not interlopers, they were true immigrants. There, I did figure it out.
Mexicanos Cobardes

Tewksbury, MA

#228 Sep 7, 2013
Por que no se ponen a pelear contra los que inician la violencia en Mexico? Mejore una mujer llamada Diana se esta desquitando con los camioneros cabrones que se portan mal con las pasajeras. Los que corren a EUA son cobardes. Por que no se juntan y acaban con la violencia y la corrupcion? Los unicos que pueden correrle a la violencia son los que tienen dinero. Por lo mientras dejan a sus paisanos pobres a pelear contra el narco y la policia. Vienen a EUA y quieren viver igual como vivian en Mexico. Muchos tinenen enlaces con negocios ilicitos pero vienen corriendo por protexion aqui. Por que no suben en armas y se defienden? Que no tienen huevos o que? Si uno deja que otros cabrones se apoderen de su pais entonces hay que defender cuando se pone cabron. Que bola de cobardes. No merecen pisar la gran tierra que es EUA. Aqui, si se nos pone cabron, nos defendemos y no vamos a dejar que ningun cabron (narco, policia o politico) se entremeta en nuestra buen manera de vivir. Que vivan para siempre estos grandes Estados Unidos de America. El hogar de los valientes y libres pero porque nos cuesta diariamente.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#229 Sep 8, 2013
Mexicanos Cobardes wrote:
Por que no se ponen a pelear contra los que inician la violencia en Mexico? Mejore una mujer llamada Diana se esta desquitando con los camioneros cabrones que se portan mal con las pasajeras. Los que corren a EUA son cobardes. Por que no se juntan y acaban con la violencia y la corrupcion? Los unicos que pueden correrle a la violencia son los que tienen dinero. Por lo mientras dejan a sus paisanos pobres a pelear contra el narco y la policia. Vienen a EUA y quieren viver igual como vivian en Mexico. Muchos tinenen enlaces con negocios ilicitos pero vienen corriendo por protexion aqui. Por que no suben en armas y se defienden? Que no tienen huevos o que? Si uno deja que otros cabrones se apoderen de su pais entonces hay que defender cuando se pone cabron. Que bola de cobardes. No merecen pisar la gran tierra que es EUA. Aqui, si se nos pone cabron, nos defendemos y no vamos a dejar que ningun cabron (narco, policia o politico) se entremeta en nuestra buen manera de vivir. Que vivan para siempre estos grandes Estados Unidos de America. El hogar de los valientes y libres pero porque nos cuesta diariamente.
It costs Americans far more.
Hilliton

Pittsburgh, PA

#230 Sep 8, 2013
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