For the Future of Immigration Reform,...

For the Future of Immigration Reform, Look to 1986

There are 80 comments on the National Journal story from May 27, 2013, titled For the Future of Immigration Reform, Look to 1986. In it, National Journal reports that:

This committee is going down the same road that we did in 1986. I was there. I lived it," said Sen.

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Since: Aug 11

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#1 May 27, 2013
the way the dems want is liken to 86 is dems want rewards first then when it comes to any form of enforcement fight against it. we have already seen this.

and like clock work the dems are at it again,they want no part of securing the border first then enforcement and then after showing good faith which they lost all trust by all their lies from 86 talk about greencards of anything else.

thing is they know after all these things are done first their voter pool will drop do to more new dems would not be able to flood is as they have from first word of shamnesty.

dems are against all things other than rewards for illegal aliens,too bad we cannot lock them up for fruading the citizens.
In another State

Milwaukee, WI

#2 May 27, 2013
We do not need any Immigration Reform. We have many issues that need to be addressed before we even consider this monstrosity. The cost alone will completely destroy our fragile economy.
jon

Redwood City, CA

#3 May 27, 2013
We need immigration reform the USA need it.

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#4 May 27, 2013
We need immigration enforcement. That will not come as long as we have a democrat as President.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

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#5 May 28, 2013
That fiasco should be a model for us not to revisit this joke of legislation. The border was never secured, and look at the type of uneducated, unskilled folks who keep streaming in. Demanding, whining and thieving seems to be all they know. Dependency is becoming their main reason for being, not finding work that they try to have us believe.

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#8 May 28, 2013
1965 Immigration act, Quote: Among those who more accurately foresaw the future effects of the change in immigration law was a certain Myra C. Hacker, Vice President of the New Jersey Coalition, who testified at a Senate immigration subcommittee hearing:

"In light of our 5 percent unemployment rate, our worries over the so called population explosion, and our menacingly mounting welfare costs, are we prepared to embrace so great a horde of the world's unfortunates? At the very least, the hidden mathematics of the bill should be made clear to the public so that they may tell their Congressmen how they feel about providing jobs, schools, homes, security against want, citizen education, and a brotherly welcome ... for an indeterminately enormous number of aliens from underprivileged lands."

"We should remember that people accustomed to such marginal existence in their own land will tend to live fully here, to hoard our bounteous minimum wages and our humanitarian welfare handouts ... lower our wage and living standards, disrupt our cultural patterns ..."

"Whatever may be our benevolent intent toward many people,[the bill] fails to give due consideration to the economic needs, the cultural traditions, and the public sentiment of the citizens of the United States." (U.S. Senate, Subcommittee on Immigration and Naturalization of the Committee on the Judiciary, Washington, D.C., Feb. 10, 1965. pp. 681-687.)
spud

Wilkes Barre, PA

#10 May 28, 2013
If we could only reign in the neocon idiots, there would be no chance of passing this treasonous bill.

Since: Jan 13

Monroe Township, NJ

#11 May 28, 2013
Cricket 23 : Stop living in the past.
Dee Dee Dee

Coopersburg, PA

#12 May 28, 2013
Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.
ronnie

Salt Lake City, UT

#13 May 28, 2013
Ronald Reagan stated later in his life the worst mistake of his Presidency was the 86 shamnesty, and why California has been ruined.
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#14 May 28, 2013
ronnie wrote:
Ronald Reagan stated later in his life the worst mistake of his Presidency was the 86 shamnesty, and why California has been ruined.
Reagan never said that.

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#15 May 28, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
Reagan never said that.
How do you know?
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#16 May 28, 2013
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>How do you know?
Nobody can find any account of Reagan saying this. The closest anyone can come is an article in Conservative Heritage Times in which Ed Meese claims Reagan said this.

This contradicts what Michael Reagan claims his father said about the topic.

http://www.vdare.com/posts/ed-meese-says-reag...

By the way, Ed Meese is probably not the best person to relay on when it comes to accuracy. A few months ago when there was talk of Obama issuing an executive order Meese was all over TV saying that if Obama went ahead with this “It would not be legal. It would not be constitutional” and would be grounds for impeachment.

Of course Meese forgot to mention that Reagan issued 382 executive orders while he was Attorney General.
Fed Up Vet

Reston, VA

#17 May 28, 2013
It’s taken 27 years to finally admit that amnesty with “enforcement” didn’t work. So how will our brain dead politicians fix our national disgrace? Why of course they will repeat the same thing which produced our current dilemma, i.e. pass another amnesty with more promises of enforcement to “solve” the problem. Now that is progress.

Our children deserve better, but votes are more important than national security for our elected officials.
ronnie

Salt Lake City, UT

#18 May 28, 2013
Today on c-span the guest talked about securing this Country's sovereignty before any talk of amnesty. And he reiterated the Reagan sentiment's that 86 choices were a big mistake and none of the laws were enforced from the beginning. But Reagan deregulated all kinds of stuff and if you lived through the Saving and Loans era, that kind of deregulation derailed the market's and led to the 08 Wall Street crash. Amnesty today is no different. Enforcing our laws will fade and we'll be right back where we started from.
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#19 May 28, 2013
Fed Up Vet wrote:
It’s taken 27 years to finally admit that amnesty with “enforcement” didn’t work. So how will our brain dead politicians fix our national disgrace? Why of course they will repeat the same thing which produced our current dilemma, i.e. pass another amnesty with more promises of enforcement to “solve” the problem. Now that is progress.
Our children deserve better, but votes are more important than national security for our elected officials.
Don't worry. Nobody has proposed any type or amnesty.

Since: Jan 13

Monroe Township, NJ

#21 May 28, 2013
Fed Up Vet wrote:
It’s taken 27 years to finally admit that amnesty with “enforcement” didn’t work. So how will our brain dead politicians fix our national disgrace? Why of course they will repeat the same thing which produced our current dilemma, i.e. pass another amnesty with more promises of enforcement to “solve” the problem. Now that is progress.
Our children deserve better, but votes are more important than national security for our elected officials.
The situation is so different comparing to 1986 so comparing the results of those 2 bills is really ridiculous. Now there is a way better technology to enforce the law, the border is much secure ( even though there is more work to do ) and Mexico and South America are not so down as they used to be. So we are talking about less people wanting to come here, a more secure border and E-Verify which is actually the strongest part of this bill. To compare this to the situation in 1986 is just ridiculous and funny.
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#22 May 28, 2013
mom2five wrote:
<quoted text>True!
You have been reported for your vile editing job.

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#23 May 28, 2013
Fed Up Vet wrote:
It’s taken 27 years to finally admit that amnesty with “enforcement” didn’t work. So how will our brain dead politicians fix our national disgrace? Why of course they will repeat the same thing which produced our current dilemma, i.e. pass another amnesty with more promises of enforcement to “solve” the problem. Now that is progress.
Our children deserve better, but votes are more important than national security for our elected officials.
there has never been full enforcement otherwise there would not be a single illegal aliens here. some of those laws would have stopping all from hiring them even churches were to be charged if helping illegal aliens. it sure would be nice to see some criminal law breaking fake pastors jailed for helping illegal aliens as well as a bunch who hire them.
Mexican pride

Lodi, CA

#24 May 28, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
Reagan never said that.
she's pulling info out her a$$!!!

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